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Price of Digital download

WindamereWindamere Salisbury, NCPosts: 59Member

After pre-ordering the Digital download Standard I started doing some research on the Digital vs. Physical box.

After finding out something strange I messaged Customer support and awaiting a response.

 

But the reason for this post is why no one else has jumped up and said something about this:

 

Digital download Standard $59.99

Digital Imperial Standard $79.99

Physical Box standard $59.99

Physical Box Imperial $99.99

 

Why is the Digital download standard the exact same price as the physical box standard....I mean it's not like the download needs disks, manual, shipping....Etc....

Yet the Imperial standard and physical is a $20.00 difference... Seems to me when pre-ordering the digital download standard your getting shafted by paying the cost of production for those who order the physical box.......

 

My opinion it would be an easy fix:

Digital standard $39.99

Digital Imperial $79.99

Physical standard box $59.99

Physical Imperial box $99.99

Changing only the Digital standard and giving those who already pre-ordered and extra 30 day time or something to compensate....Just my opinion!!!

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  • TorcipTorcip Sterling Heights, MIPosts: 669Member

    Incorrect, check and see what's in the physical imperial edition again. That's why there's a price difference from the digital imperial.

    As for the digital and physical standard being the same it's pretty standard and has nothing to do with packaging costs. It probably costs them less than a dollar each for the cds and packaging, prices are set by the amount of money that went into development which is the same whether they sell it digitally or retail.

  • asrlohzasrlohz UddevallaPosts: 645Member

    The digital standard edition also includes 5 days of early access, the retail edition contains 3. So if anything you get more out of purchasing the standard edition digitally.

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  • ste2000ste2000 londonPosts: 4,706Member Uncommon

    Wait until you see the European/UK prices

    Digital Download from Bethesda: £ 49

    Physical Box at GAME: £ 39

    Can someone explain to me how DD can cost more than the hard copy version of the same game?

    £ 10 premium for 2 days extra of headstart, are you kidding me?

  • greenreengreenreen Punchoo, AKPosts: 2,101Member Uncommon

    I'm in agreement with you. A digital price should be cheaper than a boxed price. Maybe what you have found is that the boxed price needs to be higher.

    When I bought Photoshop and spent like 700 bucks they tried to offer it to me in a digital d/l instead of sending me CDs, I told them I would take the digital download but for 700 bucks I wanted a frickin' box at least. They did send me the box with CDs as requested and there was not one manual with it lol Years earlier I got Paint Shop Pro for 100 bucks but it had a massive manual. Those cheapos at Adobe - boo. No wonder people pirate the program.

     

  • amber-ramber-r londonPosts: 323Member

    Bandwidth isn't free, someone has to pay for the massive servers so many people will all be simultaneously downloading from.

    You're also of course paying for convenience.

     

  • EzhaeEzhae LondonPosts: 737Member

    It's simple really and has nothing to do with costs, bandwidth or whatever other excuse you may come up with.

    Since physical retailers still have significant part of the market share when it comes to games distribution they can simply say "If you undercut us we won't stock your title". That's all there is to it. No other reason. And frankly publishers have no motivation or reason to even complain about it since they get the "bonus" profit from digital sales themselves (iirc it was ~10$ on a 60$ title that tends to be retailer fees/profit margin) 

  • DerrosDerros Posts: 1,077Member Uncommon

    is it cheaper for them to sell a digital version?  sure.  Would it be more customer friendly to sell it at a reduced price based on that?  yup. 

     

    Is it industry standard to charge the same price? also yes. 

     

    as the post above me has said, retailers still have a large say in how things like this work, and there would be a large pushback from the likes of gamestop, bestbuy, ect.

  • R.LimaR.Lima BrasPosts: 116Member Uncommon

    You have to take into account that there are different costs associated with each product type. For example, while boxed copies have costs derived from the physical aspects of the product, like the production of the DVD's and the manual, the digital copies need to maintain servers that allow people to buy the product online. Furthermore, considering the physical portions of the product are made in large batches, the price of production goes down significantly. However, I believe the most critical factor in the equal pricing of both versions comes from the fact that a retailer would probably not carry a game that can be bought digitally for less, as it would dramatically influence their profit. Game makers usually want their products to be available at retailers, so it would not be a sound decision, business-wise, to cripple their relationship with retailers. I do believe that in the future, though, retailers will cease to exist and all games will be bought digitally, similar to the movie industry and how big companies like Blockbuster closed down their stores.

  • greenreengreenreen Punchoo, AKPosts: 2,101Member Uncommon
    Originally posted by Derros

    is it cheaper for them to sell a digital version?  sure.  Would it be more customer friendly to sell it at a reduced price based on that?  yup. 

     

    Is it industry standard to charge the same price? also yes. 

     

    as the post above me has said, retailers still have a large say in how things like this work, and there would be a large pushback from the likes of gamestop, bestbuy, ect.

    Good points, maybe I never paid attention to the digital prices since I usually get games from a game store instead of a download because I want a physical box in my hands and to toss into a Rubbermaid container with all the others in the garage.

  • rsealmanrsealman LondonPosts: 44Member
    Originally posted by ste2000

    Wait until you see the European/UK prices

    Digital Download from Bethesda: £ 49

    Physical Box at GAME: £ 39

    Can someone explain to me how DD can cost more than the hard copy version of the same game?

    £ 10 premium for 2 days extra of headstart, are you kidding me?

    And the best part is that on the vast majority of the CDN providers you can get good deals that a Gb is cheaper than a A4 paper sheet.

    Rather have the boxed version, thank you. More bang for the buck, or quid in this case. image

  • IselinIselin Vancouver, BCPosts: 5,618Member Uncommon
    Originally posted by Derros

    is it cheaper for them to sell a digital version?  sure.  Would it be more customer friendly to sell it at a reduced price based on that?  yup. 

     

    Is it industry standard to charge the same price? also yes. 

     

    Funny thing is that other types of software, including the OS from the evil empire, Microsoft, do charge less for digital DL. There really is no justification for it costing the same especially when you consider that third parties take a cut and buying directly from them means they get to keep it all.

     

    But yeah, it's pretty standard in the MMO world.

  • rsealmanrsealman LondonPosts: 44Member
    Originally posted by Iselin
    Originally posted by Derros

    is it cheaper for them to sell a digital version?  sure.  Would it be more customer friendly to sell it at a reduced price based on that?  yup. 

     

    Is it industry standard to charge the same price? also yes. 

     

    Funny thing is that other types of software, including the OS from the evil empire, Microsoft, do charge less for digital DL. There really is no justification for it costing the same especially when you consider that third parties take a cut and buying directly from them means they get to keep it all.

     

    But yeah, it's pretty standard in the MMO world.

    Micro$oft is a different case, the retailers beg to be allowed to sell M$ crapware on their stores.

    Most game publishers on the other hand don't have the upper hand with retailers, so the talks are completly the opposite in this case.

    Retailers are one short step of being cuttoff of the loop, EA Origin and Valve's Steam are doing it, more and more. Will that bring prices down? Hell no, digital is way more profitable for the publisher.

  • Lord.BachusLord.Bachus Den HelderPosts: 9,065Member Uncommon

    Prices of DD are way overpriced for any game.... Developer takes 100% of digital dowload... And only 50% of a box sale...

    DDs should atleast be cheeper then boxes..

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  • DeserttFoxxDeserttFoxx North York, ONPosts: 2,360Member Uncommon
    Industry Standard.

    Does that term mean anything to any of you?

    That's the accepted price for a new game. Has been for the last 5 years. Look at every fucking game released in the last 5 years digital or box look at the prices.

    Stop bitching.

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  • rsealmanrsealman LondonPosts: 44Member
    Originally posted by Dewguy79
    As for those hating on Microsoft your right damn them!  How dare they completely change the way our world runs by creating windows!  How dare they be successful and create great paying jobs for 1000s of qualified people!  The nerve they have.  They should just give us everything for free just like Video Games should!

    Ah M$, the memories. They don't pay enough! Never did and never will. lol

  • RusqueRusque Las Vegas, NVPosts: 2,229Member Uncommon
    Originally posted by DeserttFoxx
    Industry Standard. Does that term mean anything to any of you? That's the accepted price for a new game. Has been for the last 5 years. Look at every fucking game released in the last 5 years digital or box look at the prices. Stop bitching.

    How come they're "Elder" Scrolls? Why can't they be Younger Scrolls? Isn't that ageism,can't believe Zenimax would discriminate against young people by only offering "Elder" Scrolls Online. Let's start a petition for Younger Scrolls Online!

  • rsealmanrsealman LondonPosts: 44Member
    Originally posted by Rusque
    Originally posted by DeserttFoxx
    Industry Standard. Does that term mean anything to any of you? That's the accepted price for a new game. Has been for the last 5 years. Look at every fucking game released in the last 5 years digital or box look at the prices. Stop bitching.

    How come they're "Elder" Scrolls? Why can't they be Younger Scrolls? Isn't that ageism,can't believe Zenimax would discriminate against young people by only offering "Elder" Scrolls Online. Let's start a petition for Younger Scrolls Online!

    Get off our lawn!!

  • waynejr2waynejr2 West Toluca Lake, CAPosts: 4,481Member Uncommon
    Originally posted by Lord.Bachus

    Prices of DD are way overpriced for any game.... Developer takes 100% of digital dowload... And only 50% of a box sale...

    DDs should atleast be cheeper then boxes..

    I feel the same way about technical books on kindle. :D

  • besteverbestever prescott, AZPosts: 732Member
    Picked up the Digital Imperial for 60$ at greenmangaming.com so not a big deal.
  • curacura WarsawPosts: 950Member Uncommon

    The only reason digital is the same price as boxed is that whenever you buy box or download, money go to them. They probably prefer us buying digital as they dont have to share their profit with retailers but they know most people are to lazy to go for a box and to impatient to wait for it.

     

  • deakondeakon birminghamPosts: 583Member
    Originally posted by ste2000

    Wait until you see the European/UK prices

    Digital Download from Bethesda: £ 49

    Physical Box at GAME: £ 39

    Can someone explain to me how DD can cost more than the hard copy version of the same game?

    £ 10 premium for 2 days extra of headstart, are you kidding me?

     

    Buy it at retail? Problem solved?
  • PsycospankPsycospank Alicew SpringsPosts: 36Member Uncommon

    Seems to me that there is a couple of factors in prices for boxed verses digital. With Elder Scrolls online being a cross system game, boxed version may be more viable as it reaches the mass market so pricing is a big factor for how many units that this game will sell for PS4 and Xbox one. As MMO fanatics we often DD  but for the mass market this still isn't as popular as walking into the shop and purchasing the box with mum and dads money. In my opinion this is why the boxed version has been brought down in price and the DD remains the same price.

    The other factor is that a lot of these new games are very big in size and downloading them is not accessible for all concerned.

     

    Just my two cents worth :)

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  • AsheramAsheram Posts: 1,971Member Uncommon
    Originally posted by Windamere

    After pre-ordering the Digital download Standard I started doing some research on the Digital vs. Physical box.

    After finding out something strange I messaged Customer support and awaiting a response.

     

    But the reason for this post is why no one else has jumped up and said something about this:

     

    Digital download Standard $59.99

    Digital Imperial Standard $79.99

    Physical Box standard $59.99

    Physical Box Imperial $99.99

     

    Why is the Digital download standard the exact same price as the physical box standard....I mean it's not like the download needs disks, manual, shipping....Etc....

    Yet the Imperial standard and physical is a $20.00 difference... Seems to me when pre-ordering the digital download standard your getting shafted by paying the cost of production for those who order the physical box.......

     

    My opinion it would be an easy fix:

    Digital standard $39.99

    Digital Imperial $79.99

    Physical standard box $59.99

    Physical Imperial box $99.99

    Changing only the Digital standard and giving those who already pre-ordered and extra 30 day time or something to compensate....Just my opinion!!!

    The Imperial physical edition comes with a statue and a map. That is why there is a $20 difference between the imperial digital and physical.

    http://massively.joystiq.com/2014/01/31/heres-an-elder-scrolls-imperial-edition-unboxing-video/

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  • PsychoticHamsterPsychoticHamster Brooklyn, NYPosts: 97Member Common
    Well publishers have kind of gotten used to charging us $60 for games, even if its cheaper to distribute it digitally its not like they're gonna opt to make more money if people accept the prices. I mean, it would be nice if publishers in general did this, but if they did they would lose money. This isn't specific to ESO though, so why is on these forums? This should be in the general section or something.

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  • WicoaWicoa LondonPosts: 1,602Member Uncommon

    Only in the mmo world is the digital download convenience item a premium product.

    Valve and steam show me that digital is cheaper. Due to no manufacturing costs, less retailer margins, less other misc costings.

    I don't even care about the debate with playable races and content with collectors. I just think the price of the box plus subscription is backwards and not where the rest of the industry is headed. I.E F2P with Hybrid Sub or low price point box with sub or just cash shop.

    If I played ESO and if I stuck with ESO by the end of a year it will cost me 2/3rds (roughly) of a playstation 4. Id rather have more platforms :P to play on.

    Yes I can personally afford ESO but I find myself at a moral choice and am happy to wait to play it, not necessarily at launch or even this year.

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