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How's the state of the game?

Reion1Reion1 Brooklyn, NYPosts: 167Member
I'm just curious what the state of the game is looking like, in terms of populations, any new raids and I dont know about this galatic starfighter expansion but I was just checking server load and there are only two servers that are listed under heavy? This strikes me as odd because I remember my co worker telling me how bioware bought the license for atleast another decade. My question is how will they continue to maintain upfloat if no body plays the games?  This saddends me because I really do love SW and I feel that if another developer was given the chance to make this work that this game would be number one right now. Anyway, thanks in advance.

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  • erictlewiserictlewis Cottondale, ALPosts: 3,026Member Uncommon

    I just looked at torstatus.net as I could  not believe the OP's statements, and well yes I will call them inflated.  Almost every server is listed as standard for the past week.   I would say that does not bode well, and that goes all the way back to November 29th as them being standard. 

    From what I could tell after looking at torstatus.net it looks like the servers are stable for the most part, so you have a core set of players, but your not getting any new blood. 

     

  • FrostveinFrostvein Monogahilla, NJPosts: 157Member

    Depends on who you ask.

     

    They have a core stable playerbase and a bunch of F2P players that rotate in and out.

  • Sevenstar61Sevenstar61 Centreville, VAPosts: 1,690Member Uncommon

    Made a screenshot of the server status from today 12-26-13 at 9:28 Pm EST

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    I play every day and there is no lack of players. Just in each fleet there are 2 to 3 instances in  ~300 - 500 players.

    And low planets are still going strong.

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  • hyllstarterhyllstarter ukiah, CAPosts: 203Member
    There is plenty of people to play the game. It is a theme park game so you don't need as many people as a sandbox. 

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  • doodphacedoodphace Vancouver, BCPosts: 1,815Member

    Its got a million active players a month, of which a little under 500k of those are subscribers. Most MMOs on the market would dream for those numbers

  • DocBrodyDocBrody EldridgePosts: 1,820Member

    Still going downhill like any other themepark, that era will very likely be over in 2014/15.

     

    They don't tell you about sub numbers for a reason, probably around 150K 

     

    and GSF is a clone of a free game on Steam called Star Conflict, just without PvE and less features

  • doodphacedoodphace Vancouver, BCPosts: 1,815Member
    Originally posted by DocBrody

    Still going downhill like any other themepark, that era will very likely be over in 2014/15.

     

    They don't tell you about sub numbers for a reason, probably around 150K 

     

    and GSF is a clone of a free game on Steam called Star Conflict, just without PvE and less features

    I love DocBrody, always entertaining lol

  • Reion1Reion1 Brooklyn, NYPosts: 167Member
    How is the end game looking? How many tiers of raids are available? Have they added any new ones since release? I ask because I am curious to see where bioware is going with this. I hear they released space battles and such but didn't bother adding any new raids. Is this true? If my question annoy you, I am sorry but this game takes a really long time to download,

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  • Blazer6992Blazer6992 Las Vegas, NVPosts: 606Member Uncommon

    Poor, getting worse, going downhill. I give it another two or three years, tops.

     

  • simpliussimplius nakskovPosts: 1,042Member Uncommon
    Originally posted by Blazer6992

    Poor, getting worse, going downhill. I give it another two or three years, tops.

     

    its more resilient, than i expected

    the biggest questions are:

    how hard is EA willing to fight over the IP

    and, how much Money can the competition get together

    its the battle of the suits

    the moment, Disney gets a better deal, theyll just do, what LA did to SWG

  • RobokappRobokapp Dublin, OHPosts: 5,205Member Uncommon

    too big to fail...

     

    sadly the money that went into it will greatly reduce further MMO investments because it's proven to be a poor business investment.

     

    fast forward to 2015 and we'll see "MOBAs are killing MMOs".

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  • LoverNoFighterLoverNoFighter Star CItyPosts: 294Member

    It's mediocre at best. Like it always has been.

    Hopefully it will be shut down very soon and MAYBE we can finally have a real Star Wars MMO again???????

  • DocBrodyDocBrody EldridgePosts: 1,820Member
    Originally posted by LoverNoFighter

    It's mediocre at best. Like it always has been.

    Hopefully it will be shut down very soon and MAYBE we can finally have a real Star Wars MMO again???????

    since almost everyone plays this game because of

    Reason A "It´s Star Wars"

    or

    Reason B "Lightsabers"

     

    this will most likely go into maintenance mode when Star Wars Battlefront III and the other open world SW game come out. Those will have lightsabers and a Star Wars logo too

     

     

  • svandysvandy mount holly, NJPosts: 222Member Uncommon
    Originally posted by Reion1
    How is the end game looking? How many tiers of raids are available? Have they added any new ones since release? I ask because I am curious to see where bioware is going with this. I hear they released space battles and such but didn't bother adding any new raids. Is this true? If my question annoy you, I am sorry but this game takes a really long time to download,

    I'm probably not the best to answer this since I play very casually, but it seems like no one else is so... I think they added 2 raids or Operations (whatever its called) with the Rise of the Hutt Cartel and then I think another one shortly after? Ive never raided, I had a Trooper at level 55, took a long break because of a move, and just now got back into it but decided to re-roll Empire.

    As far as direction its probably the same as any other theme park MMO - more/better ways to get gear and feel like a badass. That being said, if you didn't like the game before you probably won't like it now, but if you just want to try new content there is a whole new level 50-55 planet, a couple raids, some daily mission zones, daily missions that take you to old planets (that are actually pretty fun sans loading times), and of course now GSF. GSF is, as someone else said, pretty much a carbon copy of Star Conflict, but its a fun diversion and apparently in February some new battleground which combines GSF with ground combat is coming out which could make it a lot more interesting. Or so I hear.

    Bottom line is if you like questing and a couple raids in the Star Wars universe, then you will like it. If you are expecting the game to have changed completely and not be a WoW clone in space with great storytelling, you shouldn't bother downloading.

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  • gervaise1gervaise1 .Posts: 2,065Member Uncommon


    As the game passes its second anniversary I think SWTOR had an OK 2013; the word EA used in the summer. Last year preparing for the launch of the f2p option EA will have set out various targets for the year ahead in terms of revenue and costs and - all things considered - I think SWTOR has come through.

    It had an OK f2p launch getting 2m new accounts in 6 months; not spectacular but not a flop. To put the 2m number in perspective SWTOR sold 2.4m boxes in the 6 months after launch and many f2p games measure their numbers in tens of millions but it was OK.

    It (probably) sold 500k copies of Makeb at between $15 and $30 a copy - counting people who came back and subbed to get the discount as $30 sales and the existing subscribers as $15 sales. Again an OK performance but not the 1m sales number that EA used to use as a benchmark for "hit".  

    It only lost 25% of its subscribers between the launch of the f2p option and August. It was losing subscribers before f2p and EA will have expected to lose more when the f2p option became available so to only lose 25% in c. 9 months was OK. (Of course we don't know how many were left).

    It doubled its average revenue in the first 6 months post f2p - of course this included sales of Makeb and the initial revenue that typically accompanies a f2p launch e.g. the one off $5 preferred status type spends. Revenue isn't profit but this must be OK.

    It only closed a few more servers (the Asiatic ones).

    The CFO said recently that costs had been brought in line. Which again is OK. He didn't wax lyrical about SWTOR being profitable - probably because in corporate finance there is a world of difference between making $1 and being "profitable"; especially over an extended time period. SWTOR seems to have met EA's expectations however.

    So overall: 2013 seems to have been an OK year.

     

    Looking forward the prospects for 2014 are - almost certainly - not as good. I don't think that EA will have high expectations. The launch of XBox1, PS4, huge tablet sales, new Christmas games, TESO etc. etc. will have been considered. There is no 2re-launch" around the f2p option to boost numbers, no Makeb to bring back subscribers. Projections will have been crunched and team sizes scaled accordingly. SWTORs costs will stay locked down. And that probably means less content in 2014 than in 2013. 

    Which is what the lack of buzz suggests. Makeb and SSSP were being talked about over 12 months before they launched. Currently the next big thing is .... the launch of GSF for f2p.

    It could be that they are waiting to see how Christmas pans out. What the impact of all the new stuff is. And then they will make decisions and provide a road map for what is to come but currently what there is now is what you can expect going forward. with maybe new ceremonial robe design!

  • simpliussimplius nakskovPosts: 1,042Member Uncommon
    Originally posted by svandy
    Originally posted by Reion1
    How is the end game looking? How many tiers of raids are available? Have they added any new ones since release? I ask because I am curious to see where bioware is going with this. I hear they released space battles and such but didn't bother adding any new raids. Is this true? If my question annoy you, I am sorry but this game takes a really long time to download,

    I'm probably not the best to answer this since I play very casually, but it seems like no one else is so... I think they added 2 raids or Operations (whatever its called) with the Rise of the Hutt Cartel and then I think another one shortly after? Ive never raided, I had a Trooper at level 55, took a long break because of a move, and just now got back into it but decided to re-roll Empire.

    As far as direction its probably the same as any other theme park MMO - more/better ways to get gear and feel like a badass. That being said, if you didn't like the game before you probably won't like it now, but if you just want to try new content there is a whole new level 50-55 planet, a couple raids, some daily mission zones, daily missions that take you to old planets (that are actually pretty fun sans loading times), and of course now GSF. GSF is, as someone else said, pretty much a carbon copy of Star Conflict, but its a fun diversion and apparently in February some new battleground which combines GSF with ground combat is coming out which could make it a lot more interesting. Or so I hear.

    Bottom line is if you like questing and a couple raids in the Star Wars universe, then you will like it. If you are expecting the game to have changed completely and not be a WoW clone in space with great storytelling, you shouldn't bother downloading.

    if its a clone, then it isnt wows

    its a themepark..like wow

    it has hotbars, like wow

    they cloned some of the skills, shameless copy-and -paste

    pretty much, everything else, is different

    either, they cloned something else, or the process was borked

  • doodphacedoodphace Vancouver, BCPosts: 1,815Member
    Originally posted by Reion1
    How is the end game looking? How many tiers of raids are available? Have they added any new ones since release? I ask because I am curious to see where bioware is going with this. I hear they released space battles and such but didn't bother adding any new raids. Is this true? If my question annoy you, I am sorry but this game takes a really long time to download,

    All of your questions can be answered by google/swtor wiki, therefore I am a little curious as to the motive behind you creating this thread ;)

    In any event, SWTOR is now on Tier 5.  Vanilla had 3 tiers, RotHC launched with tier 4 (12 bosses), and they just released tier 5 a short while ago (10 bosses). I would honestly like to see where you heard they have not been adding any raids lol.

  • simpliussimplius nakskovPosts: 1,042Member Uncommon
    Originally posted by DocBrody
    Originally posted by LoverNoFighter

    It's mediocre at best. Like it always has been.

    Hopefully it will be shut down very soon and MAYBE we can finally have a real Star Wars MMO again???????

    since almost everyone plays this game because of

    Reason A "It´s Star Wars"

    or

    Reason B "Lightsabers"

     

    this will most likely go into maintenance mode when Star Wars Battlefront III and the other open world SW game come out. Those will have lightsabers and a Star Wars logo too

     

     

    TWO star wars logos? IN THE SAME UNIVERSE?

    wont that screw with Space/time continuum?

    is that their cunning plan?, to gank us all , so they can just AOE loot our corpses?

    normally, i would switch on the bat signal, but hes on vacation

  • CazNeergCazNeerg Puyallup, WAPosts: 2,198Member
    Originally posted by LoverNoFighter

    It's mediocre at best. Like it always has been.

    Hopefully it will be shut down very soon and MAYBE we can finally have a real Star Wars MMO again???????

    Again?  What is it that makes Star Wars, Star Wars?  It's the narrative.  And the quality (and Star Warsiness) of the narrative in TOR is so far above and beyond anything that was in SWG that it isn't even funny.  Regardless of what you think of the games in terms of gameplay, TOR is far more of a Star Wars game than SWG ever even tried to be.

    Pre-NGE SWG was just a sandbox with a few Star Wars visuals and music tracks tossed on top.  It boggles my mind that so many SWG fans think that because that one game was a sandbox, that means Star Wars = Sandbox, and themepark automatically means "not Star Wars."

    Originally posted by DocBrody

     

    since almost everyone plays this game because of

    Reason A "It´s Star Wars"

    or

    Reason B "Lightsabers"

     this will most likely go into maintenance mode when Star Wars Battlefront III and the other open world SW game come out. Those will have lightsabers and a Star Wars logo too 

    You left out the biggest draw for the kind of people who actually stick around.

    Reason C "It's BioWare."

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  • lugallugal Escondido, CAPosts: 636Member Uncommon

    Originally posted by DocBrody

     

    since almost everyone plays this game because of

    Reason A "It´s Star Wars"

    or

    Reason B "Lightsabers"

     this will most likely go into maintenance mode when Star Wars Battlefront III and the other open world SW game come out. Those will have lightsabers and a Star Wars logo too 

    You left out the biggest draw for the kind of people who actually stick around.

    Reason C "It's BioWare."

    Do not think "C" can be counted as an option, as Bioware only exists in name, all the talent that made the company great in the past, have been gone for a long time.

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    Violets are blue
    The reviewer has a mishapen head
    Which means his opinion is skewed
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  • DamonVileDamonVile Vancouver, BCPosts: 4,818Member
    Originally posted by Frostvein

    Depends on who you ask.

     

    They have a core stable playerbase and a bunch of F2P players that rotate in and out.

    +1

    On this site a " state of the game" is always a loaded question. The most biased answers you'll ever see show up here. Trying to use logic and reason to explain ones "bias" is a bit like trying to push water up hill. You think you're doing a great job of it, everyone else thinks you're an idiot for even trying.

  • KarahandrasKarahandras Sible HedinghamPosts: 1,673Member Uncommon
    Originally posted by DocBrody

    Still going downhill like any other themepark, that era will very likely be over in 2014/15.

     

    They don't tell you about sub numbers for a reason, probably around 150K 

     

    and GSF is a clone of a free game on Steam called Star Conflict, just without PvE and less features

    TBH I think 150k sounds reasonably accurate*and could even be very generous), but I also think it'll boost when the space expansion gets released, clone or not.  By how much and for how long will be interesting to see and could even define the future of swtor.

  • TeknoBugTeknoBug Calgary, ABPosts: 2,156Member

    End game seems like just gather as many cartel items as you can and show them off on the fleet.

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  • doodphacedoodphace Vancouver, BCPosts: 1,815Member
    Originally posted by Karahandras
    Originally posted by DocBrody

    Still going downhill like any other themepark, that era will very likely be over in 2014/15.

     

    They don't tell you about sub numbers for a reason, probably around 150K 

     

    and GSF is a clone of a free game on Steam called Star Conflict, just without PvE and less features

    TBH I think 150k sounds reasonably accurate*and could even be very generous), but I also think it'll boost when the space expansion gets released, clone or not.  By how much and for how long will be interesting to see and could even define the future of swtor.

    The space expansion released a month ago.

  • simpliussimplius nakskovPosts: 1,042Member Uncommon
    Originally posted by DamonVile
    Originally posted by Frostvein

    Depends on who you ask.

     

    They have a core stable playerbase and a bunch of F2P players that rotate in and out.

    +1

    On this site a " state of the game" is always a loaded question. The most biased answers you'll ever see show up here. Trying to use logic and reason to explain ones "bias" is a bit like trying to push water up hill. You think you're doing a great job of it, everyone else thinks you're an idiot for even trying.

    come on..we need something more specific

    we cant rage over something , as vague, as that

    thats like a weather report saying " tomorrow, the sun will shine on parts of the World. other parts may have rainfall"

    the information is correct ,but its also totally useless

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