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Originally posted by AmbrosiaAmor Matt Fiore becoming the next James Ohlen!
says the GW2 player
Originally posted by JJ82 If this pre-order deal is a success it bodes ill for the future of MMOs. Companies will start deliberately locking content and developing games in a way that you will have to pay even more to unlock. You hate F2P because its nickel and diming? Just wait, now you will have to buy a game, pay a sub and still have to pay more to unlock content!
Oh my god. People and all their doomsday prophecies. Give me a break!
Yes it could be discussed if all races should be allowed in each alliance, but they chose not to. It gives the game an edge. Like it or not.
Then they decide, that people who wishes to pay extra for the game, gets the benefit, if you chose to call it that, to play in any alliance they want. What the hell is wrong with that? Because of this, some here, foresee the doom of the game. It's so pathetic to read.
And since when is it new to pay extra for something, even though the game is subscription based?
Paying extra for stuff, that does not impact the actual gamebalance, does not bother me one bit. I am just glad, people wishes to do so. That means the developers earns more money, to finance extra content for all of us.
I am no "fanboy", but a player who sees too many bored people on these forums, who can't find anything constructive to say, besides flame a game that isn't even launched yet. Your a bunch a spoiled brats.
I think people who are paying more should get something more tangible. These days you cannot expect games not to make money off everything they possibly can. It's the way things are . We are not going to see things like 10 years before . Things have changed unless this genre is really in the slumps like housing in real life people are not going to see deals. We will continue to see more and more things we normally see included in a subbed game being separated and only available by paying. When you wait for months and then try it will be freely given .So option wait don't play when it releases.
What we paid for and what we get is diminishing for items in demand. It's economics and it's the law of demand and supply. When someone has something others want they can demand the price they think you will pay and obviously Zenimax sees that fans of Elder Scrolls will pay and they would be fools not to capitalize on it.
I have to admit that I'll laugh when people start calling him Matt Fuhrer. I haven't seen it yet, but you know it's going to happen.
Edit: I should qualify this. I don't believe it is accurate or correct to do so, I just know that it's going to happen eventually. The name lends itself to the manipulation.
No matter how cynical you become, its never enough to keep up - Lily Tomlin
Jesus Robert Lashly. I just wanted to read your thoughts about the matter but 3/4th of the article is a recap over what happened over the past days, followed by a lavish description of what the Collector's Edition offers. Only the last few paragraphs of a 2 page (!!) article are dedicated to what the article should just be about: Your thoughts.
Originally posted by akron Jesus Robert Lashly.
I'm just a man, not a messiah.
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for the last time
and yeah, the free to play kiddies won't get it
"just having one small monthly fee for 100% access to the game fits the IP and the game much better than a system where you have to pay for features and access as you play." - Matt Firor
"We don't want the player to worry about which parts of the game to pay for - with our system, they get it all." - Matt Firor
"We feel that putting pay gates between the player and content at any point in game ruins that feelign of freedom." - Matt Firor
and yes, i was in the last two betas and was looking forward to the third but i have deleted all files related to ESO from the SSD
hoping for the best from "the repopulation" and "elite, dangerous" but the future of MMOs seems pretty beak to me
Originally posted by Gdemami Originally posted by Kevyne-Shandris I believe gamers should fight, because where gaming looks to be going isn't a pleasant sight.
I assume then in your twisted logic making money isn't a pleasant sight for your business because there is more and more money thrown on online entertainment every year so yeah, they(devs) do something right apparently.
Not your cup of tea? No problem, no one is obliged to satisfy you.
My business would be fostering a loyal player base without the gimmicks. I'd rather have 100,000 devoted players than 1,000,000 day flies. By loyal I mean they understand that building a game with content takes time, and time to fix 1001 things that will arise on live servers.
If those 100,000 are pleased (as much as gamers can be) not only did I profited, I'm happy to do the job, too.
It's always about quality for me. Seams and joints fitting perfectly. Watch how people use the product and figuring out means to make it enjoyable with less work, as well. Not making the 100000001th weapon or class. Not concentrating on one role or class. Not making big worlds that are dead in another expansion.
It really is only MMO gamers that would make this big a deal out of a human race in a game that already has 2 human races.
Its like MMO gamers actively search out mole hills to turn into mountains just so they be constantly outraged over something.
Originally posted by Xiaoki It really is only MMO gamers that would make this big a deal out of a human race in a game that already has 2 human races. Its like MMO gamers actively search out mole hills to turn into mountains just so they be constantly outraged over something.
As that's the only way devs listen. They do really bad, the gamers will force them to close shop. Look what happened to Ion Storm.
Still to this day it's talked about how a game company with so much potential bought the farm...because they wouldn't listen to player feedback and verged too far from the original game. Warren Specter to this day still won't admit responsibility.
That was 14 years ago, and publishers and devs still haven't learned, as they still all think they're invincible. And we'll see more of the same for that audaciousness.
Originally posted by waynejr2 Originally posted by Kevyne-Shandris "Comparatively $20 for an entire race could be considered fair market value if not an outright steal." It shouldn't even occur. That's like paying extra to be a Pandarian in WoW (a multi-faction race). Imperials have been in Elder Scrolls since Morrowind, and to see they become available for extra cash now? That's the definition of a money grab, and feels every bit like it (as things you always had now must be bought -- in the same franchise -- IS pickpocketing).
Do you want an imperial? If you aren't willing to spend for it, I don't think you really want it that bad.
I expect Imperials to come with the game. If it doesn't I lose nothing, as I have Imperials from Morrowind to Skyrim already...plus no PvP BS.
See, I don't need to pay for any of that hogwash. You're free to be fleeced though.
Originally posted by Kevyne-Shandris Originally posted by waynejr2 Originally posted by Kevyne-Shandris "Comparatively $20 for an entire race could be considered fair market value if not an outright steal." It shouldn't even occur. That's like paying extra to be a Pandarian in WoW (a multi-faction race). Imperials have been in Elder Scrolls since Morrowind, and to see they become available for extra cash now? That's the definition of a money grab, and feels every bit like it (as things you always had now must be bought -- in the same franchise -- IS pickpocketing).
So, you expected DEVs to do exactly what you wanted. Marvelous! You belong to one of the relatively small group of players which is not a primary focus of this game developers.
Let’s be frank, game with P2P shouldn’t focus on players who wants everything for free (I bet you complained about P2P too). You need to find a F2P game for that.
And your opinion is just opinion. You cannot even operate by criteria like right or wrong, because your grasp of things is blurred by your rage.
Those complains are all yours and do not reflect opinions of focus group.
Your desires in this matter are not compatible with desires of focus group.
Your might try to demand something from some other MMO games developers. I hope it will work out better for you.
Originally posted by Grakulen Originally posted by akron Jesus Robert Lashly.
It's so annoying when people don't respond to the actual point you're making and just hook on something unrelated in an attempt to be oh-so-funny. I didn't actually expected you to reply, but this is worse than no response.
I read trough some of these comments and see a lot of negative bull&%^# based on revieuws?
Do your research, and play the game untill the first dungeons THEN, only then make judgement for yourself and you wil see its a lot better then you think, realy well thought out, polished overall good, in MY OPPINION, better then world of warcraft in terms of loot system, WAY WAY better in terms of class build customization. Unlike in wow and most other games mmorpgs where everyone is practicly the same.