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I'd go the opposite direction and sign a petition to have zero pvp in ESO. Don't want it, don't need it.
Locked Faction pvp is a thing of the past. All PvP should stem from player controlled alliances in competition for in-game resources like EVE does. That is the surest and purest form of PvP that can possibly be invented. At no point should PvP be the focus of your game. You create a hyper niche market in a game like that, pvp should be the glue that holds a game together and makes it better, much like spices in a tasty dish.
Originally posted by flguy147 Cyrodiil is suppose to be huge. People act like its a little batteground or Scenerio. I think its suppose the be the size of the whole entire Skyrim game. Just one zone is like an entire game itself. So to me that is pretty open as in PVP eventhough you cant go quite everywhere in the game.
Its really a open world MMO in the middle of the game. It has towns you can quest in and take over. Dungeons, instanced and persistent world. I think open world fans will be shocked how much they will love this map.
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I would, as long as there's no ill reprocussions from it. I can already see the 'stay at home' gamers sitting there all day. I'd engage the PVP for about 5 minutes daily then probably move on.
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Originally posted by Nanfoodle Its really a open world MMO in the middle of the game.
A game cannot be open world in part of it. Its either open world or its not.
It would be like saying a game is a free for all open world PvP game in part of it.
Which brings up another point. There are a lot of people in this thread that does not know the difference between open world PvP and free for all.
Asking for open world PvP is asking for the ABILITY to flag for PvP and fight ANYWHERE. It is not asking for a 100% everyone is flagged for PvP all the time type game which is a free for all PvP game. A TES MMO should be an open world with open world PvP.
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So . . . go start a petition, why bother telling us a petition should be made?
Here you go: http://www.change.org/petition
Go make your petition. Best of luck.
Originally posted by Rusque So . . . go start a petition, why bother telling us a petition should be made? Here you go: http://www.change.org/petition Go make your petition. Best of luck.
Lol them change.org people. I wonder how much money they make off the backs of "wishing" people.
Originally posted by darkraigne Just to clarify I think it would work as open world free for all pvp with consequences like eve online. Yes you can start a fight in a starter area but before you win some lvl 1000+ mob will kill you and as you go further from the starter zones the penalties become less until you reach Cyrodiil where all restrictions are lifted on the outer edges of the city maybe have a bounty system in other areas npc's mob support to help stop ganking and other ideas like this would make a free for all owPvP experience for everyone.
Sounds like a coding nightmare. Imagine all the heartbeat scripts needing to be checked.
Originally posted by Sleepyfish Really, what do you call this: And this: Or, how about this:
He was responding to this comment, not pvp.
"sadly, these fantasy MMO's will probably not have a first person view that you can actually play in and see your sword/shield"
Originally posted by darkraigne @Lyrian I really don't get what point your making it was like your comments was from two different view points one was saying you don't want PvP and the other was you don't want locked faction PvP but it should be from player controlled alliances?? Sorry just didn't see your point or what you was getting at.
Yeah I changed my mind half way through what I was thinking and didn't quite erase everything. Shift work FTW.
I think player controlled alliances are the way to go with the game instead of locking players to a set faction. That way players can make and shape the world exactly how they want it to be.
That and on a completely unrelated note with regards to ESO I am slightly bitter that I can't play a Khajit along with the human races, because I simply cannot stand elves on that faction.
what do you want, we already have the massive number of triple A produced non-carebear MMOs
Full open world pvp will finish that servers will spread like in wow :
server 1 90% horde server 10% alliance
server 2 90% alliance 10 % horde .
And this is because people are afraid that same nerd will go in lower lvl maps and farm u all day.
In one game my friend and a few more dudes were farming opponent map 24/7 lower lvl map. It was fun for them but not of those farmed. You see because of such people developers are forced to make restrictions because some freaks will abuse them.
Originally posted by darkraigne @Lyrian yea I like the idea only issue with that would be effecting the lore side of things with the factions. Oh I I'm a little raging cuz I heard there was no dragons but I'm not sure I need to look into that.
That is incorrect, the lore would only be broken with cross race factions if the game was set during the first age. By the start of the second age the lands were mixed due to the slavery by the first kingdom which moved entire populations to new lands. This game however IS breaking lore by allowing the empire to be attacked and taken over, with even a new emperor being crowned.
Lore states that Septim is the one that conquers the Empire also in Marrowind it states that the only time the Empires lands are attacked is by the Dominion and the attack is stopped at the city gates. There has already been an outcry by the TES community by the lore being changed and one of the lore sites is holding out changing the lore to fit TESO dispite being threatened by Zenimax that they were going to remove them from the official lore site list. Everyone else has already caved in and added the extra lore thrown in by TESO so their DaoC crap design fits in. That's how bad the game is, they needed to change over a decades worth of lore to fit their small boxed design.......
I wish that ESO had no PvP at all.................... so there you have it OP.
People are different not everyone is a PvP nutcase.
I could play ESO PvP if doesn't interfere with my PvE, I like Sieges and guild wars (not Anet game) but I don't want any sociopath to attack me from the back when I am killing a mob and I have 20% health left (which happens often in those kind of games)
If PvP content is well balanced with PvE content then ESO might have a chance otherwise I think many people will give it a miss.
Originally posted by JJ82 Originally posted by Nanfoodle Its really a open world MMO in the middle of the game. It has towns you can quest in and take over. Dungeons, instanced and persistent world. I think open world fans will be shocked how much they will love this map.
How big does it have to be before your wrong? If it taste like steak, smalls like steak and looks like steak what does it matter if its made of cheese? When the PvP is so large you feel lost in a world with so many options it becomes just like open world, what does it matter? Name something PvPish you like to do other the farm lowbs and you can do it on the AvA map and if not being able to farm low level chars upsets you.. I would rather you were not in my MMO anyways.
Originally posted by Nanfoodle Originally posted by JJ82 A game cannot be open world in part of it. Its either open world or its not. It would be like saying a game is a free for all open world PvP game in part of it. Which brings up another point. There are a lot of people in this thread that does not know the difference between open world PvP and free for all. Asking for open world PvP is asking for the ABILITY to flag for PvP and fight ANYWHERE. It is not asking for a 100% everyone is flagged for PvP all the time type game which is a free for all PvP game. A TES MMO should be an open world with open world PvP.
Never? open WORLD.
If the entire WORLD is not open, it cant be open WORLD. Just like if the entire world is not open PvP it cant be called open WORLD PvP. Its not called partially open world.........call things what they are.
And no, if snake tastes like chicken, I don't call it chicken. Just like if a Prius drives like a BMW I don't call it a BMW. Its stupid, much like saying people that want open world PvP want to kill lowbies....because open world PvP and FFA open world PvP is not the same thing.
Originally posted by Voqar Originally posted by jerlot65 I guess we could reverse the arguement and say we dont know whats wrong with these mindless "anything goes" pvper's......
I personally can't fathom the mindset of I want to kill, kill, kill everyone, grief, grief, loot their bodies, camp their graveyards, misery, hate, etc. Go play GTA5 or something...
It wouldn't bother me if this type of gameplay existed - as long as it was contained particular server(s) and easily avoidable by people who aren't deranged and future serial killers.
Not all pvp players are like this. Even in ffa pvp games.