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Angry Joe reviews ESO Beta

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  • AmegashieAmegashie naPosts: 282Member Uncommon
    Originally posted by Ineveraskforthis

    While i do agree the combat can gets kinda bland at time, but isn't it commonly found in every Elder Scrolls game? I mean this ain't witcher or dragon age.

     

    Unlike the solo player ES games ESO is not competing with just two or three decent RPG franchises though. 

     

    The MMO market is heavily oversaturated and the competition cutthroat. Throwing a substandard combat system at players is a very bad idea, especially if the PvE part of your game is generic f2p stuff and you'll rely on RvR being a big hit.

  • lunatiquezlunatiquez San Fransisco, CAPosts: 381Member
    I think the combat is lacking compared to previous TES games. There's this annoying pause on each of my hit.
  • funyahnsfunyahns michigan city, INPosts: 315Member
    Originally posted by shadow9d9
    Originally posted by Aeander
    Originally posted by muffins89

     


    Originally posted by Nevulus
    That's why I am a fan of his reviews. He calls it as it is, always has & always will.

     

    he said guild wars 2 was amazing.

    And, for him, and others (myself included) it IS amazing.

     

    Angry Joe has never steered me wrong on a game.

    A game where you hit max level in a few weeks, just to exist in some tiny, on the rail zones, is amazing to you?  I think I understand why this genre has been stagnant for near a decade now...

     It is a fun game for what you pay on it.  If you go into gw2 and expect it to be a main game that you are going to put 40 hours or so a week into it then you may not get a lot out of it.  I find it good for when I am between other games or if I want to fool around for a while.  Blaming people who like GW2 for the downward trend of MMO's is just patently wrong.  For the most part because it is still really new, the other because while WoW itself is solid game people ripping it off again and again is a major problem.  The other being consumers buying any mmo no matter the warning signs about how bad it is going to be.

  • TalemireTalemire Clearwater, FLPosts: 756Member

    I don't have much to say about it really. All I've seen and read so far has just resulted in a "meh..." for me. What I can say though is, given the pros and cons presented and what I've seen, I'm gonna give this one the 6-month sink or swim, then decide whether or not I want to jump on the wagon.

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  • FrodoFraginsFrodoFragins Manchester, NHPosts: 2,926Member Uncommon
    Originally posted by Mpfive
    Originally posted by Blazer6992

    I agree with him, it should be free.

     

    No where in the video did he say it should be free, what video where you watching...

    start watching at 18:50

  • ThomasN7ThomasN7 87.18.7.148 1, NJPosts: 6,690Member
    I like AngeyJoe's assessment because like always he is brutally honest. So it looks like this one will tank hard unless the pvp is worth 15 bucks a month. It just doesn't sound very promising. Next...
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  • KuinnKuinn MestaPosts: 2,093Member
    Originally posted by Torvaldr
    Originally posted by muffins89
    Originally posted by Nevulus
    That's why I am a fan of his reviews. He calls it as it is, always has & always will.

    he said guild wars 2 was amazing.

    You're only reinforcing his point. GW2 is amazing and for just $60. It doesn't gate any races or ability to create a play a race on your server behind a paygate.

    It's not that simple. I cant stand GW2 because there are no factions in it. The open world is boring when everyone are best buddies with each others and the PvP feels weird because I fight against my own "people" - it was really dissapointing to hear TESO will allow cross faction races, but at least it's limited to pre-order and there's still factions in that game.

     

    Not defending TESO here, I havent played it and looks like it most likely end up F2P soon, just saying GW2 is not amazing, to some it is ofcourse, to othes it is unplayable. The same thing will apply to TESO more or less.

  • MMOGamer71MMOGamer71 Pittsburgh, PAPosts: 1,930Member Common
    Originally posted by Mpfive
    Originally posted by Blazer6992

    I agree with him, it should be free.

     

    No where in the video did he say it should be free, what video where you watching...

    22:15

     

     

  • hcoelhohcoelho Rio de JaneiroPosts: 529Member

    Wildstar devs must be happy. 

    I'm sad.... another great franchise ruined in the mmo genre.

  • DancwithDancwith Tyndall AFB, FLPosts: 19Member Uncommon
    After putting my time in, im on board with Joe here.  Everything is almost spot on although i would be a lot more critical.
  • GeezerGamerGeezerGamer ChairPosts: 5,586Member Uncommon

    I'll be passing on this one.

  • besteverbestever prescott, AZPosts: 732Member

    Just his opinion and I don't agree with him. I've enjoyed my time with it and hope some things change and other things get better. I can careless what Angry Joe has to say. One guys opinion doesn't help me make my choice.  So many of you can't think for yourselves so you need someone like this to guide you and that's okay. I'll just play the game and have fun with it for as long as it last. It cost me 60$ the same price as most games.

    I guess you guys like listening to a douche. I've seen a few of his reviews and it makes me sick to think anyone would even listen to a loud mouth a-dd having grown ass child man. Get real. Well I guess I shouldn't expect much from this community, from what I've seen over the last few years its a pretty sad community and I think I'm finally done here. Take care mmorpg.com.

     

    Opinions are like demo tapes, I don't want to hear them.

  • Lord.BachusLord.Bachus Den HelderPosts: 9,064Member Uncommon

    The only thing he complains about are the box prices and the subscription...  (but then we where all good paying those like 3 years ago, at which point every non succesfull MMO went f2p and cashshop)... 

     

    And then suddenly he advises everyone to buy the more expensive collectors edition, just because it comes with a free horse..

     

     

    Best MMO experiences : EQ(PvE), DAoC(PvP), WoW(total package) LOTRO (worldfeel) GW2 (Artstyle and animations and worlddesign) SWTOR (Story immersion) TSW (story) ESO (character advancement)

  • Mtibbs1989Mtibbs1989 Fredericksburg, VAPosts: 2,920Member Uncommon
    Originally posted by Lord.Bachus

    The only thing he complains about are the box prices and the subscription...  (but then we where all good paying those like 3 years ago, at which point every non succesfull MMO went f2p and cashshop)... 

     

    And then suddenly he advises everyone to buy the more expensive collectors edition, just because it comes with a free horse..

     

     

     Yeah... Joe's logic isn't always the best.

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  • MMOGamer71MMOGamer71 Pittsburgh, PAPosts: 1,930Member Common
    Originally posted by bestever

    Just his opinion and I don't agree with him. I've enjoyed my time with it and hope some things change and other things get better. I can careless what Angry Joe has to say. One guys opinion doesn't help me make my choice.  So many of you can't think for yourselves so you need someone like this to guide you and that's okay. I'll just play the game and have fun with it for as long as it last. It cost me 60$ the same price as most games.

    I guess you guys like listening to a douche. I've seen a few of his reviews and it makes me sick to think anyone would even listen to a loud mouth a-dd having grown ass child man. Get real. Well I guess I shouldn't expect much from this community, from what I've seen over the last few years its a pretty sad community and I think I'm finally done here. Take care mmorpg.com.

     

    Opinions are like demo tapes, I don't want to hear them.

    Nice opinion..................ironic.

  • -aLpHa--aLpHa- KrefeldPosts: 852Member


    Originally posted by Lord.Bachus
    The only thing he complains about are the box prices and the subscription...  (but then we where all good paying those like 3 years ago, at which point every non succesfull MMO went f2p and cashshop)...  And then suddenly he advises everyone to buy the more expensive collectors edition, just because it comes with a free horse..  

    He voiced his pro's and con's, he said it should be a F2P and be King of the Hill of F2P games but as a sub game it's just average at best, there are better P2P games out there is how he put it.

    He reviewed/criticized more then just the box price and sub fee.

    There was the combat, graphic, music and content.

    The thing with buying the CE so you can get a horse was actually a big criticism.

  • Heavy-armor-warriorHeavy-armor-warrior Valporaiso, INPosts: 222Member
    Does not seem like he really liked it...
  • SiugSiug TallinnPosts: 1,236Member Uncommon
    Originally posted by Volgore

    Quit that crap after 5mins.

    All i got from that "review" was some guy playing the beta with a bunch of other folks on VoIP, going "f*ck f*ck!!", "dude, dude!", "awesome, dude!" all the way, showing their pathetic eVip attitude.

     

    Spot-on.

  • NevulusNevulus Miami Beach, FLPosts: 1,288Member Uncommon
    Originally posted by Grakulen
    Originally posted by Mpfive
    Originally posted by Blazer6992

    I agree with him, it should be free.

     

    No where in the video did he say it should be free, what video where you watching...

    I believe he was talking about the Imperial Race being part of the CE.

    Once again let me just requote the obvious because some people didn't bother to read the thread at all before take cheap shots at each other.

     

    Edit: because some people didn't get it yet. I think they are referring to the imperial race behind the paywall. It should be free considering the premium price and sub.

     

    angry joe, logical as always. Some people can be sooooo jeaaaaalous lol

  • bcbullybcbully Westland, MIPosts: 8,260Member Uncommon
    No PvP? Well... um.. It's kinda like a pvp game, imo. You kinda need to do that to give a review.... idk...
  • saurus123saurus123 nonePosts: 567Member Uncommon
    Originally posted by Kuinn
    Originally posted by Torvaldr
    Originally posted by muffins89
    Originally posted by Nevulus
    That's why I am a fan of his reviews. He calls it as it is, always has & always will.

    he said guild wars 2 was amazing.

    You're only reinforcing his point. GW2 is amazing and for just $60. It doesn't gate any races or ability to create a play a race on your server behind a paygate.

    Not defending TESO here, I havent played it and looks like it most likely end up F2P soon, just saying GW2 is not amazing, to some it is ofcourse, to othes it is unplayable. The same thing will apply to TESO more or less.

    just saying GW2 is amazing, to some it is not of course

    see what i done here?

    gw2 is the first mmo where i actualy have fun to play with friends without any stupid competition on mineral nodes or loot we got from a mob, its the first mmo in the past 15 years that is FUN go out with a group of friends and do stuff and the living story is still evolving

    i have played these two games and can tell you im staying in GW2 and will be playing Skyrim not some "cheap version" of it

  • RebelScum99RebelScum99 Mesa, AZPosts: 1,090Member
    Originally posted by Nevulus
    Originally posted by Grakulen
    Originally posted by Mpfive
    Originally posted by Blazer6992

    I agree with him, it should be free.

     

    No where in the video did he say it should be free, what video where you watching...

    I believe he was talking about the Imperial Race being part of the CE.

    Once again let me just requote the obvious because some people didn't bother to read the thread at all before take cheap shots at each other.

     

    Edit: because some people didn't get it yet. I think they are referring to the imperial race behind the paywall. It should be free considering the premium price and sub.

     

    angry joe, logical as always. Some people can be sooooo jeaaaaalous lol

    And let me state the obvious:  You are wrong.  He very specifically said, and without qualification, that the game would be great as a F2P game...but NOT as a sub game.  He said this at the end of the video.  He did not, in any way, shape, or form bring up the Collector's edition issues while stating this.  His issues with the Collector's edition were discussed near the beginning of the video.

    Two completely different and unrelated issues.  Re-watch the video.   

    It doesn't get much clearer than that.  

  • Like Joe and many others I also feel the game won't make it as a sub-based game. It will stand a better chance as a F2P game because people tolerate much lower standards from F2P MMOs.

  • PhryPhry HampshirePosts: 6,288Member Uncommon
    Originally posted by RebelScum99
    Originally posted by Nevulus
    Originally posted by Grakulen
    Originally posted by Mpfive
    Originally posted by Blazer6992

    I agree with him, it should be free.

     

    No where in the video did he say it should be free, what video where you watching...

    I believe he was talking about the Imperial Race being part of the CE.

    Once again let me just requote the obvious because some people didn't bother to read the thread at all before take cheap shots at each other.

     

    Edit: because some people didn't get it yet. I think they are referring to the imperial race behind the paywall. It should be free considering the premium price and sub.

     

    angry joe, logical as always. Some people can be sooooo jeaaaaalous lol

    And let me state the obvious:  You are wrong.  He very specifically said, and without qualification, that the game would be great as a F2P game...but NOT as a sub game.  He said this at the end of the video.  He did not, in any way, shape, or form bring up the Collector's edition issues while stating this.  His issues with the Collector's edition were discussed near the beginning of the video.

    Two completely different and unrelated issues.  Re-watch the video.   

    It doesn't get much clearer than that.  

    Indeed, he was very clear on the fact that he did not think the game was worth paying a sub for, and that there are other subbed games that are actually better, however, this might change to a degree, depending on how the PVP part of the game pans out, as he wasn't yet able to review the PVP, but in its current state, its not worth it, and that unless the PVP part of the game is really good, he thought it would do better as a F2P game. Thing about Joe is, he tends to tell it how it is, no matter who it upsets, have to give the guy respect for that. Personally his review has reinforced the decision not to buy, at least for the moment, as i was more interested in the PVE side of the game anyway, which by the looks of it, is a bit iffy, or to quote AJ, like a low budget version of skyrim.

    This is a game that might not be that good at launch, but a year or so down the line when they've fixed a few things, added more and maybe just given it a bit more polish, that might be the point where the game becomes 'worth it'. image

  • jpnzjpnz SydneyPosts: 3,529Member

    Angryjoe and Totalbiscuit are the only 2 that I would trust whatever they say.

    I felt what he showed and what he said on them would mirror my experience with the game; an average gamer that likes the Elder Scrolls series.

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