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[Column] General: The Best Hybrid MMOs of 2013

SBFordSBFord Associate Editor - News ManagerThe Land of AZPosts: 16,596MMORPG.COM Staff Uncommon

2013 was a great year for the hybrid MMO with some truly solid contenders coming forth to earn your playtime. With only a scant few MMORPGs releasing, more players than ever before branched out into MOBAs, Action-MMOs, and MMOFPSs. It was a year of experimentation and exploration, widening horizons, and seeing just what the free-to-play market has to offer. Join us as we recount the best hybrid MMOs available in 2013. 

Read Chris Coke's The List: The Best Hybrid MMOs of 2013.

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  • strawhat0981strawhat0981 Phoenix, AZPosts: 958Member Uncommon
    I really want to like firefall and kind of do, but for some reason I can not get myself to play for more than about an hour. 

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  • syriinxsyriinx New York, NYPosts: 1,063Member Uncommon

    I find it quite odd that Defiance isnt on the list.  This site rammed Rift down our throats and is doing the same with Trove.

     

    I still dont quite get the hybrid notion anyway.  Arent MMORPG and MMO two different things and MMO nowadays applies to any game where more than 3 or 4 players play together regardless of if the world is persistent or not?

     

    Seems to me we really need better terminology.  Because a key to MMORPGs is the persistent world.  Games like Defiance and PS2 are not really RPGs, but have the persistent world aspect.  I would call these hybrids.  Games like PoE and LoL lack a persistent world.  And I wouldnt call anything with less than 50 people online together during gameplay (not lobbies) "massively".  Thats just simply multiplayer.  I don't know what the number should really be to crossover into massive, but it certainly isnt 8. 

  • AeanderAeander Walker, LAPosts: 522Member Uncommon
    League of Legends, Smite, and DotA2 aren't "hybrid MMOs". Much like Guild Wars 1, MOBA's cannot be called MMOs because they lack massive in-game player interactions (the first M in MMO). They do have large playerbases, but these are divided into small instances (4-8 in the case of GW1, 10 in the case of most MOBAs). Even Guild Wars 1 had large scale town interactions, but, as this had nothing to do with gameplay, it was not referred to as a MMO, even by its own developers. 
  • causscauss sonnegaPosts: 668Member
    I play Marvel Heroes because the of the article posted last week. It really is a fun game and a nice timesink. The game has a certain vibe and flow which I dig.  
  • DamonVileDamonVile Vancouver, BCPosts: 4,818Member

    I've never heard of warface. I guess I know what I'll be trying out this weekend.

    I think you have a good list. hybrid mmo is an interesting name for the types of games you've picked. I like it better than just mmo. I'm not all that hung up on what an mmo is but hybrid does warn the reader that it's something other than just an mmo.

    The order of these lists never really matters much to me but I agree they all belong on a list of this type ( well othe rthan #10 because I know nothing about it yet :) )

  • KratierKratier Riverton, NJPosts: 71Member
    a moba is not massively multiplayer, its instanced multiplayer
  • CaskioCaskio Abilene, TXPosts: 339Member
    if these are all MMOs, then every multiplayer game ever, is an MMO

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  • akronakron NewshirePosts: 38Member
    Have to agree with the others here. It's nothing short of silly to label MOBA-games as MMO's.
  • LanfeaLanfea EssenPosts: 219Member Uncommon

    1) 'the best'? games with a p2w shop doesn't deserve to be called 'the best' in anything unless its a award about 'the best unmoral and unethical games of the year ....'!

    2) as many others claimed before. moba-games aren't mmo's. also warface doesn't belong in this category. same for world of tanks and war thunder.

    3) please define 'hybrid', because mmorpg.com itself defines 'hybrid' as a mmorpg that provide players with themepark- and sandboxelements.

     

  • davc123davc123 sloPosts: 371Member
    POE ftw ! best game
  • GeezerGamerGeezerGamer ChairPosts: 5,587Member Uncommon
    Originally posted by syriinx

    I find it quite odd that Defiance isnt on the list.  This site rammed Rift down our throats and is doing the same with Trove.

     

    I still dont quite get the hybrid notion anyway.  Arent MMORPG and MMO two different things and MMO nowadays applies to any game where more than 3 or 4 players play together regardless of if the world is persistent or not?

     

    Seems to me we really need better terminology.  Because a key to MMORPGs is the persistent world.  Games like Defiance and PS2 are not really RPGs, but have the persistent world aspect.  I would call these hybrids.  Games like PoE and LoL lack a persistent world.  And I wouldnt call anything with less than 50 people online together during gameplay (not lobbies) "massively".  Thats just simply multiplayer.  I don't know what the number should really be to crossover into massive, but it certainly isnt 8. 

    I think the terminology and definitions of MMOs and MOBAs depend greatly on the advertising dollars spent at MMORPG.com

    Half that list shouldn't even be considered or featured on this site. This site is MMORPG.com. If we are going to call MOBAs relevant due to the high overlap of player base then hell, let's feature Minecraft here too.
  • TibernicuspaTibernicuspa Amherest, MAPosts: 1,198Member

    How the hell is Planetside 2 a hybrid MMO?

     

    It's more MMO(even more MMORPG) than most so called MMOs these days (looking at you, SWTOR, Neverwinter, Rift, and all that gang).

    It has no instances and allows thousands to play together in the same space.

  • syriinxsyriinx New York, NYPosts: 1,063Member Uncommon
    Originally posted by Tibernicuspa

    How the hell is Planetside 2 a hybrid MMO?

     

    It's more MMO(even more MMORPG) than most so called MMOs these days (looking at you, SWTOR, Neverwinter, Rift, and all that gang).

    It has no instances and allows thousands to play together in the same space.

    Because it is a FPS.  And it does blend MMORPG with FPS mechanics and is exactly what i would consider a hybrid

  • KyleranKyleran Tampa, FLPosts: 19,991Member Uncommon

    Hybrid MMO's, great another term for the new year to argue about.

    But it is sort of accurate, in a certain way, and sets them a part from virtual world style games which the term MMORPG normally is associated with.

    Maybe they could change the name of the site to HMMORPG.com

    In my day MMORPG's were so hard we fought our way through dungeons in the snow, uphill both ways.
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  • GeezerGamerGeezerGamer ChairPosts: 5,587Member Uncommon
    Originally posted by Kyleran

    Hybrid MMO's, great another term for the new year to argue about.

    But it is sort of accurate, in a certain way, and sets them a part from virtual world style games which the term MMORPG normally is associated with.

    Maybe they could change the name of the site to HMMORPG.com

    Or maybe:

    ARRAOG

    Anything Remotely Resembling An Online Game

  • IGaveUpIGaveUp NW, INPosts: 273Member
    Originally posted by Kyleran

    Hybrid MMO's, great another term for the new year to argue about.

    But it is sort of accurate, in a certain way, and sets them a part from virtual world style games which the term MMORPG normally is associated with.

    Maybe they could change the name of the site to HMMORPG.com

     

    I am far closer to being an MMORPG purist than I am to being a new-generation MMO means anything online style person, and I too am comfortable with the term MMO Hybrid.

     

    After all if MMORPG is an RPG in an MMO framework, and MMOFPS is an FPS in an MMO framework, then MMO-Hybrid means MMO framework with something fused into it.

     

    Somewhat of a slippery slope, because my multiplayer farming game that I play on Android would fit.  One persistent world, huge number of players (tens of thousands), publisher run servers.  It even has crafting :-)

     

  • GeezerGamerGeezerGamer ChairPosts: 5,587Member Uncommon
    Originally posted by RealmLordsKen
    Originally posted by Kyleran

    Hybrid MMO's, great another term for the new year to argue about.

    But it is sort of accurate, in a certain way, and sets them a part from virtual world style games which the term MMORPG normally is associated with.

    Maybe they could change the name of the site to HMMORPG.com

     

    I am far closer to being an MMORPG purist than I am to being a new-generation MMO means anything online style person, and I too am comfortable with the term MMO Hybrid.

     

    After all if MMORPG is an RPG in an MMO framework, and MMOFPS is an FPS in an MMO framework, then MMO-Hybrid means MMO framework with something fused into it.

     

    Somewhat of a slippery slope, because my multiplayer farming game that I play on Android would fit.  One persistent world, huge number of players (tens of thousands), publisher run servers.  It even has crafting :-)

     

    One of the issue with these terms is that "Massively" is relatively subjective

  • NecroneusNecroneus CeutaPosts: 40Member Uncommon
    MMORPG.com's editors telling us that a moba is a mmorpg? HA! That must be a joke.
  • seafirexseafirex gatineau, QCPosts: 357Member Uncommon

    it most be a joke yes, because moba's are not mmo's there multi player games but that is it.

    It is not because you can buy items and wear them to get stats up that it means it is a mmorpg.

    wow the people don't know what type of game there is out there anymore. It is a shame . 

  • TibernicuspaTibernicuspa Amherest, MAPosts: 1,198Member
    Originally posted by syriinx
    Originally posted by Tibernicuspa

    How the hell is Planetside 2 a hybrid MMO?

     

    It's more MMO(even more MMORPG) than most so called MMOs these days (looking at you, SWTOR, Neverwinter, Rift, and all that gang).

    It has no instances and allows thousands to play together in the same space.

    Because it is a FPS.  And it does blend MMORPG with FPS mechanics and is exactly what i would consider a hybrid

    Except all these other hybrids aren't MMOs. They're small lobby games.

    Planetside 2 is an MMO. There have been MANY first person MMOs, including EverQuest. They're not hybrids.

    If LoL is a hybrid, then PS2 is a full fledged MMO.

    SWTOR is more of a hybrid than PS2 is.

  • IGaveUpIGaveUp NW, INPosts: 273Member
    Originally posted by GeezerGamer
    [...]

     

    One of the issue with these terms is that "Massively" is relatively subjective

     

    Agreed.  Several years back when I had 'Wizards and Champions' listed, the MMORPG.com definition had massively multiplayer defined as 500 or more simultaneous characters in a connected (but not necessarily seamless) persistent world.  I consider that reasonable, as did they at the time.

     

  • Darknessguy64Darknessguy64 Darkness, CAPosts: 233Member
    Oh oh...now everyone will be mad at Suzie Ford for her list..
  • IGaveUpIGaveUp NW, INPosts: 273Member
    Originally posted by Darknessguy64
    Oh oh...now everyone will be mad at Suzie Ford for her list..

     

    Except Suzie didn't write it.  She publishes the announcement.

     

  • jmcdermottukjmcdermottuk LiverpoolPosts: 976Member Uncommon

    As a site aimed at MMO's, this list just dropped MMORPG's cred through the floor as far as I'm concerned. Hybrid MMO's ffs. Plain old MOBA games and lobby based shit get called MMO's now?

     

    This site is turning to shit.

  • GrinnzGrinnz Utica, NYPosts: 310Member Uncommon
    Warframe would've been a better choice than a couple of these...

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