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Is GW2 the summation of all that is wrong with mmo's?
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For me it absolutley is the cherry on top of the Gimme-Bear , Care-Bear , X-Box generation that wants every thing handed to them ...
Terrible Class and Skills ...
Terrible quest system ....
Terrible Crafting .....
Terrible WvW ....
Terrible Character Progression...
Terrible Economy....
Just a plain bad MMO in every conceivable way, and lets hope it hasnt set the genre back 5 years .....
This just sums most posts on these forums, ppl dont try to have discussion, they just troll and flame.
There are many Bad Free games out there that make a profit GW2 is just another one of the crowd .. If it charged a sub many would run from it ...
But it doesn't and they don't.
Death is nothing to us, since when we are, Death has not come, and when death has come, we are not.
It's awesome when you think everyone should like the same things as you do...
But just to satisfy my curiousity, what "depth" do other mmorpgs have?
I've played a lot of mmorpgs and I started playing them since I was a kid but I yet have to find an mmorpg that did everything right and has every element in it set so that everyone likes it.
"Happiness is not a destination. It is a method of life."
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Yeah, but guild wars 2 IS NOT another FREE game out there. You actually have to pay for it in order to play, so I guess that doesn't make the game so bad since everyone who's playing it did pay.
"Happiness is not a destination. It is a method of life."
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Absolutely, without repeating everything you typed, its why that game only kept me interested for about 30 days. It makes WoW look like EvE.
Everything quick travel.
Everything instanced
Meaningless crafting unless its for yourself, which is basically meaningless in an MMO, (play a singleplay game if that's all you care about.)
Auto leveling in PvP
Auto down leveling in zones
Cash Shop
No open world PvP servers
Real cash completely drives the economy
No roles, no class specialization, everyone fits in every role, grab whoever is standing around and ZERG
Every fight is just a ZERG, die run back until Boss is dead
No need to communicate with another human ever to get things done, everything is kind of on auto pilot
No penalty for death
etc
etc
etc
You don't have to do the first thing on your list. Why does everyone think that is such a big deal? If there wasn't quick travel the first thing on the list is "I can't quick travel".
Death is nothing to us, since when we are, Death has not come, and when death has come, we are not.
That fact that ANYONE can quick travel removes people from areas of the map instantly they don't have to travel around the world, nobody is every running past you, it makes the game world empty and also blows immersion out the window. There are other reasons but I didn't plan on having to explain the negative effects each GW2 "feature" has on the immersion and longevity of an MMO. These things basically turn the game into a borefest. No challenge, no immersion, no community, game almost plays itself.
lol yes it is .. big deal you buy the client first .. but f2p after .. same thing ..
I think you kind of missed my point. You can't please everyone. Without fast travel the people that like it can't use it at all because its not there of course, but for those that don't like it simply don't use it.
Your use of the word immersion here makes no sense, since the world you play in has the ability to use portals. They were put there by an immersive race in the world. The Asura have lore and part of it are the portals. /shrug
Thats about all I'm saying on this because to me it makes sense.
Death is nothing to us, since when we are, Death has not come, and when death has come, we are not.
"If I offended you, you needed it" -Corey Taylor
Too funny, yet so true. After my 3 weeks of GW2, I bought Pandaria after being away from WoW for two years. I was blown away how "complex" my Warlock was compared to my GW2 Necro. I was so blown away I played Pandaria to 90 and even did dailies to get my pvp gear lmao!
To me and the couple of real life friends that picked it up at release it was a good casual MMO to spend a couple of months in. I had fun with the game and do not regret the purchase, I played enough to easily justify the box price.
After a couple of months everyone I know and my entire guild moved on. Great fun short term but no lasting appeal basically. I still pop in from time to time and play a few hours, but that pretty much it. Not one person in my guild still plays.
Not bashing it as I did enjoy playing for that short time and may even go back for a few months if they released an expansion. A game does not have to be years and years of constant playtime to be considered good to me. If I enjoy it an have fun for however long I play it then I am happy.
Dont get me wrong I am still waiting for an MMO that keeps me entertained for a long period of time, but casual MMOs have their place as well I think.
Just my 2cp
Masochist!!!
Death is nothing to us, since when we are, Death has not come, and when death has come, we are not.
Hyperbole is the use of exaggeration as a rhetorical device or figure of speech. It may be used to evoke strong feelings or to create a strong impression, but is not meant to be taken literally.
I guess the term is based on your perspective.... this post is very hyperbolic to me and a waste of time. Also I do not think Kindergarteners even know how to say the word let alone know what it means.
You played 30 days? Wow! I couldn't bare to log in after 2 weeks and apologized to my wife for wasting money. The game bored me to death! It was the shortest time span playing any game for me. I even played WoW for 2 months and I hate that game with a passion. I do like the idea of no trinity but the execution just sucks and does turn combat into a Zerg. Not to mention that the only times I died in combat were due to me trying to because it seemed I never would unless I tried.
While GW2 is far from perfect, it's still the best MMO on the market currently.
So my answer to the OP's question is a resounding "no".
I loved GW1 and even after I rarely played PVE anymore, I kept playing PVP in GW1 (mostly GvG). During GW2 development I was psyched about it. I was a real fan of Arenanet. They could not do anything wrong imo. Actually, it is the last MMO in development I think that really got me hyped about it.
I think that the world in GW2 looks awesome , I really like its visual style. The combat is also quite nice. Although I would prefer it to be even more twitchbased then it is now. But for a MMO it is fun combat.
I don't like the achievement craze though. It is as if everything is tied to some achievement bar, which makes the game feel very gimmicky to me. I never cared for them either when they were introduced to GW1 at some point. But in GW2 they just went over the top.
Another thing that bugs me is the levelling. I can't bring myself to lvl another toon. Too few character progression for that many lvls imo. It is as at some point they decided to double the amount of lvls without changing character progression.
Then there are the mobs. I hate undead. Not because they are scary or difficult. They are just overdone. Every bloody game nowadays seems to be about some kind of zombie apocalypse. BOOOOOORIIINNGGG! I really hate their sounds. It is as if you are chased by a herd of cows. Muuuhhh Muhhhh. Not to mention that before I stopped playing GW2, the endzones were just annoying to get through. Just an endless 'snare,knock down, root' cycle when going from one point to the next.
Then the story. Meh. I never finished my personal story. My personal area in the starting city was meh. They also never did anything new with it, even though they talked about how this was only the beginning. Living story updates, meh. I was waiting for new features, not more quests. Where are the guildhalls for example? Why is there no talk about a housing system anymore? Also, some of the main cities are just way too large for the few amount of activities that can be done.
In short, there is a lack of virtual world in GW2 for me. Meaningful activities next to the typical themepark PVE/PVP. I was hoping that GW2 would be continuation of GW1 but then in an oldschool virtual world. But GW2 just is too gimmicky achievement bars based with meh character progression and loading screens. Nice graphics though. The combat, fun for a MMO, is just not enough to keep me interested.
Are saying what he said is not true, or are you saying you like the aspects he criticized?
I laughed
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you can easily find a huge number of new and old mmos that are way closer to that asumption than GW2.
But hey, thats OK. The game isnt for you.