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General: Smedley: All Access for $15 a Month

SBFordSBFord Associate Editor - News ManagerThe Land of AZPosts: 16,588MMORPG.COM Staff Uncommon

Smedley has added to the day's earlier news that Sony Online Entertainment was considering an "All Access" pass for all SOE games at one lower subscription price. All Access is now available to players for $15/month, something more like an SOE Subscription rather than game-specific.

Hi everyone,

Thanks for the feedback. We listened.

Here are the basics of our revised plan. Please note – we have not had the time to do estimates of the work involved, and also we’re continuing to listen. so this isn’t baked just yet. Do not expect that this is all going to happen immediately. We plain don’t know yet. we’re doing that meeting tmw.

1) We’re lowering the price of All Access to $14.99

2) We’re going to make it so every subscriber to all our PC games an all access member. Basically there will be one SOE membership for our PC games. Please note there are some minor restrictions around our kids titles (simply put – if you’re a 12 year old who signed up for FR you won’t have access to the adult games so we’ll likely leave the lower priced kids offerings as separate subscriptions for under 12 for the same low prices).

3) We’re keeping the 500 SC included with the subscription instead of going to the “pick an item” system. We heard you. You didn’t like the change. The only change we are making is that we’re now going to make you claim it monthly. You can still hoard it though :) I realize this is a bit of a pain but honestly it’s the best compromise we could come up with that solves the problems I mentioned in the other thread.

4) we are going to be giving our [Gold? -ed note] members a 10% discount in our marketplaces.

5) European players – we have an idea on how to include you in this but we need to discuss with our partners.We have a pretty good idea on this though. give us a bit of time to suss this out.

6) Nothing is changing with Player Studio items – you’ll still be able to buy them with your 500SC.

7) Console titles – you’ll notice I only mentioned the PC titles. Our goal is to include the PS3 and PS4 games that we have, but I want to be up front and say that isn’t a done deal.

In a nutshell that’s where our head is at.

As always your feedback is welcomed. Please do us a big favor and carefully think about #3. Our goal is to give you more value in the subscription to make it more attractive and making it simpler in the process.

I really feel like we’re making a good decision going this route. It makes things simpler and gives more value to our players.

Thanks

Smed

So what about you? Good deal? Not? Leave us your thoughts in the comments.

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  • MavolenceMavolence Appleton, WIPosts: 612Member Uncommon
    Honestly seems really legit to me
  • aspekxaspekx Brandon, FLPosts: 2,167Member
    one of the better pieces of news in this is for our Eurocomrades. #solidarity

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  • RinnaRinna Las Vegas, NVPosts: 388Member

    I thought when he said all the SOE games would be free to play and ONLY that sub model forever he was getting senile.  Let me PAY for goods and services rendered please!  That way I can also hold you to an industry standard when it comes to content and fix patches and development.

    Brilliant idea.  

    No bitchers.

  • victorbjrvictorbjr Quezon CityPosts: 185Member Uncommon

    Hey folks.

    I'm not sure if there are any sources showing for this on the site, but I did some checking and found out the original response came from the Planetside reddit, and was then posted on the Everquest forums.

    Links: 

    REDDIT  - http://www.reddit.com/r/Planetside/comments/1ulcav/moving_forward_with_subscription_plan_changes/

     

    SOE FORUMS - https://forums.station.sony.com/eq/index.php?threads/2014-membership-update-from-smed.206411/

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  • SBFordSBFord Associate Editor - News Manager The Land of AZPosts: 16,588MMORPG.COM Staff Uncommon

    You can reference this post from earlier this evening here at MMORPG.com:

     

    http://www.mmorpg.com/newsroom.cfm/read/29592/General-Smedley-On-Subscriptions-One-for-All-and-All-for-One.html

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  • tawesstawess LkpgPosts: 2,532Member Uncommon

    Well sounds good enough...

     

    Now if they can only bludgeon P7S in to this (by lord how i dislike the split) i guess something good could come out of it.

  • LukainLukain WestmeadPosts: 593Member Common

    Well they have to do something for there ageing Titles.. I stoped caring about any of the Titles in the All Access 5 years ago , Now if Landmark and Next are included " They WON"T Be"  it woule be good value..

     

     

     

  • ValkyrieValkyrie Los Angeles, CAPosts: 173Member Uncommon

    Hm. That sounds actually good to me. I might go back playing some Vanguard this way, Dragons Prophet ... is there a benefit for being on Access?

    EQN is part of the deal? Landmark is free anyway ...

    Played: Pretty much any fantasy MMO, some did not even make it to release ...
    Favorites: UO, EQ2, Vanguard, Wurm Online, Salem
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    Anticipating: EQ Next, Albion Online, maybe Crowfall

  • victorbjrvictorbjr Quezon CityPosts: 185Member Uncommon
    Originally posted by SBFord

    You can reference this post from earlier this evening here at MMORPG.com:

     

    http://www.mmorpg.com/newsroom.cfm/read/29592/General-Smedley-On-Subscriptions-One-for-All-and-All-for-One.html

     

    Thanks! I didn't notice that earlier. :D

    That said, this actually incentivizes a return to Vanguard, Planetside 2, and EQ2 for me.

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  • rojoArcueidrojoArcueid hell, NJPosts: 6,766Member Uncommon
    Sounds like a good deal. BUT, console players already have to pay PS+ subscription. Pick one or the other, not both....

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  • RavenwolfieRavenwolfie Minneapolis, MNPosts: 46Member
    Thanks Sony, your more than likely getting two EQ1 & 2 vets back. image

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  • trancefatetrancefate zionsville, INPosts: 134Member
    Agreed, I cancelled my sub immediately when I read change. Giving my 500sc is making me go re-sub before my shit expires :)

    P.S. As one of the players who purchased a sub and let my SC stockpile. Could you tell me WTF the problem with this is?
     
    1) You are still gaining the same income every month
     
    2) You have 100% control on transactions in this 100 % artificial currency
     
    3) How do you lose any money by me holding on to my SC?
     
    4) This (making me "claim" my monthly reward) strikes me as a scam/game to intentionally create a hurdle I must jump every single month, or give you five dollars back.
  • RattenmannRattenmann ReitmehringPosts: 510Member Uncommon

    To be honest id take the 2000sc item / month over the 500sc to hoard,... but the vocal crowd wants to hoard at 25% the speed, so... well i don't really care ;-)

     

    Point 5. A chance to escape the EU publisher by buying station access? I have been waiting for something like this for a while and even given up already. This is like christmas all over again!

    MMOs finally replaced social interaction, forced grouping and standing in a line while talking to eachother.

    Now we have forced soloing, forced questing and everyone is the hero, without ever having to talk to anyone else. The evolution of multiplayer is here! We won,... right?

  • AlBQuirkyAlBQuirky Sioux City, IAPosts: 3,828Member

    This news intrigued me, so thought I'd go check it out. When is this supposed to take place? According to SOE's Station Pass page, it's still 19.99/month, unless you want to spend $179.88 every 12 months (which works out to $14.99/month).

    Is this change in place, and Smed is quoting the massive 12 month commitment, or is it "to be in place in the future"?

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  • PrecusorPrecusor PalmaPosts: 4,733Member Uncommon
    That sounds great,
  • BlackcatZeroBlackcatZero Ottumwa, IAPosts: 46Member
    It's coming soon, right now it's the same old price of $19.95 and soon $14.95.
  • jdnycjdnyc Long Island City, NYPosts: 1,696Member
    Originally posted by AlBQuirky

    This news intrigued me, so thought I'd go check it out. When is this supposed to take place? According to SOE's Station Pass page, it's still 19.99/month, unless you want to spend $179.88 every 12 months (which works out to $14.99/month).

    Is this change in place, and Smed is quoting the massive 12 month commitment, or is it "to be in place in the future"?

    Dude.  He specifically said they haven't worked out the deets yet and they are having a meeting about it tomorrow.  He jumped on reddit to try to quell the raging inferno of outrage they started.

  • RattenmannRattenmann ReitmehringPosts: 510Member Uncommon

    Could someone explain to me why the community screamed bloody murder due to getting 2000 sc per month tho?

     

    Serious question, i don't understand it. I know it was 2000sc per month and would not add up. But are there really alot of items that go for more then 2000? Would it not be better to just get an expensive item for up to 2000 per month and not wait 4 months to get exactly the same?

     

    No joke here, i feel like i am missing something, because i did not find a single person that was happy about that but me lol.

    MMOs finally replaced social interaction, forced grouping and standing in a line while talking to eachother.

    Now we have forced soloing, forced questing and everyone is the hero, without ever having to talk to anyone else. The evolution of multiplayer is here! We won,... right?

  • itchmonitchmon west islip, NYPosts: 1,714Member Uncommon
    if you play eq's 1 and 2 (both still good games) then you're basically playing each of them for 750 a month which is a pretty darn good deal for 2 games both worth more than that IMHO.

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  • ste2000ste2000 londonPosts: 4,699Member Uncommon
    Not a good deal. They need to make expansion free for the subscribers. Until then I will not come back to Eq2. The subscription is not the problem in my case.
  • ShariShari WolverhamptonPosts: 732Member Uncommon
    will EU players need to play on US servers for this deal?

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  • JalitanJalitan New market, MDPosts: 97Member Uncommon
    A smart move by Sony.
  • DMKanoDMKano Gamercentral, AKPosts: 8,506Member Uncommon

    So they are lowering the price of All access pass by $5.

    Why not change the news to "SoE to lower prices of All Access Pass from 19.99 to 14.99"

    This lengthy writeup is unnecessary - that says it all.

     

     

  • ZieglerZiegler nashville, TNPosts: 159Member
    Originally posted by DMKano

    So they are lowering the price of All access pass by $5.

    Why not change the news to "SoE to lower prices of All Access Pass from 19.99 to 14.99"

    This lengthy writeup is unnecessary - that says it all.

     

     

    Marketing....hype....

     

    Still a good deal and liable to suck myself in I must admit.

  • MendelMendel Marietta, GAPosts: 924Member Uncommon
    Originally posted by DMKano

    So they are lowering the price of All access pass by $5.

    Why not change the news to "SoE to lower prices of All Access Pass from 19.99 to 14.99"

    This lengthy writeup is unnecessary - that says it all.

     

     

    Agreed.

    And while we're at it, can we try to avoid phrases like "General: Smedley"?  That's likely to filter its way up the corporate ladder, and we all know how fragile punctuation is.

    Logic, my dear, merely enables one to be wrong with great authority.

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