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  • DarthRaidenDarthRaiden gdfgfPosts: 4,333Member
    Originally posted by Badaboom


    Darkfall is easily the best MMO on the market right now.  Its got almost everything I want in an MMO. 

    1) Sub payment model-IMO this is still the best payment model. 

    2) Boats

    3) Combat

    4) Accountability-Because you only have one character you can make a name for yourself for good or bad.

    5) Connection to character-Because you only get one

    6)  FFA

    7) Full loot

    8) Sieges

    9) Non-instanced

    10) Huge world

    11) No tab target

    12) Some pretty cool dungeons

    13) Weather effects that affect gameplay

    For me these are all reasons to love Darkfall.  I understand for others some of these features are reason not to like Darkfall.  Meh...to each their own.

     

    First, not according to OP. According to OP DF:UW is just the 25th choice you should consider, there are 24 better games.

     

    Secondly, DF:UW must doing something HORRIBLY wrong offering so much but having a almost non existinat population.

    Think its not a full MMORPG anymore and whats worse it doesnt have the potential to become a MMORPG anymore, as hint for a explanation..

     

     

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  • LahuzerLahuzer BorPosts: 666Member Uncommon
    These ratings is from peeps that went nuts when it was about to be released. Old DF fans rating it high as fudge. They then rage quit, and didn't bother lowering the score. This game is nothing but a failure I'm sad to say. I does have some potential, but with AV at the helm it will never take off. NEVER.
  • BadaboomBadaboom Moose Jaw, SKPosts: 2,380Member
    Originally posted by DarthRaiden
    Originally posted by Badaboom


    Darkfall is easily the best MMO on the market right now.  Its got almost everything I want in an MMO. 

    1) Sub payment model-IMO this is still the best payment model. 

    2) Boats

    3) Combat

    4) Accountability-Because you only have one character you can make a name for yourself for good or bad.

    5) Connection to character-Because you only get one

    6)  FFA

    7) Full loot

    8) Sieges

    9) Non-instanced

    10) Huge world

    11) No tab target

    12) Some pretty cool dungeons

    13) Weather effects that affect gameplay

    For me these are all reasons to love Darkfall.  I understand for others some of these features are reason not to like Darkfall.  Meh...to each their own.

     

    First, not according to OP. According to OP DF:UW is just the 25th choice you should consider, there are 24 better games.

     

    Secondly, DF:UW must doing something HORRIBLY wrong offering so much but having a almost non existinat population.

    Think its not a full MMORPG anymore and whats worse it doesnt have the potential to become a MMORPG anymore, as hint for a explanation..

     

     

    Other than Darkfall I don't think anything is wrong with Darkfall as an MMORPG.  One thing I think scares people away is FFA full loot.  People who are bad that get killed and lose their stuff may quit.  These type of people always want to gain, not lose.  Go up the ladder, but don't look down.  This is ok with me as there are a lot of other games out  already for these people to play.  I think this type of model (Full loot) is fully sustainable...which Darkfall is evident of that fact.  

  • DarthRaidenDarthRaiden gdfgfPosts: 4,333Member
    Originally posted by Badaboom
    Originally posted by DarthRaiden
    Originally posted by Badaboom


    Darkfall is easily the best MMO on the market right now.  Its got almost everything I want in an MMO. 

    1) Sub payment model-IMO this is still the best payment model. 

    2) Boats

    3) Combat

    4) Accountability-Because you only have one character you can make a name for yourself for good or bad.

    5) Connection to character-Because you only get one

    6)  FFA

    7) Full loot

    8) Sieges

    9) Non-instanced

    10) Huge world

    11) No tab target

    12) Some pretty cool dungeons

    13) Weather effects that affect gameplay

    For me these are all reasons to love Darkfall.  I understand for others some of these features are reason not to like Darkfall.  Meh...to each their own.

     

    First, not according to OP. According to OP DF:UW is just the 25th choice you should consider, there are 24 better games.

     

    Secondly, DF:UW must doing something HORRIBLY wrong offering so much but having a almost non existinat population.

    Think its not a full MMORPG anymore and whats worse it doesnt have the potential to become a MMORPG anymore, as hint for a explanation..

     

     

    Other than Darkfall I don't think anything is wrong with Darkfall as an MMORPG.  One thing I think scares people away is FFA full loot.  People who are bad that get killed and lose their stuff may quit.  These type of people always want to gain, not lose.  Go up the ladder, but don't look down.  This is ok with me as there are a lot of other games out  already for these people to play.  I think this type of model (Full loot) is fully sustainable...which Darkfall is evident of that fact.  

    No, its not the full loot per se.

    Here is some reason :

    1) the loot is junk in DF:UW. (Lack of  complexity in crafting let you produce just junk and find junk items, also since everyone can craft everything everyone can produce the junk)

    2) due to classes the lack of choices and freedom makes PvP not being a real MMORPG but more of the the type FPS with preloaded cklasses. (hence the lack of RPG)

    Also its not skillbased, you dont have the freedom to choose which skill you want to use and invest into.

    3)  there is no reason behind the PvP.  No RP (Role Play) since DF:UW turned off races and their conflict, no rogue play vs city militia since DF:UW turned off  alignement. Player holdings aren't valuable to PvP over.

    PvP just fits the current mentality of the tiny playerbase PvP for sake of  PvP without any meaning.

    That is just some reasons around combat that doesn't have to do with full loot but explain why DF:UW has just a tiny playerbase.

    The list of reasons beside the PvP is even longer....

    See EvE for reference, the potential playerbase for FULL LOOT games is 200k - 300k (even more since DF is a ground based game with medievel theme wich should be more popular).. f

    Stop blaming full loot and support the game to become what it should have been from start ,..a full sandbox MMORPG like promised and described by AV for a decade.

     

     

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  • AkulasAkulas GoldcoastPosts: 1,616Member Uncommon
    Runescape classic wildy was the best pvp experience I've experienced.

    This isn't a signature, you just think it is.

  • VaporsVapors Fr.Posts: 407Member Uncommon
    How can Dark Fall be better then AoC unchained? I mean its "newer" but the graphic are really looking old in Dark Fall+ the combat looks bit clumsy for a pvp game. Does DF even offer long term pve fun?
  • HolophonistHolophonist Pittsburgh, PAPosts: 2,086Member Uncommon
    Originally posted by Vapors
    How can Dark Fall be better then AoC unchained? I mean its "newer" but the graphic are really looking old in Dark Fall+ the combat looks bit clumsy for a pvp game. Does DF even offer long term pve fun?

    What mmo has better pvp?

  • VaporsVapors Fr.Posts: 407Member Uncommon
    Originally posted by Holophonist
    Originally posted by Vapors
    How can Dark Fall be better then AoC unchained? I mean its "newer" but the graphic are really looking old in Dark Fall+ the combat looks bit clumsy for a pvp game. Does DF even offer long term pve fun?

    What mmo has better pvp?

    Imo AoC, but thats a personal view. Guess anyone has some diffrent thoughts on this.

  • HolophonistHolophonist Pittsburgh, PAPosts: 2,086Member Uncommon
    Originally posted by Vapors
    Originally posted by Holophonist
    Originally posted by Vapors
    How can Dark Fall be better then AoC unchained? I mean its "newer" but the graphic are really looking old in Dark Fall+ the combat looks bit clumsy for a pvp game. Does DF even offer long term pve fun?

    What mmo has better pvp?

    Imo AoC, but thats a personal view. Guess anyone has some diffrent thoughts on this.

    Isn't that a tab-targeting system? I'm just not sure how you can say DF is clumsy.

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