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Is it possible..... ESO is just an adaptation of an abandoned MMO?

Abuz0rAbuz0r Lexington, KYPosts: 354Member Uncommon

I mean, the interface is very elder scrolls.  Some of the scenery and monsters are very elder scrolls.

However, there is so much generic fantasy MMO material, far outnumbering Elder Scrolls material.

It makes me think Zenimax took over an abandoned MMO project and turned it into ESO rather than making it from scratch.

ESPECIALLY if you watch the trailer videos, theres nothing elder scrolls about them.

I plan to play ESO and I like the game for the record, just wanted to see if anyone else thought about this?

 

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  • EQBallzzEQBallzz Austin, TXPosts: 149Member Uncommon

    Are people really so bored that they need to create new and unique ways to bash ESO? This can't be serious.

  • superconductingsuperconducting Rochester, NYPosts: 843Member Uncommon

    Technically it's an adaptation of SWTOR, as they started out by using the Hero Engine. More on this here http://elderscrollsonline.info/news/about-game-engine

    Lets just hope it does not have the same fate.

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  • LIOKILIOKI Igloo, ABPosts: 175Member

    I received  an email from Neverwinter the other day and all the images on the email were from The Elder Scrolls online. I was confused about what was going on. I assume they are both owned by the same parent company, so this sharing of resources may not be so far fetched.

    I tried to copy paste the ad but all the images are separate from the body of the email and it won't save properly to post it up.

    Never argue with stupid people, they will drag you down to their level and then beat you with experience.

  • Eol-Eol- houston, TXPosts: 274Member


    Do people realize that most of the Elder Scrolls mythos is just generic fantasy? Its that way with almost every fantasy game, even though there are differences, there are huge similarities. The fantasy genre was so strongly shaped by Tolkien and Lord of the Rings, which carried over into gaming in the 70s with Dungeons and Dragons and then video games in the 1990s. People act like these game mythos are so creative and unique when in fact they are just derivatives of the stuff that came before it with a few twists here and there.

    Anyway, IMO ESO looks and feels a lot more like Elder Scrolls than I expected it to.

    Elladan - ESO (AD)
    Camring - SWTOR (Ebon Hawk)
    Eol & Justinian - Rift (Faeblight)
    Ceol and Duri - LotRO (Landroval)
    Kili - WoW
    Eol - Lineage 2
    Camring - SWG
    Justinian (Nimue), Camring - DAoC

  • GorillaGorilla Posts: 2,202Member Uncommon
    Originally posted by superconducting

    Technically it's an adaptation of SWTOR, as they started out by using the Hero Engine. More on this here http://elderscrollsonline.info/news/about-game-engineLets just hope it does not have the same fate.

     

    Not so. They used the hero engine to prototype only while writing thier own. SWTOR uses hero. http://www.gameinformer.com/b/features/archive/2012/05/25/why-the-elder-scrolls-online-isn-39-t-using-heroengine.aspx
  • sojurnesojurne Redford, MIPosts: 7Member Uncommon
    Originally posted by superconducting

    Technically it's an adaptation of SWTOR, as they started out by using the Hero Engine. More on this here http://elderscrollsonline.info/news/about-game-engine

    Lets just hope it does not have the same fate.

    The site linked above only shows half the information, ESO in it's current form has no traces of the Hero Engine, it is it's own system .. as explained better in this article ..  http://www.gameinformer.com/b/features/archive/2012/05/25/why-the-elder-scrolls-online-isn-39-t-using-heroengine.aspx   this will give a better overview of the discussion on the hero engine topic..

     

    I will be playing ESO myself, one cause i love the series and two because I have an imagination, to make it more than what it is to most....

     

    Imagination the lost trait of new age gamers...

     

    cheers.

     

     

     

  • EQBallzzEQBallzz Austin, TXPosts: 149Member Uncommon
    Originally posted by Eol-


    Do people realize that most of the Elder Scrolls mythos is just generic fantasy? Its that way with almost every fantasy game, even though there are differences, there are huge similarities. The fantasy genre was so strongly shaped by Tolkien and Lord of the Rings, which carried over into gaming in the 70s with Dungeons and Dragons and then video games in the 1990s. People act like these game mythos are so creative and unique when in fact they are just derivatives of the stuff that came before it with a few twists here and there.

    Anyway, IMO ESO looks and feels a lot more like Elder Scrolls than I expected it to.

    Exactly.

  • FdzzaiglFdzzaigl Somewhere in nowherePosts: 2,323Member Uncommon

    A far fetched and highly unlikely assumption at best.

    ESO isn't exactly the only MMO that has had trouble finding the right solution to get thousands of people playing together without them ruining each others experiences. And has had to compromise accordingly.

    Anyone who thinks you can simply copy singleplayer gameplay and dump it into an MMO is delusional.

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  • kosackosac Bakov nad JizerouPosts: 189Member Uncommon
    Originally posted by LIOKI

    I received  an email from Neverwinter the other day and all the images on the email were from The Elder Scrolls online. I was confused about what was going on. I assume they are both owned by the same parent company, so this sharing of resources may not be so far fetched.

    I tried to copy paste the ad but all the images are separate from the body of the email and it won't save properly to post it up.

    sorry but you realy dont know anything about both companys.. try use google...

  • KyleranKyleran Tampa, FLPosts: 19,995Member Uncommon

    That awkward feel is because they started out creating a 3 faction, PVP centric MMORPG and tried to wrap it around ES and it's single player game model.

    Some things are just not going to fit well.

     

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  • DistopiaDistopia Baltimore, MDPosts: 16,908Member Uncommon
    Originally posted by LIOKI

    I received  an email from Neverwinter the other day and all the images on the email were from The Elder Scrolls online. I was confused about what was going on. I assume they are both owned by the same parent company, so this sharing of resources may not be so far fetched.

    I tried to copy paste the ad but all the images are separate from the body of the email and it won't save properly to post it up.

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  • Shoko_LiedShoko_Lied -, WAPosts: 2,080Member Uncommon
    Originally posted by superconducting

    Technically it's an adaptation of SWTOR, as they started out by using the Hero Engine. More on this here http://elderscrollsonline.info/news/about-game-engine

    Lets just hope it does not have the same fate.

    The hero engine wasn't built specifically for SWTOR. What you're saying is like saying anyone who builds a game using any Unreal engine is making an adaption of any Unreal series game.

  • CazNeergCazNeerg Puyallup, WAPosts: 2,198Member
    Skyrim is way closer to being "generic" fantasy than ESO is.

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  • SatariousSatarious Kansas City, MOPosts: 1,075Member
    Originally posted by Eol-


    Do people realize that most of the Elder Scrolls mythos is just generic fantasy? Its that way with almost every fantasy game, even though there are differences, there are huge similarities. The fantasy genre was so strongly shaped by Tolkien and Lord of the Rings, which carried over into gaming in the 70s with Dungeons and Dragons and then video games in the 1990s. People act like these game mythos are so creative and unique when in fact they are just derivatives of the stuff that came before it with a few twists here and there.

    Anyway, IMO ESO looks and feels a lot more like Elder Scrolls than I expected it to.

    /agree

  • thunderCthunderC miami flPosts: 470Member Uncommon
    Felt Elder Scrollzy to me....
  • SpiiderSpiider BinzPosts: 474Member Uncommon
    This thread is as interessting as eso...yaaaaawn.

    No fate but what we make, so make me a ham sandwich please.

  • timidobservertimidobserver Orlando, FLPosts: 245Member
    Originally posted by Spiider
    This thread is as interessting as eso...yaaaaawn.

    It certainly has enough interest to get you in here to make a post to bash it. For example, I don't go in the  WoW section of the forums to bash WoW because WoW isn't interesting enough for me to even waste my time doing that. 

  • reeereeereeereee Posts: 1,203Member Uncommon
    Originally posted by kosac
    Originally posted by LIOKI

    I received  an email from Neverwinter the other day and all the images on the email were from The Elder Scrolls online. I was confused about what was going on. I assume they are both owned by the same parent company, so this sharing of resources may not be so far fetched.

    I tried to copy paste the ad but all the images are separate from the body of the email and it won't save properly to post it up.

    sorry but you realy dont know anything about both companys.. try use google...

    Actually I vaguely remember getting an email about Neverwinter that linked to that first well polished cg trailer for ESO.  I really had no idea that was an ESO trailer until they released the second part (well after Neverwinter launched.)  Given PWE's business practices I wouldn't exactly be shocked if they had tried to get people to think ESO footage/videos were really Neverwinter.

  • RocknissRockniss Youngstown, OHPosts: 1,034Member

    I think you have a legit point. It feels so far from an elder scrolls game - think about it .... 3 faction pvp - the main event ... so what part of 3 faction pvp says Elder Scrolls? 

    Please consider not just pvp, but the number 3, as well as all the single player experiences, and realize many games have never made it to fruition. 

    What the op has stated is quite possible.

  • ArndushArndush Dallas, TXPosts: 303Member
    Originally posted by sojurne
    Originally posted by superconducting

    Technically it's an adaptation of SWTOR, as they started out by using the Hero Engine. More on this here http://elderscrollsonline.info/news/about-game-engine

    Lets just hope it does not have the same fate.

    The site linked above only shows half the information, ESO in it's current form has no traces of the Hero Engine, it is it's own system .. as explained better in this article ..  http://www.gameinformer.com/b/features/archive/2012/05/25/why-the-elder-scrolls-online-isn-39-t-using-heroengine.aspx   this will give a better overview of the discussion on the hero engine topic..

     

    I will be playing ESO myself, one cause i love the series and two because I have an imagination, to make it more than what it is to most....

     

    Imagination the lost trait of new age gamers...

     

    cheers.

     

     

     

    This happened with SWTOR too. They started with the Hero Engine, but it didn't meet all their needs, so it was heavily modified. What ESO now uses and what SWTOR now uses, bares little resemblance to the Hero Engine, or each other.

  • ArndushArndush Dallas, TXPosts: 303Member
    Originally posted by Rockniss

    I think you have a legit point. It feels so far from an elder scrolls game - think about it .... 3 faction pvp - the main event ... so what part of 3 faction pvp says Elder Scrolls? 

    Please consider not just pvp, but the number 3, as well as all the single player experiences, and realize many games have never made it to fruition. 

    What the op has stated is quite possible.

    I think you're looking for fire to support the OPs smoke. The Zenimax team has a lot of DAoC veterans on it. This explains the three faction PvP quite simply, without the need of conspiracy theories. Besides, with the veracity of today's gaming media and fans, and things being as they are on the internet, is there anyway this game could've gone through half a decade in development without someone digging up the documents where Zenimax and Bethesda bought the code for an abandoned game? Please, that would've made news faster than you could say Molag Bal's arse.

  • CazNeergCazNeerg Puyallup, WAPosts: 2,198Member
    Originally posted by Rockniss

    I think you have a legit point. It feels so far from an elder scrolls game - think about it .... 3 faction pvp - the main event ... so what part of 3 faction pvp says Elder Scrolls? 

    Please consider not just pvp, but the number 3, as well as all the single player experiences, and realize many games have never made it to fruition. 

    What the op has stated is quite possible.

    Let's see.  In Skyrim we had the Stormcloaks (faction 1) the Imperials (faction 2) the Thalmor (faction 3) and we had mention of the Argonians driving the Dunmer out of most of Morrowind and establishing an independent kingdom (faction 4) as well as mention of part of Hammerfell no longer following the Empire because of the White Gold Concordat (faction 5).  There may even be some more I missed.  I guess you are right, three isn't nearly enough factions for an Elder Scrolls game.

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  • Randallt3mpRandallt3mp Menlo Park, CAPosts: 168Member
    Originally posted by sojurne

     

    I will be playing ESO myself, one cause i love the series and two because I have an imagination, to make it more than what it is to most....

     

    Imagination the lost trait of new age gamers...

     

    cheers.

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  • atziluthatziluth Portsmouth, NHPosts: 1,195Member Uncommon

    Other than three faction which really is essential for dynamic PvP without turning it into a FFA gank fest... what exactly does not feel TES? 

    I have registered a lot of time in all the TES series starting with daggerfall. I think the conversion from single player to MMO has been done very well. Certain things have to be altered to make the transition between genre, but overall it is much better than I originally thought it would be.  

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  • superconductingsuperconducting Rochester, NYPosts: 843Member Uncommon
    Originally posted by Arndush
    Originally posted by sojurne
    Originally posted by superconducting

    Technically it's an adaptation of SWTOR, as they started out by using the Hero Engine. More on this here http://elderscrollsonline.info/news/about-game-engine

    Lets just hope it does not have the same fate.

    The site linked above only shows half the information, ESO in it's current form has no traces of the Hero Engine, it is it's own system .. as explained better in this article ..  http://www.gameinformer.com/b/features/archive/2012/05/25/why-the-elder-scrolls-online-isn-39-t-using-heroengine.aspx   this will give a better overview of the discussion on the hero engine topic..

     

    I will be playing ESO myself, one cause i love the series and two because I have an imagination, to make it more than what it is to most....

     

    Imagination the lost trait of new age gamers...

     

    cheers.

     

     

     

    This happened with SWTOR too. They started with the Hero Engine, but it didn't meet all their needs, so it was heavily modified. What ESO now uses and what SWTOR now uses, bares little resemblance to the Hero Engine, or each other.

    Yep. I get that. I get that ESO has nothing to do with SWTOR. I know that ESO uses a custom-designed engine, believe me.

    Was only trying to state that ESO's roots were once shared with SWTOR. I stated it badly however.

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