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ZeniMax's official stance is that the dupe only took place yesterday, the 17'th.

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  • onlinenow25onlinenow25 San Diego, CAPosts: 275Member
    Originally posted by jircris
    This bug has been around since beta sadly, the funny thing is they are starting to ban those who abused it. so if you were dumb enough to abuse it then expect a ban msg when you log on one of these days. My trading guild lost 60 members for abuse of this bug. I knew about it but being a long time mmo player i knew better then to abuse something such as this, or any explote in mmos...it never really pays off.

    Those people will not be banned for long.  Its before the 30 day period and if any of them are EU they can get a refund.  Hell even if they are in the US they can just have their bank do a charge back for not providing 30 days of service.

     

    When something is this easy to exploit, its pretty much impossible for them to do a mass banning w/out losing a large portion of their player base.  It sucks, but its their own fault for not fixing an exploit that is actually easily replicated on accident.

  • DistopiaDistopia Baltimore, MDPosts: 16,905Member Uncommon
    Originally posted by onlinenow25
     

    I feel its better to assume this person is not actually a paying customer, but a paid worker to try and discredit forum posts like this.

     

    Its just another way to try and stifle negative facts/opinion/comments to try and get those on the fence of any situation to side with the game company then actually look at the situation objectively. 

    Look there's no getting around "the facts" in this case, the fact is there's a dupe, and people are questioning what's being done about it. Even the poster you're talking about said nothing about this not happening, it's about the time frame of it happening, there are no real facts; at least not what I'd consider facts, in regard to that. A lot of "he said, she said" yet no real concrete proof of that. I guess I must be paid to say this as well, because I certainly am not affected by something that happens in a game I do not own.

    Some of us actually care about the facts, especially us fence sitters...to put it plainly, there's no reason to look at this objectively more than that. That's how one makes informed decisions on whether they should bother with a game or not. Posts like this are just muddying the waters at this point. IF you have facts present them, I'd love to see them.

    I'd love to know if this was actually around since beta.  I"ve seen nothing yet that says it was or wasn't. Just a bunch of conjecture, the typical fanboi V hater dialogue and a whole bunch of questions/theories. Not to mention two questionable sources.. An edited ( multiple times) player review, and a screen capped forum post.  You know what they say about believing everything you see on the internet? Apply that here..

     

    For every minute you are angry , you lose 60 seconds of happiness."-Emerson

    It is a sign of a defeated man, to attack at ones character in the face of logic and reason- Me

  • ElRenmazuoElRenmazuo Alexandria, VAPosts: 4,546Member Uncommon
    Havent experienced one bug yet, too busy having fun
  • HorrorScopeHorrorScope Norcal, CAPosts: 612Member
    Like real life, all the rich people aren't truly legit, many exploited their way their. A big reason to jump into a MMO early is to find the weak spots and gain power and wealth before they are found and nerfed.
  • skeaserskeaser Wichita Falls, TXPosts: 3,847Member Uncommon

    /shrug

    Don't see how it impacts me. Whatever, back to having fun exploring!

  • ZebladeZeblade Colorado Springs, COPosts: 926Member

    Like said above..you see people for what they really are. You see some that hide there head in the sand and don't want to get involved. Have some that just go crazy lol so to speak and then some that just plain out lie.

    Me..I'm not like most. I look at life as..what if it was me what would I want..thats what I do. Game or real life I may not like it but I will help. If it was my game I would want players to help to report not to cheat. Most do..  You say sure you would here but in game or our in real life you wont.

    Case in point took two kids to mall. The show asked just before this if you saw two kids lost in a mall would you help? DUH ALL said yes. So 616 people walked past the two little girls and never helped. Real life yet same in game. You dont care.

  • flizzerflizzer Manchester, NHPosts: 1,550Member Uncommon
    Originally posted by Bigdavo

    This is nothing compared to the infamous Neverwinter Online's 'Caturday'.

    Anyone else who was playing at the time will know what I'm talking about. The funny thing was, mass hysteria for a day, literally 2 days later it was like it never happened, I'm talking about massive exploit to gain cash shop currency.

    Funny thing was, it was reported months in advance.

     

    And that was when I left the game. Gamers are very forgiving for their favorite games. If I was playing ESO and had made a long term committment via subbing I would be trying to get a refund.  It is time enough companies stopped pulling this crap. I expect  ESO fans will simply suck it up and subscribe for another month however.  

  • shawkandaweshawkandawe cali, CAPosts: 4Member

    sSome idiot does an Amazon review and we are supposed to take his word as gospel? Please there's no hireling dupe. 

    And he edited his review a lot. Lists the edits on the bottom. He is just a hater.

  • BigdaddyxBigdaddyx California, WAPosts: 1,985Member Uncommon
    Originally posted by ElRenmazuo
    Havent experienced one bug yet, too busy having fun

    Not even a single bug? i guess some people have all the luck.

    I wonder how you escaped the slow loading screens when the entire mega server was having this issue along with delay in chats, mails etc.

     

  • STYNKFYSTSTYNKFYST Sacramento, CAPosts: 290Member
    Originally posted by Bigdaddyx
    Originally posted by ElRenmazuo
    Havent experienced one bug yet, too busy having fun

    Not even a single bug? i guess some people have all the luck.

    I wonder how you escaped the slow loading screens when the entire mega server was having this issue along with delay in chats, mails etc.

     

    Look BigDuddy posted against ESO again...what a shock.

  • BigdaddyxBigdaddyx California, WAPosts: 1,985Member Uncommon
    Originally posted by STYNKFYST
    Originally posted by Bigdaddyx
    Originally posted by ElRenmazuo
    Havent experienced one bug yet, too busy having fun

    Not even a single bug? i guess some people have all the luck.

    I wonder how you escaped the slow loading screens when the entire mega server was having this issue along with delay in chats, mails etc.

     

    Look BigDuddy posted against ESO again...what a shock.

    Nothing is 'against' ESO in my post just stating facts. When entire server was having long loading screens and delays in chats; mails etc it is hard to take statements like 'haven't experienced one bug yet'. That is just a white lie.

  • shawkandaweshawkandawe cali, CAPosts: 4Member

    To all the haters: ZM already knows about this dupe and are working on fixing it.

    Source: http://www.reddit.com/r/elderscrollsonline/comments/23grhh/there_is_another_new_dupe/

    Stop making mountains out of molehills. It's not like this is an MMO where money actually matters. Oh big whoop I can buy some siege gear and consumables. Who cares?

     

     

  • mrgrimrprmrgrimrpr Colorado Springs, COPosts: 87Member
    Originally posted by STYNKFYST
    Originally posted by Bigdaddyx
    Originally posted by ElRenmazuo
    Havent experienced one bug yet, too busy having fun

    Not even a single bug? i guess some people have all the luck.

    I wonder how you escaped the slow loading screens when the entire mega server was having this issue along with delay in chats, mails etc.

     

    Look BigDuddy posted against ESO again...what a shock.

    Don't worry. He's played almost 200 hours of ESO, but wants to complain about everything.

     

    Nothing to see here.

  • safire312safire312 Kosice, ALPosts: 25Member
    Originally posted by shawkandawe

    Stop making mountains out of molehills. It's not like this is an MMO where money actually matters. Oh big whoop I can buy some siege gear and consumables. Who cares?

     

     

    For now, but you never know whats going to be in the future, they can buy better endgame enchants,items,upgrades, maybe mounts, houses, and its very very big disadvantage, just think about you playing 10h/per day farming 100k golds for some fancyschmancy mount, because you want to show that you are rich that you can afford this expensive mount, and some d*ck just bugged 50milion golds in 30minutes. 

     

  • BigdaddyxBigdaddyx California, WAPosts: 1,985Member Uncommon
    Originally posted by mrgrimrpr
    Originally posted by STYNKFYST
    Originally posted by Bigdaddyx
    Originally posted by ElRenmazuo
    Havent experienced one bug yet, too busy having fun

    Not even a single bug? i guess some people have all the luck.

    I wonder how you escaped the slow loading screens when the entire mega server was having this issue along with delay in chats, mails etc.

     

    Look BigDuddy posted against ESO again...what a shock.

    Don't worry. He's played almost 200 hours of ESO, but wants to complain about everything.

     

    Nothing to see here.

    Dude..how many alt accounts do you have on these forums? wow!!

    And yes i do like to discuss the bugs and other issues about the game. If it bothers you i suggest stop visiting the forums maybe. That is a lot better option than back and forth flaming.

  • BadOrbBadOrb ManchesterPosts: 791Member Uncommon
    Originally posted by skeaser

    /shrug

    Don't see how it impacts me. Whatever, back to having fun exploring!

    Well it might affect the population , you see back in 2007 after Phantasy Star Universe had been out about 3 months. There was a duping exploit , people where duping items that where from the separate offline game and those items where not in the online game. So ( this was the PC / PS2 version ) either Sega banned a bunch of people and / or they left. The population went down by   2 / 3 , a lot and it never recovered , ever.

    At least it lasted 3 months , ESO had a duping bug this early on in it's life is a worry.

    So don't be too heisty with your I don't see how it affects me.

    Cheers,

    BadOrb.

    PSO 4 years , EQOA 4 months , PSU 7 years , SWTOR launch ongoing , PSO2 SEA launch ongoing , Destiny 360 launch ongoing.
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  • FrodoFraginsFrodoFragins Manchester, NHPosts: 2,926Member Uncommon
    Originally posted by Bigdaddyx
    Originally posted by STYNKFYST
    Originally posted by Bigdaddyx
    Originally posted by ElRenmazuo
    Havent experienced one bug yet, too busy having fun

    Not even a single bug? i guess some people have all the luck.

    I wonder how you escaped the slow loading screens when the entire mega server was having this issue along with delay in chats, mails etc.

     

    Look BigDuddy posted against ESO again...what a shock.

    Nothing is 'against' ESO in my post just stating facts. When entire server was having long loading screens and delays in chats; mails etc it is hard to take statements like 'haven't experienced one bug yet'. That is just a white lie.

    long loads aren't 'bugs' - you do know what a 'bug' is right?

     

    As far as this thread goes.  It's just another company releasing a game too early and trying to spin things in their favor.

  • mrgrimrprmrgrimrpr Colorado Springs, COPosts: 87Member
    Originally posted by Bigdaddyx
    Originally posted by mrgrimrpr
    Originally posted by STYNKFYST
    Originally posted by Bigdaddyx
    Originally posted by ElRenmazuo
    Havent experienced one bug yet, too busy having fun

    Not even a single bug? i guess some people have all the luck.

    I wonder how you escaped the slow loading screens when the entire mega server was having this issue along with delay in chats, mails etc.

     

    Look BigDuddy posted against ESO again...what a shock.

    Don't worry. He's played almost 200 hours of ESO, but wants to complain about everything.

     

    Nothing to see here.

    Dude..how many alt accounts do you have on these forums? wow!!

    And yes i do like to discuss the bugs and other issues about the game. If it bothers you i suggest stop visiting the forums maybe. That is a lot better option than back and forth flaming.

    Classic. I'm perfectly fine with you voicing your opinion on the game, but anyone can see your posting history. Awful amount of negativity for someone who has played a game almost 9 hours a day since release.

    So, instead of accusing me of having multiple forum accounts, perhaps you can get the stick out of your ass and perhaps give the people your unbiased opinion (if you are capable of that, probably not).

    There is no flaming, just discussion, and if you are uncomfortable doing that, you probably should stop visiting the forums maybe.

  • BigdaddyxBigdaddyx California, WAPosts: 1,985Member Uncommon
    Originally posted by mrgrimrpr
    Originally posted by Bigdaddyx
    Originally posted by mrgrimrpr
    Originally posted by STYNKFYST
    Originally posted by Bigdaddyx
    Originally posted by ElRenmazuo
    Havent experienced one bug yet, too busy having fun

    Not even a single bug? i guess some people have all the luck.

    I wonder how you escaped the slow loading screens when the entire mega server was having this issue along with delay in chats, mails etc.

     

    Look BigDuddy posted against ESO again...what a shock.

    Don't worry. He's played almost 200 hours of ESO, but wants to complain about everything.

     

    Nothing to see here.

    Dude..how many alt accounts do you have on these forums? wow!!

    And yes i do like to discuss the bugs and other issues about the game. If it bothers you i suggest stop visiting the forums maybe. That is a lot better option than back and forth flaming.

    Classic. I'm perfectly fine with you voicing your opinion on the game, but anyone can see your posting history. Awful amount of negativity for someone who has played a game almost 9 hours a day since release.

    So, instead of accusing me of having multiple forum accounts, perhaps you can get the stick out of your ass and perhaps give the people your unbiased opinion (if you are capable of that, probably not).

    There is no flaming, just discussion, and if you are uncomfortable doing that, you probably should stop visiting the forums maybe.

    Apparently you are not because you have been trying to flame me on multiple accounts for several days now.

    Listen, you are not fooling me allright? and i know for sure soon you will get this account banned too. I talk about games and you talk about me. See the difference? its really unhealthy if you ask me. I don't know why my crticism of game bothers you that much that you have to take it so personally and follow me around on forums on multiple accounts.

    Step away from PC and think about it for a minute.

     

  • mrgrimrprmrgrimrpr Colorado Springs, COPosts: 87Member
    Originally posted by Bigdaddyx
    Originally posted by mrgrimrpr
    Originally posted by Bigdaddyx
    Originally posted by mrgrimrpr
    Originally posted by STYNKFYST
    Originally posted by Bigdaddyx
    Originally posted by ElRenmazuo
    Havent experienced one bug yet, too busy having fun

    Not even a single bug? i guess some people have all the luck.

    I wonder how you escaped the slow loading screens when the entire mega server was having this issue along with delay in chats, mails etc.

     

    Look BigDuddy posted against ESO again...what a shock.

    Don't worry. He's played almost 200 hours of ESO, but wants to complain about everything.

     

    Nothing to see here.

    Dude..how many alt accounts do you have on these forums? wow!!

    And yes i do like to discuss the bugs and other issues about the game. If it bothers you i suggest stop visiting the forums maybe. That is a lot better option than back and forth flaming.

    Classic. I'm perfectly fine with you voicing your opinion on the game, but anyone can see your posting history. Awful amount of negativity for someone who has played a game almost 9 hours a day since release.

    So, instead of accusing me of having multiple forum accounts, perhaps you can get the stick out of your ass and perhaps give the people your unbiased opinion (if you are capable of that, probably not).

    There is no flaming, just discussion, and if you are uncomfortable doing that, you probably should stop visiting the forums maybe.

    Apparently you are not because you have been trying to flame me on multiple accounts for several days now.

    Listen, you are not fooling me allright? and i know for sure soon you will get this account banned too. I talk about games and you talk about me. See the difference? its really unhealthy if you ask me. I don't know why my crticism of game bothers you that much that you have to take it so personally and follow me around on forums on multiple accounts.

    Step away from PC and think about it for a minute.

     

    LOL, I have a tin foil hat for you to buy. (Edit: Check out my join date.)

     

    ESO is a great game, and has it bugs and problems like every other MMO in existence. MMORPG players can be either pessimistic, or optimistic. The optimistic ones are flamed for "fanboying", and the pessimistic ones are flamed for "hating".

    Unfortunately, everyone on either side is to the extremes.

     

    ESO thus far, has been pretty solid. The pitfalls have been fairly minor. What really kills these games more than bugs, are individuals who are overly critical.

    It would be exhausting for me to play a game, which I over criticize.

    Happy Easter.

     

    Edit: Thanks for reporting my post, you fucking toolbag.

  • LookwhostalkingLookwhostalking Indiana, KSPosts: 63Member
    Originally posted by Bigdaddyx
    Originally posted by mrgrimrpr
    Originally posted by STYNKFYST
    Originally posted by Bigdaddyx
    Originally posted by ElRenmazuo
    Havent experienced one bug yet, too busy having fun

    Not even a single bug? i guess some people have all the luck.

    I wonder how you escaped the slow loading screens when the entire mega server was having this issue along with delay in chats, mails etc.

     

    Look BigDuddy posted against ESO again...what a shock.

    Don't worry. He's played almost 200 hours of ESO, but wants to complain about everything.

     

    Nothing to see here.

    Dude..how many alt accounts do you have on these forums? wow!!

    And yes i do like to discuss the bugs and other issues about the game. If it bothers you i suggest stop visiting the forums maybe. That is a lot better option than back and forth flaming.

     

    Yep, i cant get why ppl who bothered read the posts and flame others. If you dont like reading others posts if they are complaining about a game, then dont read them. So simple

  • DistopiaDistopia Baltimore, MDPosts: 16,905Member Uncommon
    Originally posted by mpompos
    Originally posted by Bigdaddyx
    Originally posted by mrgrimrpr
    Originally posted by STYNKFYST
    Originally posted by Bigdaddyx
    Originally posted by ElRenmazuo
    Havent experienced one bug yet, too busy having fun

    Not even a single bug? i guess some people have all the luck.

    I wonder how you escaped the slow loading screens when the entire mega server was having this issue along with delay in chats, mails etc.

     

    Look BigDuddy posted against ESO again...what a shock.

    Don't worry. He's played almost 200 hours of ESO, but wants to complain about everything.

     

    Nothing to see here.

    Dude..how many alt accounts do you have on these forums? wow!!

    And yes i do like to discuss the bugs and other issues about the game. If it bothers you i suggest stop visiting the forums maybe. That is a lot better option than back and forth flaming.

     

    Yep, i cant get why ppl who bothered read the posts and flame others. If you dont like reading others posts if they are complaining about a game, then dont read them. So simple

    It really works both ways though doesn't it? I guess we could go in circles with this all year if we wanted to :). Oh wait... we already do..

    For every minute you are angry , you lose 60 seconds of happiness."-Emerson

    It is a sign of a defeated man, to attack at ones character in the face of logic and reason- Me

  • GrimmxGrimmx SandefjordPosts: 219Member

    The question i have to ask  myself is "will this ruin the game?"

     

    Will the duped gold destroy the economy even if they manage to remove most of it?  (im uncertain here)

    Are there any items duped now that will forever unbalance the game? (i dont think so)

    Does the fact that some people have 50 enchanting because of duped materials annoy me? yes it does, but it doesnt ruin the game...

     

    I personally wont stop playing because of dupes, and im certain it wont affect me in PvP either. Atleast not as time passes and higher tier gear gets introduced.

    Whats sad about MMORPG gaming nowis that all the gold spammers, bots and now dupes takes the fun away for people just here to actually just play the game.

     

     

     

  • SonOfMaxSonOfMax St. Paul, WIPosts: 9Member

    Op,

     

    Ask yourself this. If you really, really screwed up. Wouldn't you rather keep it quite?

    And its not like it impacted the game much. PvP has been skewed up something fierce but there is virtually no impact to the PvE side of it all.

  • MaximumPayneMaximumPayne Baldwin, WIPosts: 7Member
    Originally posted by stickman1979

    Here is the official ZeniMax reply from ZOS_JessicaFolsom :

    http://forums.elderscrollsonline.com/discussion/comment/666877/#Comment_666877

    It was posted on:

    April 18  

    Relevant snip:

    Yesterday, we identified an item duping bug in ESO that some players chose to exploit. We acted quickly, and have since fixed the issue.

     

    Here is where the oops happens.

     

    This is a cache of a forum post they deleted: 

    http://webcache.googleusercontent.com/search?q=cache:http://forums.elderscrollsonline.com/discussion/80638/new-bug-with-bank-no-it-s-not-missing-items-it-s-duplicating-item-by-using-bank

    It was posted quite a while back.

     

    Here is an Amazon review of the game that was also posted a while ago mentioning said dupe:

    http://www.amazon.com/review/R1U46C1NVZVAMV/ref=cm_cr_rdp_perm?ie=UTF8&ASIN=B00I4BGLOG

    This review was downvoted and sat as one of the most unhelpful reviews out there. Now it is gaining steam.

     

    Both of these predate the bug that they "identified" on the 17'th... By WEEKS.

     

    Another update on the Amazon review:

    4/19/2014 UPDATE: Seems like ZeniMax introduced another bug into the game. This one will allow you to get unlimited mail from your hirelings. I simply don't know how to react to the way they are running things.

    So pretty sure that will come out eventually as well.

     

    Lol ZM is caught with their pants down. Nice.

    But let me say this in their defense, when has any TES game released without a plethora of game breaking bugs?

    While I do think they should have been honest about these issues instead of covering them up, I can't really blame them since the truth would drive a lot of potential players from the game.

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