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Originally posted by Lidane SOE is going further, actually. They're not just shutting down Vanguard. Star Wars: Clone Wars Adventures, Free Realms, and Wizardry Online are also gone: http://massively.joystiq.com/2014/01/24/soe-shuttering-vanguard-clone-wars-free-realms-and-wizardry/ Looks like they're clearing house of everything that's not EverQuest related.
Well here we go. I think its a good thing to clear the house and concentrate on EQN and EQNL, hopefully the next big things
Condolences to those that still played the game.
It had a lot of good aspects to it. SOE really failed to support it for most of the years it was out, so I guess it's not surprising that it dwindled away. Even F2P couldn't save it.
Hell hath no fury like an MMORPG player scorned.
I was one that got burned by this game. Still have my collectors box to prove it! Funny thing is I just went back to give it another try. Now it's going away again. Figures...
Yeah I figured they would be eliminating some games with the announcement of their all access pass getting re-priced.
But looks likes its going to be EQ everywhere all the time from here on out.
So basically that 're-price' for the 'all access' is basically going to amount to a typical 14.99 (for a F2P game) to have access to the new game and the decade old ones.
Originally posted by iridescence This sucks. From what I've seen it's still one of the best themeparks out there and was on my list of games I am planning to give a proper playthrough to (guess I'll have to hurry up now). I really think it is a game that deserved more players than it has, especially when I think of all the junk MMOs that have way more. But I guess the launch problems and the lack of expansion or update from SOE killed it. If Mr. McQuaid would make his KS just to buy back Vanguard, fix it up and relaunch it I'd be way more likely to donate
Themeparks? You kidding me? Vanguard was the closest thing to a sandbox as there is. No game compares to it. I feel like I got socked in the stomach hearing this sad news. Many sleepless nights, many wonderful memories during that time of my life.
Originally posted by DamonVile This is going to be one of those everyone is sad to see it go but no one was actually playing it. ( obviously a few were ) It ran a hell of a lot longer than I ever thought it would.
^ this, I totally agree. I'm quite surprised it lasted this long.
Blood Mage was my absolute favorite class to play.
The game music was amazingly beautiful, especially in Thestra. (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JCjf28axkyk)
While I enjoy the game from time to time, the chunking issues were always a problem for me, as well as the slow-paced combat and the horrible character models/animation.
Originally posted by Mtibbs1989 Originally posted by DamonVile This is going to be one of those everyone is sad to see it go but no one was actually playing it. ( obviously a few were ) It ran a hell of a lot longer than I ever thought it would.
+1, more suprising that it lasted this long than taht it's being shutdown.
Sad to see it go, but mildly surprised that it lasted this long actually. It just never recovered from the launch fiasco.
The Diplomacy system was one of my all time favourite MMO activities, really was unique. I doubt we'll see the likes of Vanguard any time soon, if ever again. It's a real pity that the original vision was never completed, but then again, it was very ambitious.
My fondest memories were from closed beta.
It was the type and scale of an MMORPG that I always wanted. It's really too bad that it didn't have the time it needed before release.
"Be water my friend" - Bruce Lee
Originally posted by kakasaki Originally posted by Torvaldr Originally posted by DamonVile This is going to be one of those everyone is sad to see it go but no one was actually playing it. ( obviously a few were ) It ran a hell of a lot longer than I ever thought it would.
Yep, this is what happens when people don't put their money where their mouth is. Everyone talks about wanting oldschool, but people don't support that.
It is sad for those who actually did play and pay. It always is.
Or some of us played it for years but moved on to other games. Still sad to see and old friend pass away. No need to be a jerk about it...
How is that being a jerk? You don't support the game. It's not worthwhile for them to keep it open. Yet, we see a lot of posts here how the game is great, game should be made like this, but no one puts their money out to support it. I would say the lamenters who no longer support it are the jerks.
Personally I think this is being done to shift resources to Pantheon, but that's just me.
Anyways, for those who loved Vanguard, please please come on over and help Pantheon
Any mmo worth its salt should be like a good prostitute when it comes to its game world- One hell of a faker, and a damn good shaker!
I had some fun times in this game. But at some point I started to realise how update pace slowed down and just superficial fixes were applied. One of those MMO's with an engine that seems broken to the core.
I won't miss it. But too bad for the people who are still enjoying it
Well i guess we all have one less good MMo to play.
The loss of vanguard is a big blow to us that want a good Hard Mode MMo and there are so few of them left.
Guess the Easy Mode Generation MMo's is well on its way to dumbing us all down.
Originally posted by Torvaldr Originally posted by kakasaki Originally posted by Torvaldr Originally posted by DamonVile This is going to be one of those everyone is sad to see it go but no one was actually playing it. ( obviously a few were ) It ran a hell of a lot longer than I ever thought it would.
Well shit. Y'all took the words right out of my...fingers? Exactly what I was thinking.
FINALLY. She's being put out of her misery.
Waiting on more games to be put out of their misery.
Shall I toss out my VG box or hold onto it? Hmm...
I was playing it though in a "play a few hours a week here a week there."
Originally posted by Torvaldr Originally posted by DamonVile This is going to be one of those everyone is sad to see it go but no one was actually playing it. ( obviously a few were ) It ran a hell of a lot longer than I ever thought it would.
Well, it's not as simple as that.
People want old-school in a game that's well-funded, well-supported and consistently updated. It's hardly a case of "give us anything. As long as it's old-school, we'll take it". The support still needs to be there.
This is why Eve Online continues to grow and thrive. It's a MMO built on more old-school concepts/ideals, and it continues to do well, because it's a solid game with solid production values (even if controversial at times).
Much as I love Vanguard, and have played it on and off since its launch (well, since Beta, technically), it would be dishonest (IMO) to deny it's been on borrowed time. I (and others) could look past its flaws, because it did a number of other things so well. However, it launched in pretty bad shape and has had an uphill climb ever since - especially in a genre whose players are as unforgiving as MMORPGs.
SOE did jump in and decide to give it more love later in its life, but I think it was too little too late. That needed to happen much earlier on, and with much more conviction and action.
Originally posted by bbethel Well i guess we all have one less good MMo to play. The loss of vanguard is a big blow to us that want a good Hard Mode MMo and there are so few of them left. Guess the Easy Mode Generation MMo's is well on its way to dumbing us all down.
Vanguard wasn't remotely hardmode. It wasnt even forced grouping, it was a pretty solo friendly, not too difficult game. The difference being there was the option for more challenging content and the dungeons were wonderful.
People will blame SoE (which is ridiculous) or blame the players (more fitting, but still not right) but the real blame is on the VG coders from Sigil that created a horrible game based on great ideas. The performance was always poor, and you have to think the supposed seamless design was a big hindrance here and maybe zoning instead of chunking would have made things smoother. Also it has the ugliest characters in any AAA mmo. Just using the character creation with those hideous clothes is enough to put people off. And the odd looking anthromorphic races that looked like humans with wolf heads thrown on them and no tails. There were a lot of great things about Vanguard, but it just always felt off. Still sad to see it go.
SoE is making the right move consolidating. It still has 4 actively supported MMORPGs (EQ, EQ2, PS2, DCUO) which are all quite different from each other with 5a and 5b on the way. And yes, I would bet lots of money that eventually Pantheon will be SoE but they cant afford it right now.
Originally posted by Maquiame Personally I think this is being done to shift resources to Pantheon, but that's just me. Anyways, for those who loved Vanguard, please please come on over and help Pantheon https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/1588672538/pantheon-rise-of-the-fallen
SOE has nothing to do with Pantheon, at least now, and hopefully it stays that way.
SOE has never done anything positive for the MMORPG's it sticks its greedy mitts into.