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  • MaquiameMaquiame Posts: 805Member Uncommon
    Glad I'm getting a PS4

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  • CthulhuPuffsCthulhuPuffs Henderson, NVPosts: 363Member Common
    Originally posted by Distopia
    Originally posted by CthulhuPuffs
    So what happens to the people that Crowd Funded this on Kickstarter??
     

    What should? This is the whole point behind Kickstarters, start off small, build toward something big. Can't get much bigger than this.

    This was supposed to be a Consumer funded project. Not a Zuckerberg funded project.

    The point behind Kickstarter is to start off small and build to something bigger with the help of the public (end user).

    Not to use the Consumers money so you can build up your project just to sell it off to some billionaire asshole.

     

    I think those that Kickstarted this thing should get their money back.

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  • VolgoreVolgore Posts: 2,212Member Uncommon
    I always said that this device would be dead before it hits the market  :)

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  • xpiherxpiher Indianapolis, INPosts: 3,311Member

    You guys are hilarious. First of all Facebook and the NSA/CIA don't need to have an agreement in order for it to be used to "spy" on you. Most information people post is public, you don't have any expectation of priacy when you post it to the web. NSA/CIA/Gov simply needs to pay someone to shift through all the amount of public data on there to make a very telling profile on you. Honestly, any individual on this site could trawl one of their friend's profiles and tell their friend what they are planning on doing for the next week based on their posts. 

    Secondly, OR might be designed perfectly for gamers, but its a platform first, a platform that can be used for anything that it can support. From everything I know of OR its obvious that the platform was eventually going to be taken in this direction if for no other reason than to expand its marketable base. Do gamers have a monopoly of the platform? No. 

    Now, I am a little worried about what facebook might try and integrated into the platform by a default. HOWEVER, if facebook takes a hands off approch to the platform and simply uses the in depth knowledge of it to customize software that is ultra compatible with it, thus using the purchase as nothing more than a competitive edge, there will be nothing to fear. 

    But lets be real, OR by itself is not SAO. You can get vertigo from it, but that's about it. You need it to either hook into the sympathetic nervous system, which has its own fears, or you need a suit to go along with that simulates contact with objects. IMO, the most likely state that VR will go to in the near future is a body suit and software that simulates pain/feeling. The amount of coding to go into this for games would be VERY intense, but the possibilities and starting blocks are already there. Funnily enough, part of its comes from the pron industry that. Look it up

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  • TbauTbau Chicago, ILPosts: 401Member
    The only worse company I could think of buying them out would be Microsoft, and not by much.
  • EpicentEpicent Pierre Part, LAPosts: 647Member
  • AIMonsterAIMonster Apopka, FLPosts: 2,059Member

    I don't get why people can't understand why we are upset about this.

    Being bought up by Facebook will definitely change the direction Rift focuses on.  The device was primarily meant for immersive gaming, with simulation secondary, and other things like immersive movie watching and virtual shopping (like for homes) as something that would be possible with the Rift, but not likely going to become a focus.

    We already know the focus will change.  They'll leave Rift alone for a while, but we all know Zuckerberg is going to push the social aspects of the device.  I mean in the post about the buyout he already stated that he's interested in doing so with the whole sentence people keep quoting above.

    On top of that we have the whole issue of Facebook wanting a return on their investment.  This could very well mean selling of your data.  It could mean you'll see a lot of advertisements when using the Rift.  There is a good chance that they'll take a % of the cut for any games (and other applications) as well to get ROI which doesn't exist with the OR in it's current iteration.

    This very well may be good news for the OR's future as Facebook will really push to market this, but it's bad news for gamers.  I don't really care about the OR's potential in social media, classroom learning, or watching sports as if I'm really at the stadium itself.  I mainly just care about it's potential in gaming and all I personally see is this is going to take away the focus from gaming.

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  • AzureProwerAzurePrower AustraliaPosts: 1,508Member Uncommon

    I think they leaked their April fools a little too early.

     

    Edit: The bitterness of the Internet knows no limits. Hell hath no fury like a mob of angry gamer's scorn.

     

  • xpiherxpiher Indianapolis, INPosts: 3,311Member
    Its a platform. All that matters is if facebook forces facebook integration along with the platform. If they simply use it like google uses google glass, then its a fantastic thing for gamers. 

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  • DistopiaDistopia Baltimore, MDPosts: 16,916Member Uncommon
    Originally posted by AIMonster

    I don't get why people can't understand why we are upset about this.

    Being bought up by Facebook will definitely change the direction Rift focuses on.  The device was primarily meant for immersive gaming, with simulation secondary, and other things like immersive movie watching and virtual shopping (like for homes) as something that would be possible with the Rift, but not likely going to become a focus.

    We already know the focus will change.  They'll leave Rift alone for a while, but we all know Zuckerberg is going to push the social aspects of the device.  I mean in the post about the buyout he already stated that he's interested in doing so with the whole sentence people keep quoting above.

    On top of that we have the whole issue of Facebook wanting a return on their investment.  This could very well mean selling of your data.  It could mean you'll see a lot of advertisements when using the Rift.  There is a good chance that they'll take a % of the cut for any games (and other applications) as well to get ROI which doesn't exist with the OR in it's current iteration.

    This very well may be good news for the OR's future as Facebook will really push to market this, but it's bad news for gamers.  I don't really care about the OR's potential in social media, classroom learning, or watching sports as if I'm really at the stadium itself.  I mainly just care about it's potential in gaming and all I personally see is this is going to take away the focus from gaming.

    Upset is one thing, have you read through this thread? There's a whole other level of something going on here. Upset is a complete understatement.

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  • tankknattankknat WellingtonPosts: 51Member Uncommon
    I dont like this one bit... the people I feel sorry for the most are the ones who helped with the kickstarter... this is a kick in the teeth to the occulus followers... I dont think it would be so bad if facebook had put in this money before the kickstarter... not when its already off the ground... oh well... goodbye Occulus...
  • DistopiaDistopia Baltimore, MDPosts: 16,916Member Uncommon
    Originally posted by tankknat
    I dont like this one bit... the people I feel sorry for the most are the ones who helped with the kickstarter... this is a kick in the teeth to the occulus followers... I dont think it would be so bad if facebook had put in this money before the kickstarter... not when its already off the ground... oh well... goodbye Occulus...

    I don't get this mentality, it was a piece of technology, it was always destined for this to happen under circumstances of success. That's the way tech works, if it wasn't facebook it would have been someone else.

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  • TealaTeala SomewherePosts: 7,430Member Uncommon
    Originally posted by Zalmon

    I cant believe some of the mental replies in this topic. Too many paranoid people.

    And facebook acquiring Occulus won't hinder its application in video games, it just means that now its applications will be more widespread.

    Yeah, probably as long as you use Facebook.

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  • rtbbvrrtbbvr Callahan, FLPosts: 145Member Uncommon

    Oh no a start up company gets a corporate sponsor!!!! It must be the end of the world!!!!! Its not like other good ideas got large corporate backings (Like say... Anroid, orginally a Open Handset Alliance software purchased by Google)

    Seriously everyone, read some articles on it. Facebook is playing investment. I agree that it could be in better hands, but that kind of money can really push it full swing. It wasn't but 3 months ago the entire the Dev Kit V2 project was in danger of collapsing due to funding and production issues. Lets just cross our fingers and hope. 

  • EpicentEpicent Pierre Part, LAPosts: 647Member
    I feel alot better after reading all this from palmers reedit. Seems like they are still going to have creative rights. This could be a great things guys. Take the time to read this. http://www.reddit.com/user/palmerluckey?count=25&after=t1_cgby9ft
  • NitthNitth AustraliaPosts: 3,684Member Uncommon


    Originally posted by CthulhuPuffs
    Originally posted by Distopia Originally posted by CthulhuPuffs So what happens to the people that Crowd Funded this on Kickstarter??  
    What should? This is the whole point behind Kickstarters, start off small, build toward something big. Can't get much bigger than this.
    This was supposed to be a Consumer funded project. Not a Zuckerberg funded project.

    The point behind Kickstarter is to start off small and build to something bigger with the help of the public (end user).

    Not to use the Consumers money so you can build up your project just to sell it off to some billionaire asshole.

     

    I think those that Kickstarted this thing should get their money back.


    Where does it ever say that, And where does it say its any more than just throwing money at something. ie its not an investment.

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  • AzureProwerAzurePrower AustraliaPosts: 1,508Member Uncommon
    Originally posted by Epicent
    I feel alot better after reading all this from palmers reedit. Seems like they are still going to have creative rights. This could be a great things guys. Take the time to read this. http://www.reddit.com/user/palmerluckey?count=25&after=t1_cgby9ft

    All those lovely points are countered with one word:

     

     

    Facebook

     

     

    If you didn't know. It's not a well received word among the gaming community.

  • EpicentEpicent Pierre Part, LAPosts: 647Member
    Originally posted by AzurePrower
    Originally posted by Epicent
    I feel alot better after reading all this from palmers reedit. Seems like they are still going to have creative rights. This could be a great things guys. Take the time to read this. http://www.reddit.com/user/palmerluckey?count=25&after=t1_cgby9ft

    All those lovely points are countered with one word:

     

     

    Facebook

     

     

    If you didn't know. It's not a well received word among the gaming community.

    Lol. Im trying to be positive.............I can only hope for the best. VR is the future and if oculus doesnt deliver someone else will.  Im crossing my fingers

  • TorvalTorval Oregon CountryPosts: 7,223Member Uncommon
    Originally posted by AzurePrower
    Originally posted by Epicent
    I feel alot better after reading all this from palmers reedit. Seems like they are still going to have creative rights. This could be a great things guys. Take the time to read this. http://www.reddit.com/user/palmerluckey?count=25&after=t1_cgby9ft

    All those lovely points are countered with one word:

    Facebook

    If you didn't know. It's not a well received word among the gaming community.

    You mean those who like to fancy themselves the voice of the gaming community don't you. There is no homogeneous hivemind in an international community that spans tens of millions with very diverse genres. There are probably as many, if not more, gamers on Facebook, playing Facebook games, or posting to their gaming groups on FB than there are gamers pretending there is something sinister about it.

    Of course that voice doesn't like this. They like "not liking" most everything and thrive on being put out.

  • Nemesis7884Nemesis7884 ZurichPosts: 880Member Uncommon
    Same for me...thought about buying one...well not anymore
  • HulluckHulluck lost in bfe, TNPosts: 605Member Uncommon
    Originally posted by Phaserlight

    The rough equivalent of a stealth bomber is nothing to shake a stick at.  Palmer and Iribe made the smart business move in agreeing to this.  I think this opens up more possibilities than ever before and is something to be legitimately enthusiastic about.  Before jogging down various mental hypotheses of how Facebook will control Oculus' creative direction, consider that before this the future of Oculus remained somewhat uncertain.  With this investment captial Oculus will be able to make their dream a reality with greater fidelity and over a much broader range of applications.

    Facebook is nothing to be afraid of as long as it's used responsibly.  Employers will actually look at the way social media is used by a potential employee before hiring; it can actually be an asset.  Based on Zuckerberg's statement I doubt Facebook will interfere much with Oculus' direction, especially at first; however, as time goes on we'll begin to see a variety of unexpected uses for this technology, not necessarily tied in to Facebook as it exists today, but associated with the Facebook brand.

    Lastly, I'll be that guy who recommends watching "The Social Network" to get a better idea of Facebook's history and some of the dramatic changes it's gone through over the past decade.

    Just going to leave this here. It's a link to a post on this site I made on the subject that explains why "I" will not buy a FB product. I will not go into much more detail other than that. It's to personal.  Had certain people asked instead of insulting others I am sure people would have explained their point of view. I didn't post specifics earlier because I was refraining from derailing the topic. Imagine that. Until two trolls started belittling everyone. Most people could guess it was privacy related but specifically haven't given my perspective. It's amazing how 2 people in this thread told me that they knew the situation and what's best for me. That they had me all figured out. Still amazed by that.

    As far as I care  EA, Google, Steam, Microsoft, almost any company other than FB could have picked it up and I would personally not said a word. None of those companies gave me a month of hell trying to sort out a really bad situation. THAT HAS STILL TO BE SORTED A YEAR LATER!!!!!!!!! I gave up. It wasn't just an isolated incident with me either.  They have a really bad reputation for how they handle such situations. Similar incidents have been in the news, it's been documented fairly well online. My story, I have little doubt that it would have made the news had I made someone "bite the curb."  At that point in time it was that bad considering everything that had happened related to this person.

    You will most likely not believe it.  I still don't believe it or get it. How a company whose business is people can be so screwed up and not get it. This company was telling me who was the real me and who wasn't. After going through their process of giving real I.D. and all that jazz!  They told family members on this persons friends list the same who went through the same process.  People who were duped.  I SHIT YOU NOT!!  I am calmed down a year later for the most part. Blood still gets a little hot when on the subject. That's about it.

    In short someone very maliciously had been using my identity for gain and to do damage. They also stole personal property of mine 1 car 1 truck of the top items. It was someone from my past who I had not had contact with for 8 years. Someone I did nothing to except not associate with them anymore because they were malicious people. Go figure.

    So I don't hate Facebook because it's the popular thing to do.  I have a dam good reason never to spend money or touch any service or product from them and I won't 

     

    Edit. The thread in that link was kind of stupid. That's beside the point. lmao

  • WightyWighty Westbury, NYPosts: 665Member Uncommon

    @ Teala 

    I'm with you on this...

     

    This is dangerous on so many levels... First being anything that you use or post on Facebook is no longer your property... your images are farmed and sold off every possible chance.

    http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2013/10/09/chris-murphy-facebook_n_4072669.html

     

    Additionally... This is the next step into retinal recognition advertising...

    It's funny how art imitates life as we can go back as far as Bladerunner and more modern movies where you are being recognized by camera via retinal ID... You'll walk through the mall and have digital (or holographic) billboards tailored to you.

     

    It is sick shit and as much as we think we are anonymous on some friggin MMO site I would bet 95% of you are attention whoring on FB every chance you get... putting pics of your family, friends and kids for anyone to see...

     

    The ignorance people have to all this is befuddling.

     

    /tinfoil hat off...

    What are your other Hobbies?

    Gaming is Dirt Cheap compared to this...

  • DistopiaDistopia Baltimore, MDPosts: 16,916Member Uncommon
    Originally posted by Wighty

    @ Teala 

    I'm with you on this...

     

    This is dangerous on so many levels... First being anything that you use or post on Facebook is no longer your property... your images are farmed and sold off every possible chance.

    http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2013/10/09/chris-murphy-facebook_n_4072669.html

     

    Additionally... This is the next step into retinal recognition advertising...

    It's funny how art imitates life as we can go back as far as Bladerunner and more modern movies where you are being recognized by camera via retinal ID... You'll walk through the mall and have digital (or holographic) billboards tailored to you.

     

    It is sick shit and as much as we think we are anonymous on some friggin MMO site I would bet 95% of you are attention whoring on FB every chance you get... putting pics of your family, friends and kids for anyone to see...

     

    The ignorance people have to all this is befuddling.

     

    /tinfoil hat off...

    SO wait do you think if you're not using facebook or some other App, you're some how off the grid?

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  • WightyWighty Westbury, NYPosts: 665Member Uncommon
    Originally posted by Distopia
    Originally posted by Wighty
     

    SO wait do you think if you're not using facebook or some other App, you're some how off the grid?

    No... However the less you put your shit out there the less exposed you are... which is still bullshit I am sure...

    However you don't need to outright volunteer your information...

    What are your other Hobbies?

    Gaming is Dirt Cheap compared to this...

  • BeermanglerBeermangler Cluj NapocaPosts: 397Member Uncommon
    I felt a great disturbance in the Force, as if millions of gamers suddenly cried out in terror and were suddenly silenced.

    Better to be crazy, provided you know what sane is...

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