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Quick Question: Is there OWPVP
Badaboom
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As the title states. From the little I have seen this game will be pve focused with arena/instanced pvp. Is this correct? So no open world pvp?
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PvP will be on the massive content of cryodill (you can visit and sty in if you like at 10) the other regions are pve only.
Which makes up 1/3rd of the world and comprises most of the end-game content.
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There is PvE in cyrodiil as well so you can get your random pvp.
Why would anyone who wants to pvp want to go and hang in an area where the players don't want to PvP....to gank.
If you want to pvp then hang in the pvp area, don't see how not having access to people who don't want to pvp would impact your playstyle.
Those who want pvp usually dont play pure pvp games but complain about every other game that is mostly pve for let pvp free in those games so they can bother people that dont want to pvp at all.
I doubt you would ever understand but MMO's should not have instances that remove people from the open world. Random PVP is the best pvp. This is where the best memories and stories are made. For me, there is no point in playing an MMO that does not have this. Why? Because it is boring. GW2 is a perfect example. Beautiful huge game...but it lacks that edge which makes it boring for me.
WoW did this right with the PVP servers, so the people who enjoy this type of game play had this option. Some really fond memories of the Tarren Mill fights. It kept you on edge.
I currently play Darkfall and it takes it a step further with FFA full loot in an open world. I was just checking to see what games coming down the pipe offer OWPVP. No need to hate on that gameplay style as you have plenty of game options in the market open to you and we need to look harder.
There are many games that are world pvp,why dont you stick to those instead of complayning about games that the devs obviously want to make a pve game.
AreaPvP. Now it seems this area may be 1/3 or maybe 1/2 of the total game space. I a fan of ffa world pvp, you may be able to live in cryodill though, we'll see. I'm not ready to call ESO a pve focused mmorpg either.
Believe it or not as a pvpr, I don't want to pvp all the time. When the situation arises though, I hate being told by some magical being "You are not allowed to attack this target".
Besides that, role play. Seriously, if I played a nightbalde, I would play as wickedly cleaver murderer, quick and efficient. This is how I would make a name for myself. There should of couse be a penal system, that allows the chvalrous do gooder the oppertunity to clean the streets of villains.
In short player driven, dynamic game play. Now if this can be created by being able to live in Cryodill, I'm all for it.
Seems to be a lot of misinformation being peddled about on here. Badaboom - go read this page, it should give you all the information you need about PvP in ESO:
http://elderscrollsonline.info/pvp
A summary of the info is:
Thanks. Sounds a little like a combo of GW2 and LOTRO. Not ideally suited for me and my tastes though. Appreciate the info.
From level 10 on you can play in cyrodil, which is nothing but OWPVP. I'd also argue the best systems are those which allow people to opt out of PVPIng entirely. While also offering good PVP systems for those who want it. SWG and DAOC come to mind. There was no need for a different server ruleset to have the best of both worlds. Play ESO or don't but at least understand that there is OWPVP in the game.
Another thing I'd assume any PVPer would have an interest in is that the engine is designed to allow around 200 on screen at a time with little to no FPS loss, well supposedly.
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An important differentiation is that Cyrodiil actually has significant PvE content as well, and has been said to have greater rewards than the safe areas. End game content will be in Cyrodiil, it isn't some separated zone only for PvP players. The whole game is based on the conflict between the three factions.
Whereas GW2 and LOTRO PvP zones are completely optional and separate from the PvE end game.
Sounds like it has potential. What I don't like about this system is that it's a concentrated pvp area which essentially will boil down to zerg blobs running around exchanging objectives.
If this is the case, it is very promising. I would see no reason to leave Cyro if you can PvE and not fall asleep while doing it. Hopefully it is very large and packed with PvE content as well. Also hoping that it is much larger than GW2 WvW. If they are smart they will put the better gathering/PvE mob loot drops on that continent.
To answer you question no the pvp is not arena/instance based as far as cyrodill is concerned pvp is more open world than most other pvp games.
Like has been said many many times by the dev's and on fansites, think Daoc frontiers. Each faction has its own huge open world pve lands to skill up quest explore the story and ruins, dungeons and everything you expect in a ES game.
Then there is Cyrodil, the center of the world, a huge fully open area full of forts and castles to siege mines farms towns villages citys caves ruins etc etc, tons of open world pvp/pve content you to enjoy. They have said you can go there at level 10 and if you wish you could stay there the rest of the game if you wanted. They said they used the entire hightmap of oblivion for just this one area so you can bet its going to be vast and not something you just run across in a 30 min trip.
Unfortunately PVP is limited to only one zone
Which makes up 1/3rd of the world and comprises most of the end-game content.
Yeah but its disconnected from the pve part which is a big minus for me. I prefer random pvp when doing my stuff. And no, i didnt gank anybody even once. While taking keeps can entertain me for some time, its usually too zergy for my taste and it bores me after few days/weeks. Dont like instanced CTF and i wish implementing arenas were punished with a death sentence ;-). So, i still say ESOs pvp is pretty unfortunate.
Why would anyone who wants to pvp want to go and hang in an area where the players don't want to PvP....to gank.
If you want to pvp then hang in the pvp area, don't see how not having access to people who don't want to pvp would impact your playstyle.
That's a pretty narrow opinion you have there.There is probably just as much PvE in Cyrodil as there is Pvp...
Best MMO experiences : EQ(PvE), DAoC(PvP), WoW(total package) LOTRO (worldfeel) GW2 (Artstyle and animations and worlddesign) SWTOR (Story immersion) TSW (story) ESO (character advancement)
If it's done badly like they did with Warhammer Online, yes it will be a keep-flipping chaotic clusterf**k. But WAR had several systemic problems that led to that:
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Cyrodiil also offers PvE content in towns, exploring caves, crumbling towers, and Ayleid ruins, and finding valuable crafting materials that can only be obtained in Cyrodiil. Im sure you will get random PvP encounters while your doing one fo those in Cyrodil
Well...firstly...
It would need to have an open world . It doesnt.
Secondly....
Your..."third continent" will be a...campaign with players from other servers to keep the population high...but not instanced.....
Thirdly...you shoulda asked this in OT. I am sure they have ripped it apart thoroughly by now.
This is not GW2... there is no "third server"... and there is only one continent.
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