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Angry Joe - Wildstar beta impressions not very positive
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Its not just a question of difficulty but how interesting will the fights be, how varied will they be, how innovative will they be etc. We wont know till we get there and try them out. Certainly Carbine has enough former WoW and other devs on hand that can come up with fun designs and hopefully they understand the difference between hard/challenging and punishing.
Because its not informed feedback. Its the equivalent of complaining about a restaurant that youve never ate at before having just looked at their menu. Or if you just tried one of their dishes and assume everything else they have to offer looks and tastes exactly like that.
If someone got to level 20 and then posted negative feedback saying "well I saw the capital city, dungeons, adventures, did some pvp, explored the world, and ive decided that the game sucks because it promised X but only delivered Y" then that would be informed feedback. Watch some of those players on Twitch that have level 27 characters and what not. THEY give informed feedback as to the state of the game and quality of the content. Angry Joe does not or he simply doesnt play long enough to become informed. Simple proof is in his turn around on TESO. One he played it long enough to see what it has to offer he all of a sudden started to be impressed.
And if you were to say that the game needs to be impressive from the immediate start then I would say two things, 1) both TESO and WS are not that impressive from the start and 2) its the equivalent of wanting a car to be totally impressive when all youve done is driven it in a parking lot. Sometimes it takes a drive down the street or highway to see the big picture.
I couldn't have said it better myself.
-Azure Prower
http://www.youtube.com/AzurePrower
That could be said about almost any game journalist, youtuber, blogger and generally any ifamer out there looking for some buzz on their site. Virtually no one spoke negatively of GW2. Most declared it as the game that will change the industry forever.
Obviously every game is not for everyone.
Personally, I loved every minute I played and I so wish I could still log in!
I don't understand why people pay so much attention to this Angry Joe kid. Never heard of him before and after watching his videos, I see nothing remotely special about his reviews.
His opinions mean absolutely nothing to me. My own opinion about a game will always be #1
edit: oh, that MikeB
Angry Joe - beta impressions not very reliable
I can only wonder what he thought after you uninstalled Wildstar and logged back into WoW...
On the topic, I don't like Angry Joe. I've watched a ton of his videos, and maybe chuckled at a line or two, but overall- he's kinda annoying. If people won't play Wildstar 'cos Angry Joe said so- then I guess i need to thank him... probably don't need those types of people so early in the community...
I second this:
Angry Joe - beta impressions not very reliable
Loves: SMITE, WildStar, Project Zomboid, PSO2, DCUO,
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"Im ready for
All the comparisons
I think its dumb and its embarrassing
Im switching off
No longer listening
Ive had enough of persecution and conditioning
Maybe its instinct- Were only animal" - Lily Allen, Sheezus
that did make me laugh :-)
So you want a game you are not ashamed to play. Or a game that does hamper on your image to others.
If there was no one to watch you play would that make the game better?
Seems like a strange criteria to enjoy a game, but maybe a lot of people feel the same ways.
If the game feels childish then even though games are childish, it makes it embarassing for them to play, or feel like a waste of time.
Any video games is basically an escape. Same with movies. It helps to take people to a place away from their real lives for entertainment (except for some more serious movies).
And mmos are really for people that maybe do not realize this is designed for those that want to escape reality. Its designed to fulfill the needs of those that do not want to engage in real life to enjoy their real life hence the long grinds. The success of mmos and long grinds is unfortunately designed for depressed people. Depressed people make grindy mmos successful. Therefore it makes sense a grindy mmo to be more designed as something more fantasy than realistic in a sand box mmos.
Write bad things that are done to you in sand, but write the good things that happen to you on a piece of marble
Dissapointed in the starting area of Wild star. But its probably done quickly.
Im surprised mmos dont bother as much with turning a regular character into a hero. Rather than starting with something you already know is a hero, only have context as their story, but start their jounrey with actions that did not shape them into who they are.
For example a warrior would be a hero based on combat. A warrior did not become a warrior from not doing non combat tasks. Sure there are many aspects to training... but its an introduction, so they need to choose something important to emphasis the character and bring out that hero.
A medic obviously saving people with some medical break through. Or on the field, and saving soldeirs.
Such a simple way to start but would be more fitting and better. Just my opinion.
All the extra content of mmos that take away from the main role of the character in combat can be a bad thing. Those are meant to be compliments to the game. The main focus is combat and different variations of combat.
Write bad things that are done to you in sand, but write the good things that happen to you on a piece of marble
Honestly Angry Joe isn't a critic at all. And i don't trust anyone who drools on Titanfall...
Watching this video made me want to play even more! Hopefully I get a beta key
100% agree. he had both positive and negative things to say, not sure why people are taking this as a reason for it to fail or he's chatting out his ass. I first read the comments and was expecting something much more worse when starting to watch the video, but it was a decent first impression of the game, tbh made me want to play it more.
Not sure whats up with people on here, they seem to love blowing things out of proportion so much. "The games not for me, but will be awesome for other people. Has some great new ideas added on top of the traditional mmo formula" some how translated into "This game sucks, defo gonna fail. I wouldn't go near it. F2p in few months" just the impression i get from looking at these replies
Yeah. Having done a full watch of Angry Joe's video. That's the impression I got. Seems people didn't watch it all the way.
But that's okay. Better to counter the hype train so people don't go in with unrealistic expectations, only to be disappointed later. Better to be pleasantly surprised.
How ever, all that matters is if the people playing the game are having fun. If you're not having fun. No need to stay.
-Azure Prower
http://www.youtube.com/AzurePrower
I think that was a fairly honest and well rounded preview.
AJ praised the WS devs in numerous areas for innovation and commented a number of times that he liked what they had done.
He was also honest enough to comment on the starting zones being a little "meh" in their design and also in the content of those quests...again I think that is a fair critiscism.
Ultimately I took from the video that he was positive about the game, but recognised that this type of themepark MMORPG is not his cup of tea. Nothing wrong with that imo.
Driz
I think that was a fairly honest and well rounded preview.
AJ praised the WS devs in numerous areas for innovation and commented a number of times that he liked what they had done.
He was also honest enough to comment on the starting zones being a little "meh" in their design and also in the content of those quests...again I think that is a fair critiscism.
Ultimately I took from the video that he was positive about the game, but recognised that this type of themepark MMORPG is not his cup of tea. Nothing wrong with that imo.
Driz
It wasnt a preview though, it was just his immediate impression which is rather useless. The point of a preview is not to determine if its the previewers cup of tea. The point of a preview is to get far enough in a game to adequately size it up and convey that to the public so they can determine if its their cup of tea. If all you spend is 15 minutes on an mmorpg then what can you comment about? The tutorial levels? Interface, sound/music, settings? 15 minutes in an mmorpg is the equivalent of checking out a car in a show room and sitting in it a few times. Thats not a test drive.
Not trying to step on any toes here, but from my background playing beta for vanilla wow and getting through AQ / Naxx in vanilla and through SWP in BC.. This stuff is expected. We want a higher skill based population anyway. Then we don't have to replace raiders so often.
I feel the same way, in addition to the fact that the telegraph combat system is super lame and boring to me. If the combat was more fun, I could probably stomach the rest of it.. but it's just not.