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Originally posted by Nadia SOE already stated they will have a report system (when they announced Landmark) http://massively.joystiq.com/2013/08/04/soe-live-2013-delving-deeper-into-eqns-landmark/ players can build whatever they want, from sci-fi to horror to modern day themes. However, be mindful that anything inappropriate can and will be reported and removed. I hope they give first time offenders 3 day bans and permanent bans if they keep stroking their penis
Couple of challenges with this approach. First, its a free to play game, so people can just create a dozen new accounts and break the rules endlessly. It will be hard to chase after them.
Perhaps another idea would be to give players the tools to basically put offending plots on "ignore", making the structure invisible to only them (restoring it to its natural state) if they are offended by the structure in any way.
Speaking of which, many structures can look phallic-like without actually being a penis, so who will draw the line between humor and bad taste?
Becomes a big pain as people feel they've been moderated unfairly, so you have to provide a venue for appeals, even more headache, and more importantly extra cost which again, is something most F2P titles actively try to avoid.
Almost think that having an anything goes server might be a good approach.
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I am not terribly concerned about penis' and whatnot in the game. I am more concerned with players using the building tools to grief other players. I remember in old school UO players laying walls of barrels that you could not pass that if you tried to would eventually funnel you into a kill zone. I worry about this being implemented on a massive scale by organized groups. I wonder if maybe we could form a group of people here who oppose the penis towers by building vagina houses?
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Originally posted by RebelScum99 and butt-hole server.
That's a pretty good band. I particularly liked Independent Worm Saloon.
Originally posted by Warjin Incoming 200 foot penis, you know it's coming, trolls will be trolls, I can see it now, coming over the horizon I see this giant erect cock off a mountain face, my question is what's SOE going to do to prevent this or is it OK because it's landmark?
I don't think spreading the word about that possibility on forums does anything good to your cause... I never even thought about making anything immature like that, but after reading some posts in this thread I find it pretty hilarious. The whole drama alone and a bunch of old males fearing dicks makes me want to just put a hard one up majestically on top of the mountain... I think there are even more immature people like me out here that are just waiting for more ideas from poor, fragile little adults like you.
Originally posted by Mr.Kujo Originally posted by Warjin Incoming 200 foot penis, you know it's coming, trolls will be trolls, I can see it now, coming over the horizon I see this giant erect cock off a mountain face, my question is what's SOE going to do to prevent this or is it OK because it's landmark?
Don't worry, after playing Xyson, I can assure the more creative minds have no problem figuring out all sorts of interesting possibilities to annoy others with.
Which I've never really understood why people want to go out of their way to annoy others....seems terribly juvenile, but that's just me I guess.
It all comes down to how fast it gets "caught" and reported by a user, how much time it takes to gether the necessary materials to build it and ultimately how long it takes for SOE to remove it once it has been reported.
Let's say it takes 10 minutes to gather enough dirt and stone(tier 1 materials) to build a penis at a sufficient size. It takes another 10 minutes to properly build it and actually shape it as a penis. It also takes, let's say, 5 minutes to create a new account with a new e-mail attached to it.
25 minutes to build a penis? Allright, fair enough.
If it takes SOE a day for them to get to it and remove it; time spent worth it? Yes, the penis was "alive" for almost 24 hours. See where I'm getting at here, it all depends on how much manpower SOE has and what kind of reporting system they're going to be using. If it gets looked at within minutes of reporting; great. That would make the effort spent making a penis not worth it as much. Although I'm not sure that's very likely...
We'll see though. I myself won't be offended but I'll gladly report it and move along.
Maybe they could add monsters that attack and destroy anything that looks too much like a penis.
Then players could fight those monsters to defend their e-peens.
Made this months ago when EQL was first unveiled:
Sorry, but what was the problem again? I still don't see it. Okay let's refreash what EQN Landmark is about: You build what you want to build. okay, so if you want to build a penis shouldn't that be okay? I mean it's not like you have to build right beside it. (I sure would ; *) But seriously though, it's landmark aka. you build what you want, not letting your son play the game because of this reason is just silly (Sorry) but when i was little i didn't think about it at all, not even all the movies i saw. So letting your son not play because of this reason is just stupid, he can just build on a specifik server with a theme (Where i belive people would build after themes) So let people build their penises since it's landmark and you are supposed to build WHAT YOU WANT TO!
If this was EQN (Not landmark) i see the problem, but then again players would be able to destroy it as far as i know with their abilities. But you may never know.
But it's not more of a problem then what you make it up to be, it's like telling some people to not wear purple because it "breaks" your immersion, but you're fine with them building mechs, tanks etc. in a fantasy universe. It's landmark, people build what they want to, and you can just pack your plot and move it away if you don't like what people around you are building.
Is it just me, or do most of these comments sound cocky.
Originally posted by Golelorn So it'll be just like walking into any public restroom? Do your kids not use public restrooms? They somehow avoid passing bodily fluids during school hours? Which brings me to my next point. Do you not remember being 12+? You don't remember that one guy who could not stop drawing penises? Some of you guys get worked up over absolutely nothing. News flash, your son has a penis. Your daughter and her friends have seen one or two in a game of show and tell, at the very least. Or did you forget about that, too? Yes, there will be some juvenile things in game. But, get a grip guys, our entire lives from 12-30 was spent doing juvenile things.
hmm lmfao when i was 12 up i didnt have any friends constantly drawing penises... wouldnt have been a friend very long if there was one..
Originally posted by Warjin Originally posted by Kyleran I'll be curious to see how they control player "creativity". I recall in Xyson players using their building, excavating abilities in just this fashion, heck there were entire camps of penises.
Omg, guess my son won't be playing landmark, I know this post sounds funny but I'm being serious this could be a problem if they just let us build what ever the players want as the video states lol
Now you got me curious... What kind of harm will a digital penis do toy our son... 0_o A penis is just a penis... Now if people were having sex and your child is a minor i assume you could argue that some form of "damage" would be done as your stress levels would perhaps rise as you try to explain what is going on... But beyond that i fail to see how any kind of damage can be done... Heck if violent movies and games have not created a generation of cavepeople i don´t think a digital ding-dong will either.
This have been a good conversation
Players get to build whatever they want on their plots. If there is any censoring at all it'll be a huge downside for the game. I am going to build a perfect replica of my ass and turn it into an elaborate dungeon for brave explorers myself
Obviously this kind of player content won't be included in the player content portions of EQN though
Originally posted by Scorchien Originally posted by Golelorn So it'll be just like walking into any public restroom? Do your kids not use public restrooms? They somehow avoid passing bodily fluids during school hours? Which brings me to my next point. Do you not remember being 12+? You don't remember that one guy who could not stop drawing penises? Some of you guys get worked up over absolutely nothing. News flash, your son has a penis. Your daughter and her friends have seen one or two in a game of show and tell, at the very least. Or did you forget about that, too? Yes, there will be some juvenile things in game. But, get a grip guys, our entire lives from 12-30 was spent doing juvenile things.
Didn't say anything about a friend. Do you find yourself inserting words randomly into what you read? lol
Originally posted by killahh Originally posted by Kyleran I'll be curious to see how they control player "creativity". I recall in Xyson players using their building, excavating abilities in just this fashion, heck there were entire camps of penises.
just off the top of my head, there will be a clause in the agreement you click on to play that will state that if you create vulgar or sexual, discriminatory things you will be perma banned..
course some people will try, but as forest gump said best: stupid is as stupid does.
Ever see one of those "Things That Look Like" web sites?
Remarkably easy to create them, without trying. Any tower structure can be viewed as a penis, by someone. Or boobs.
Impossible to police, doubt they'll bother to.
12-30? I'm pretty sure most men stay pervs till death. I'll admit it, I'm a perv, wife confirms this by telling me daily.
This thread is awesome.
I don't see how you think anyone can stop something we've been doing for 1000s of years....
It's something that is at the core of every cognitive creature on this planet or ever will be. Call it an obsession with fertility, obscenity or just plan ol boredom. Your choices are to explain things to your kids now or sit back and let them get blindsided as soon as they are school age. If you're up for an interesting read you can try: Why Do People Love To Draw Dicks in Games? for a little perspective on the matter.
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