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Would you join a guild lead by girls?

MeionMeion TokyoPosts: 4Member
I've come to see that many serious pve/pvp guilds in games are lead by guys.
There are guilds lead by girls but they rarely collect good players and form a guild system to dominate the server.
Why do you think it doesn't usually happen?
And would you join a guild lead by two girls (Who are taking the game and the guild seriously)?
If not, could you tell why?

Thanks!
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  • XthosXthos Columbus, OHPosts: 2,628Member
    Already was in one, when I went back to Ultima Online, nice woman from the Netherlands I think it was, was the GM.  I could care less gender/age, if you do your job right and run a good guild.
  • iridescenceiridescence Elliot Lake, ONPosts: 1,486Member

    Why wouldn't you if they were decent competent people? Is anyone seriously going to admit they wouldn't? This is one small step above "would you join a guild with black people in it"? 

     

  • WalterWhiteWalterWhite CardiffPosts: 394Member Uncommon
    Why not. Just because a person has breasts does not make them less competent than a man. I would have no issue joining a guild led by two women.

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  • SinfulChrisSinfulChris , NYPosts: 31Member Uncommon

    Last time I was in a guild led by a female, was Everquest 2, on Freeport. 

    Ivory Tower. Good guild, besides the fact the leader snapped atleast once a month regularly, kicking random people out for bullshit, and screaming over voice chat.

    Wonder what that was all about.

  • black_ifritblack_ifrit des moines, WAPosts: 45Member
    It shouldn't matter what gender the GM is if they know what they're doing. It's just stupid to not join a guild based off of gender.                                           
  • RobokappRobokapp Dublin, OHPosts: 5,206Member Uncommon
    Originally posted by Meion
    I've come to see that many serious pve/pvp guilds in games are lead by guys. There are guilds lead by girls but they rarely collect good players and form a guild system to dominate the server. Why do you think it doesn't usually happen? And would you join a guild lead by two girls (Who are taking the game and the guild seriously)? If not, could you tell why? Thanks!

    raided for 3 years under a female raid leader. It was never an issue.

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  • VrikaVrika FinlandPosts: 2,593Member Uncommon

    Why would I even care?

    I don't ask about the guild leader's religion either, even though that'll likely have much larger impact on how he/she leads the guild.

  • DauntisDauntis Kansas City, MOPosts: 550Member Uncommon
    I have been in several guilds lead by females or with female raid leaders. Some of the most hardcore raiders I have met have been women.

    I would like to give an opinion on this post, but if I agree I will offend people who disagree. While if I disagree my comment will be seen as inflammatory. Either way I will get banned by this site full of the most delicate flowers in online gaming. Ban people for giving honest opinions... beautiful. Unfortunately I still like the articles.

  • RobokappRobokapp Dublin, OHPosts: 5,206Member Uncommon
    Originally posted by Vrika

    Why would I even care?

    I don't ask about the guild leader's religion either, even though that'll likely have much larger impact on how he/she leads the guild.

    huh?

     

    Religion dictates if you position the dragon by the stairs or by the pillar and if DPS goes beind or to the side?

     

    No, the tailswipe does. In any religion.

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  • mysticmousemysticmouse LOVELAND, COPosts: 107Member Uncommon
    I have been in a few guilds run by women or by husband wife teams that where very well run and fun to be in. DaoC, EQ2 and my short time in WoW all in  female run guilds. COH and SWG husband and wife teams. I dont pay attention to the guild leaders gender all that much. As long as the guild is well run and a fun time can be had who cares if its a male or female GM
  • TorvalTorval Oregon CountryPosts: 7,221Member Uncommon
    My guild leader in GW2 is a woman and my leader in EQ2 is a man. Personality and maturity are important to me, not gender.
  • IGaveUpIGaveUp NW, INPosts: 273Member

    I'd probably prefer it.  Perhaps such a guild would be less of an alpha-male rivalry.

     

  • MeionMeion TokyoPosts: 4Member
    Some people tend to think girls mean too much emotion etc. Therefore, they never join guilds lead by girls. I too, think that it shouldn't matter what gender the leader is, just like you guys. It shouldn't matter, but with people thinking like that, setting up a guild becomes a big challange (Not that I'm not up for that)
  • GaendricGaendric Posts: 451Member Uncommon

    The gender of the guildleader(s) is not an issue for me.

    Don't really care about it.

    If the guild is set up well and fun to be in and the leaders do a good job, I am happy.

    Our last guild had a husband/wife duo leading, she was better at it. 

     

  • udonudon Durham, NCPosts: 1,768Member Uncommon
    Originally posted by Robokapp
    Originally posted by Meion
    I've come to see that many serious pve/pvp guilds in games are lead by guys. There are guilds lead by girls but they rarely collect good players and form a guild system to dominate the server. Why do you think it doesn't usually happen? And would you join a guild lead by two girls (Who are taking the game and the guild seriously)? If not, could you tell why? Thanks!

    raided for 3 years under a female raid leader. It was never an issue.

    Same, I both raided with a female raid/guild leader for several years and a different guild I was co-leader with several females in the leadership group.  It was never a issue either way.  Anyone who thinks that girls can't be competitive hasn't really looked that hard.  I know a number of highly competitive girls in EQ2 who are really good at playing the game and leading guilds and/or raids.

  • Kevyne-ShandrisKevyne-Shandris Hephzibah, GAPosts: 1,946Member
    Originally posted by Meion
    I've come to see that many serious pve/pvp guilds in games are lead by guys. There are guilds lead by girls but they rarely collect good players and form a guild system to dominate the server. Why do you think it doesn't usually happen? And would you join a guild lead by two girls (Who are taking the game and the guild seriously)? If not, could you tell why? Thanks!

    Maybe because we don't recruit?
     

    I thought about it on Shandris to make a raid/PvP guild, but it dawned on me I like the closeness of a family guild better...and without the drama (hate raid drama, all that fuss over gear and raging over it).

     

    The real reason for all that fuss between women guilds and all is, have to look at the age groups represented. Male teens don't want moms online. Some get really testy about it. Early adults have the same tendency, and boys tend to just want to hang with their own (just like in Cub/Boy Scouts). Men are more pack related. Women will hang out with either equally.

  • ChthonChthon Syracuse, NYPosts: 7Member

    It's the personality differences between men and women that account for what OP sees probably.

     

    First off, how underrepresented are girl gamers in games to begin with?  You'd have to take that into consideration in explaining why you don't see top competitive guilds being led by females.

     

    Next, I think you'd have to look at the differences in basic personality types between male type and female type.  To say there's no difference in behavior/attitudes/values is absurd.  Testosterone = competitiveness.

  • PurutzilPurutzil East Stroudsburg, PAPosts: 2,925Member Uncommon

    Sure, why wouldn't I? 

    If a guild is good, it doesn't matter the gender they are. That being said, if they are female and the guild itself isn't in good shape, it shouldn't be expected numbers would be retained just like if a male ran it. I guess perhaps its naive of me to not think there are guys out there who would be against this, but I honestly feel that gender should have little to no effect on a good majority of people. 

    Unfortunately I think some gender bias does exist since... lets face it, there are not many good girl gamers. They exist out there, but there is just so few in number that it unfortunately gives off a bias that 'girls aren't good gamers'. I can name one female that I played with that did near top dps in a raid, and dozens more that were just unfortunately not very good at all. Perhaps as time goes on and gaming becomes more popular, we might see more and more good female gamers to really change up that balance. :)7

  • LokbergLokberg OlsoPosts: 315Member

    Sure why not the first guild i joined in my first mmorpg asherons call was a Woman.

    Come to think of it thats the only one to, i guess they dont start guilds as much as guys or sum.

    Never ask whos the leader and what gender it is when i join a guild.

     

  • ste2000ste2000 londonPosts: 4,706Member Uncommon

    It is not a problem.

    Problem is to find a girl that can keep the testosterone levels of the boys under control.

    In real life there are excellent female managers who lead big corporations, but in real life there are rules that allow ladies to develop their full potential.

    In gaming there are no rules, so girls need to rely only on their personalities to overcome the innate competitiveness of the male players, which could be very hard for a girl to manage, that's why there are so few female Guild Leaders.

    But in principle I don't have any problem, if someone is valid it doesn't matter if it's male or female.

  • handlewithcarehandlewithcare hartenbosPosts: 322Member

    YES I like to play with girls,games offcourse.

    they are nicer and more patient,they don't get so angry when you die or make a mistake.

     

  • WicoaWicoa LondonPosts: 1,602Member Uncommon

    Sometimes I think women make better raid leaders as more often than not a male officer or guild leader becomes corrupted by another certain type of woman.  That type of leader then thinks they are a hero in their lonely life, lavishing attention, gold, loot, help, fighting off other guildies cause she plays terrible and talks about fluffy kittens and moon pie over coms on a progress boss fight and.... the guild crumbles.  I have seen this more often than you can shake a stick at.

    I have no problem with any gender being a leader. As long as they are good, fair, don't take sh*t and have the knowledge necessary.

  • DihoruDihoru ConstantaPosts: 2,731Member
    I would join a guild/player association lead by competent people, sex does not factor into competence last I checked.

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  • HeraseHerase LondonPosts: 371Member Uncommon

    It's not a problem, last guild i was in had a women leader, who's partner was also a women and part of the guild. Think about 30% of the guild were female. Tbh it was the best guild i had been in. What i found out being in this guild is, alot of women in games seem to be a bit more mature than men. Men like to throw their weight around and show off thinking there better than others.

    So if i had a choice, i would pick a female raid leader. 

  • monochrome19monochrome19 Chicago, ILPosts: 455Member Uncommon

    I'd definitely join a guild run by girls. It doesnt matter.

    I think you dont see a lot of top guilds run by girls because their are waaay more guys than girls who play MMOs... and girls are generally a lot worse than guys at games.

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