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Most people didn't get into WoW until post Burning Crusade where it was easier to get a mount.
Early WoW did not sell mounts in cash shop or offered them in premium packages. Everybody was on the equal terms, which is not the case in ESO.
I'm so glad i didn't spend my money on this game. It doesn't matter whether you like Angry Joe or not, he speaks the truth: this game has serious issues, and many of them are not technical, which would have been understandable, even.
To me it looks 5 out of 10 is very generous for this game. Thank god they tried to break out from the WoW mold, tho.
Oh no .... lesser known guy on the internet that makes game review video rants doesn't like the online game as much as I do?!
Well crap, then I'll have to stop playing and liking this game so much now....
Oh wait. I don't really care. I think I'll keep playing and loving it.
Just wish they could fix the lag issues...
Who really cares? It's one guys opinion and, if your enjoying the game, it shouldn't affect you. Are people today really such sheep that they cant make their own opinion, or that they change their mind based on some 'celeb' review.
Does the game have problems, yes. Does it also have potential? In my opinion, yes. Personally I think AJ comes across as a stereotypical 'ADD console gamer', and the majority of his viewers are likely to have the same views and interests in games as he do, so how many of them would buy, and enjoy, the game anyway?
First of all..
Hes exagerating everything, but thats what he does,,Everything he sais is just blown up in proportion.
example. You can get that 17k for a horse long Before you are 20 just by Selling looted stuff
Second of all..
Hes has all these addons, show xp, show map, etc etc..What that tells me of him is that hes far to much in a hurry to just level than actually enjoying the game for what it is..Yet he KEEPS going on and on about immersion and the likes, It's all there if you just slow down, and I honestly havent seen a more immersive MMO than this Before, It's totally great in this department.
It's the stressed guys that plays this game that has the most trouble with it, because the faster you run around the less immersed you will be.
example. Sharing quests is NOT a good idea, the other player wont know what he is doing, and you will ending up just clicking trough dialogues and choosing diffrent dialogues . then you will end up in diffrent phases of the quest.
When did it become a standard MMO thing to just give people mounts extremely early and extremely cheap? The majority of games require you to meet certain minimum level requirements to even be able to ride a mount period, on top of generally having a pretty high cost which normally isnt met through regular leveling play and you need to do some (several hours) of extra farming for gold or picking up some crafts and selling your wares to cover the extra gold needed.
Yes, actual gold drops are very low, but what do you think you get from selling off all the gear you pick up along the way or breaking items down and selling the materials? Gold drops are not meant to be a huge source of income, otherwise it would just inflate things even further and make actual crafting more meaningless.
http://www.ign.com/videos/2014/04/21/the-elder-scrolls-online-review
here's another opinion - 7.8
To add variety to the "Reviews & Impressions" sub-forum. I encourage you to post your own review if you haven't already.
By paying extra money after paying a box and sub?
You don't get it. My issue isn't even the price of mount or how fast you can get it. It's the fact that the mounts cost quite abit of money but you can bypass it by spendign rl cash.
I don't care about othes getting their horses, i don't care if it takes some time to get mine. I'ts the fact that Zeni is milking it's players, in their face. If the horse wasn't in the cash shop,then it'd just be a annoying thing, but no.
Funnier is that, as expected, the fans defend this practice. First, subs are suppose to keep cash shops and these kinds of moves out so everyone is at the same levels. Now, it's ok because you don't need it and it's just convinience.
If it was Wildstar pulling this off, everyone would lose their sh** over it. But because it's the game they like, it's fine. And then people complain about "cash shops everywhere".
Yes, but I wanted the OP to say it, because the OP posted this thread with the intention of creating a flame war revolving around the value of Joe's review. Notice how the OP offers nothing beyond, "look at this negative review!"
Dude hasn't posted in 2 years, and his first post in 2 years is, "5/10 for ESO". And that's all he can say?
I've said it before and I'll say it again, I don't care if people have negative or positive opinions about something that I like or dislike. But if you're going to post something, you have to offer something to discuss otherwise you're clearly trolling.
Want to post Joe's review? Great. What about his review did you agree/disagree with? Or are you just happy that it was a low score regardless of what was said in the review?
I would agree with this, but bosses who drop only 2 gold and nothing more, and horses being sold in an item shop in a game with a sub fee is ridiculous.
if this mmo is a 5/10 i would like to see what current mmo is an 8 or above. because i don't think one exists.
And now you've stooped to discrediting the OP. He wasn't inflammatory at all. He posted Angry Joe's review and showed the score he gave.
Lol who cares about op? It could've been me, If i followed the guy, or anyone else for that matter. Isn't posting links of game reviews a normal thing in forums?
Don't hate the messenger...
One that does an obvious tongue job to the game by neglecting the dupes to a large degree and merely mentions gamebreaking bugs. Nice.
Yes, that is what he did. Re-read your own statement until you realize that he didn't initiate any discussion and instead only presented a link. So there's not really anything to discredit is there as the OP did exactly what you said he did.
So instead of anything in this thread resembling a discussion about ESO, it's only about the merit of the reviewer and the OP's intent. If he had said something, at least then we could debate it, but he didn't, so we can't. So the purpose of this thread is?
/smh
It was posted with the intent of discussing Angry Joe's review...
I am pretty sure a lot of none gamer's would define anyone living the gamer's dream as being a loser :P
GW2 gets 10/10
ESO gets 5/10
Ive played both, and I enjoyed the leveling in both games. However the game after you reach cap (or lets say VR1 for ESO) is quite different. In GW2 u had a cluster fuck of zerg and unstructured dungeon gameplay. In ESO you at leats have trinity and less Zerg.
I wont comment on PvP, as I havent done that much, but personally I see more future in ESO than I did in Gw2, which quickly grew stale once you hit lvl 80.
IMO ESO should be higher around 8/10, and GW2 should be lower also around 8/10.
So then just, yo know, dont buy it. Nobody is forcing anyone to spend real $ on it. It is optional. Kind of a pointless option as well considering very few people would actually buy just the horse when the 17k to buy one is actually fairly easy to get if you manage your money well and know what to sell. Hell I've probably blown through an average of 5-10k a day just in crafting mats, backpack / bank upgrades, feeding my horses, upgrading my gear, etc for all of my characters the highest of which is only 31 now. 17k is practically nothing after your first few days.