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Which faction will be OP'd at launch?

GiffenGiffen Lacey, WAPosts: 268Member Uncommon

Since preorders can make races be in any faction, I guess this question might be a two part question:

 

1) Which faction is going to be most populated at launch (probably due to the starting areas or look)?

 

2) Which faction has the most desired races/starting area for players that don't preorder (that faction's population will grow faster than others after game launch)?

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  • CouganCougan DoncasterPosts: 394Member

    I would say Ebonheart Pact might be more popular at launch due to it having Skyrim and Morrowind. New players who care about racial bonuses might choose Aldmeri for their excellent Nightblade and Sorceror type bonuses.

     

     

  • lunatiquezlunatiquez San Fransisco, CAPosts: 381Member
    Ebonheart for Skyrim, Aldmeri for elves & cats. People found Daggerfall less attractive due to King Emeric's economy-based kingdom and poor choice of races.
  • SpottyGekkoSpottyGekko RotterdamPosts: 3,845Member Uncommon

    Found this site today which was quite interesting: TESO Census

    (That linky is to the results page, you can enter your own data on the homepage.)

     

    Just over 2000 characters in the survey so far, and Ebonheart is indeed in the lead (Go Skyrim !).

    Predictably, Nightblades are very popular as a profession... image

  • Flyte27Flyte27 Greenwich, CTPosts: 2,833Member Uncommon

    I'm pretty sure the aldmeri dominion will be the most popular do to the races and also the prettier landscape.  I don't know if that will give it an advantage or not.  Most games I've played people like elves and forests.

    The ebonheart pack will come in second as it has races people will like to play and has SKyrim.

    I'm planning to play the daggerfall covenant and I think it will be the least played with it's races and starting setting.  The setting seems a little different then what I'm used to playing with Skyrim and Oblivion. 

  • DamediusDamedius Calgary, ABPosts: 346Member
    Originally posted by Flyte27

    I'm pretty sure the aldmeri dominion will be the most popular do to the races and also the prettier landscape.  I don't know if that will give it an advantage or not.  Most games I've played people like elves and forests.

    The ebonheart pack will come in second as it has races people will like to play and has SKyrim.

    I'm planning to play the daggerfall covenant and I think it will be the least played with it's races and starting setting.  The setting seems a little different then what I'm used to playing with Skyrim and Oblivion. 

    That's about as even as you can get for faction distribution.

  • lunatiquezlunatiquez San Fransisco, CAPosts: 381Member
    Originally posted by Flyte27

    I'm pretty sure the aldmeri dominion will be the most popular do to the races and also the prettier landscape.  I don't know if that will give it an advantage or not.  Most games I've played people like elves and forests.

    The ebonheart pack will come in second as it has races people will like to play and has SKyrim.

    I'm planning to play the daggerfall covenant and I think it will be the least played with it's races and starting setting.  The setting seems a little different then what I'm used to playing with Skyrim and Oblivion. 

    This is the main reason why I'm choosing Daggerfall as well. I'm already fed up with elves in many other thousands of mmorpgs and I've spent hundreds of hours in Skyrim. I found Daggerfall continent fresh and different.

    Moreover, it's not like we won't see other factions' area as we'll tackle them later in 50+ and 50++ content.

  • TineaTinea North Olmsted, OHPosts: 80Member Uncommon

    It may shift around a bit after launch since a chunk of the population will have preordered.  But after that, everyone else will be locked into a race/faction (or it will be something you unlock by purchasing in the store).

    So once the preorder dust settles, Ebonheart will have the highest population because of Dunmer / dark elves.  For some reason they are always the popular race in any game.

  • Jean-Luc_PicardJean-Luc_Picard La BarrePosts: 3,540Member Uncommon
    It's no big secret now the NDA is gone. Ebonheart's going to be the most popular faction.

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  • SpawnbladeSpawnblade Sandy, UTPosts: 203Member
    Originally posted by inemosz
    Ebonheart for Skyrim, Aldmeri for elves & cats. People found Daggerfall less attractive due to King Emeric's economy-based kingdom and poor choice of races.

    This is mostly true, though Daggerfall has one thing going for it:  Orcs.  Orcs are pretty badass in this game, and people who have a history of playing orcs may gravitate there.  Redguards are pretty sweet too, depending on your taste.  Hell, people might just pick it to avoid elves and furries.

     

    Keeping in mind, of course, that anyone who preorders is not limited by race, in which case they may base their decision on Lore, or on location.  I, for one, wanted to go Ebonheart just because I love Morrowind's mushrooms so much, or Aldmeri for Elsweyr.  My friend and his guild were planning Daggerfall though... so I don't know now.  

  • Jean-Luc_PicardJean-Luc_Picard La BarrePosts: 3,540Member Uncommon

    Aye, the racial requirement removal for pre-orders looks awfully like an attempts at damage control. The developers have server stats, and they have most obviously noticed the bias towards a specific faction and race(s).

    Hopefully it will work for all those who hope to enjoy the PvP in this game.

    Playing now: WoW, Landmark, GW2, The Crew, SotA

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    Honorable mentions: AO, LotRO, SW:TOR and GW2.

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  • SpawnbladeSpawnblade Sandy, UTPosts: 203Member
    Originally posted by Tinea

    It may shift around a bit after launch since a chunk of the population will have preordered.  But after that, everyone else will be locked into a race/faction (or it will be something you unlock by purchasing in the store).

    So once the preorder dust settles, Ebonheart will have the highest population because of Dunmer / dark elves.  For some reason they are always the popular race in any game.

    I'm not so sure.  Looking at that graph, Bretons are somehow in the lead.  Spell resistance OP, I guess?  Orsimer and Redguard are depressingly low though.  Actually looks like the alliances are very even, by races and otherwise.  It's really anyone's game at this point.  I'm really surprised the factions are balanced so well, even with such a small sample.

  • SpottyGekkoSpottyGekko RotterdamPosts: 3,845Member Uncommon
    Originally posted by Tinea

    It may shift around a bit after launch since a chunk of the population will have preordered.  But after that, everyone else will be locked into a race/faction (or it will be something you unlock by purchasing in the store).

    So once the preorder dust settles, Ebonheart will have the highest population because of Dunmer / dark elves.  For some reason they are always the popular race in any game.

    I'm not sure how important that faction race-lock will be really. Looks like ZOS are going to be offering "upgrade" options post-launch for those who want the benefits of the higher-grade game editions. Pay the difference and you're away.

     

    Ebonheart will either be the most popular or a very close second imho. The psychological effect of the Skyrim name, coupled with the Nord race and the Dunmer Dual-wield XP bonus is going to be significant imho.

  • Flyte27Flyte27 Greenwich, CTPosts: 2,833Member Uncommon
    Originally posted by Spawnblade
    Originally posted by Tinea

    It may shift around a bit after launch since a chunk of the population will have preordered.  But after that, everyone else will be locked into a race/faction (or it will be something you unlock by purchasing in the store).

    So once the preorder dust settles, Ebonheart will have the highest population because of Dunmer / dark elves.  For some reason they are always the popular race in any game.

    I'm not so sure.  Looking at that graph, Bretons are somehow in the lead.  Spell resistance OP, I guess?  Orsimer and Redguard are depressingly low though.  Actually looks like the alliances are very even, by races and otherwise.  It's really anyone's game at this point.  I'm really surprised the factions are balanced so well, even with such a small sample.

    I've played Breton in every elder scrolls game so far.  Perhaps it's time for a change.  I didn't really do it for the spell resistance though.

  • HrothaHrotha -Posts: 821Member
    Red.

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  • Bad.dogBad.dog Belleville, ONPosts: 1,108Member
    I'm from Canada and after this winter I can guarantee I'll be playing anywhere that doesn't involve snow ...might change my mind by August but in April it's the warmest looking place that I'll be heading to
  • CouganCougan DoncasterPosts: 394Member
    I'd much rather play the 50++ version of Skyrim myself. Good things come to those who wait!
  • bcbullybcbully Westland, MIPosts: 8,258Member Uncommon
    Originally posted by Jean-Luc_Picard
    It's no big secret now the NDA is gone. Ebonheart's going to be the most popular faction.

    I thought the same after my first beta weekend on with Ebonheart, last beta weekend it was the Blue guys (daggerfall?). Maybe just my campaign, but we got stomped Friday might lol.

  • evilastroevilastro EdinburghPosts: 4,270Member

    AD (high elves) have the best racial for magic users (6% more frost, fire, lightning damage). So anyone wanting to focus on Destruction Staff will want to be one.

     

    Daggerfall covenant has the most balanced racials across the faction, with suitable races for tanks (Orcs), casters (Bretons) and melee DPS (Redguard).

    Ebonheart lacks a decent caster race (Dunmer being the closest, but not matching High Elves or Bretons).

    AD lacks a decent tank race (Both Wood Elves and Khajiit are more melee DPS).

     

    I think players who didn't pre-order and are wanting to be caster DPS in EP and DC will be seriously disadvantaged by not being able to choose High Elves. 6% flat increase isn't exactly a trivial boost, the melee dps and tank choices by comparison aren't that meaningful (although the extra health for tanks is obviously desirable).   

    IMO they should add the 6% damage increase to both Bretons and Dark Elves, or remove it from High Elves (and the fire boost from Dark Elves) and give them something else.

     

     

  • Nemesis7884Nemesis7884 ZurichPosts: 879Member Uncommon

    races wise i think breton, nord, dunmer and altmer are going to be most played followed by khajiit. I would also expect Daggerfall to be the least played faction.

    I am looking at the landscapes which most interest me but plan on playing a class for each faction to 50.

    Ebonheart has Skyrim/Nordic, Morrowind/Alien-Barrens, Blackmarsh/swamp-jungle

    Daggerfall has the Breton area which is medieval fantasy / European style, the barrens/rocky area from the orcs and desert from the Redguards

    While the Dominion featueres some tropic/island environment, and large forrests... i think The Dominion area while very beautiful might be the "least diverse"

  • Nemesis7884Nemesis7884 ZurichPosts: 879Member Uncommon
    Originally posted by evilastro

    AD (high elves) have the best racial for magic users (6% more frost, fire, lightning damage). So anyone wanting to focus on Destruction Staff will want to be one.

     

    Daggerfall covenant has the most balanced racials across the faction, with suitable races for tanks (Orcs), casters (Bretons) and melee DPS (Redguard).

    Ebonheart lacks a decent caster race (Dunmer being the closest, but not matching High Elves or Bretons).

    AD lacks a decent tank race (Both Wood Elves and Khajiit are more melee DPS).

     

    I think players who didn't pre-order and are wanting to be caster DPS in EP and DC will be seriously disadvantaged by not being able to choose High Elves. 6% flat increase isn't exactly a trivial boost, the melee dps and tank choices by comparison aren't that meaningful (although the extra health for tanks is obviously desirable).   

    IMO they should add the 6% damage increase to both Bretons and Dark Elves, or remove it from High Elves (and the fire boost from Dark Elves) and give them something else.

     

     

    on the other hand, dunmer dragon knight make by far the best fire mages...and fire is especially useful against vampires

  • evilastroevilastro EdinburghPosts: 4,270Member
    Originally posted by Nemesis7884
    Originally posted by evilastro

    AD (high elves) have the best racial for magic users (6% more frost, fire, lightning damage). So anyone wanting to focus on Destruction Staff will want to be one.

     

    Daggerfall covenant has the most balanced racials across the faction, with suitable races for tanks (Orcs), casters (Bretons) and melee DPS (Redguard).

    Ebonheart lacks a decent caster race (Dunmer being the closest, but not matching High Elves or Bretons).

    AD lacks a decent tank race (Both Wood Elves and Khajiit are more melee DPS).

     

    I think players who didn't pre-order and are wanting to be caster DPS in EP and DC will be seriously disadvantaged by not being able to choose High Elves. 6% flat increase isn't exactly a trivial boost, the melee dps and tank choices by comparison aren't that meaningful (although the extra health for tanks is obviously desirable).   

    IMO they should add the 6% damage increase to both Bretons and Dark Elves, or remove it from High Elves (and the fire boost from Dark Elves) and give them something else.

     

     

    on the other hand, dunmer dragon knight make by far the best fire mages...and fire is especially useful against vampires

     

    I still think High Elves would make better DKs if you are focusing on fire, they get 6% boost, and more mana regen which is useful for DKs. They just miss out on 6% more stamina and some fire resistance to get 3% more fire damage and increased mana regen.

  • A1learjetA1learjet Griffith, INPosts: 121Member

    IMO  good game play by the players will be OP at launch  in several betas I've been on many factions  and each can do well but in almost every case it came down to good/voice chat using players  and skilled players.

    But for Population  Ebon Hear  due to Morrowin/Skyrim   at launch will get the draw

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  • evilastroevilastro EdinburghPosts: 4,270Member
    Originally posted by Nemesis7884

    I am looking at the landscapes which most interest me but plan on playing a class for each faction to 50.

    No need, you can play through all the other faction areas once you are 50.

  • ComafComaf Chicago, ILPosts: 1,154Member Common
    Originally posted by Flyte27

    I'm pretty sure the aldmeri dominion will be the most popular do to the races and also the prettier landscape.  I don't know if that will give it an advantage or not.  Most games I've played people like elves and forests.

    The ebonheart pack will come in second as it has races people will like to play and has SKyrim.

    I'm planning to play the daggerfall covenant and I think it will be the least played with it's races and starting setting.  The setting seems a little different then what I'm used to playing with Skyrim and Oblivion. 

    Huge advantage.

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  • CouganCougan DoncasterPosts: 394Member
    Originally posted by bcbully
    Originally posted by Jean-Luc_Picard
    It's no big secret now the NDA is gone. Ebonheart's going to be the most popular faction.

    I thought the same after my first beta weekend on with Ebonheart, last beta weekend it was the Blue guys (daggerfall?). Maybe just my campaign, but we got stomped Friday might lol.

    Yeah I was in DC and saw something similar. It was the AD who were in the worst position on the campaigns I tried as they fell to just a single keep or so at times and lost their scroll. EP consistently did ok and were never seriously threatened as far as I could tell.

     

    Beta weekends will probably be different to after launch though of course.

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