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Darkfall Unholy Wars: Biggest joke of a suggestion yet?

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  • HolophonistHolophonist Pittsburgh, PAPosts: 2,086Member Uncommon
    Originally posted by MrBoots
    It's amusing that some people think that DFUW does not share the same core code with DFO. DFUW is just a version of DFO with some content removed and a NGE style expansion pack added.

    How do you know it does? I have no idea if it does or not, but people in this community love to just make claims about things like this.

  • ilivesilives Fort Dodge, KSPosts: 418Member
    Originally posted by Holophonist
    Originally posted by MrBoots
    It's amusing that some people think that DFUW does not share the same core code with DFO. DFUW is just a version of DFO with some content removed and a NGE style expansion pack added.

    How do you know it does? I have no idea if it does or not, but people in this community love to just make claims about things like this.

    All you have to do is look at it and have played DF1.

    Where have all the "good" shills gone?

  • HolophonistHolophonist Pittsburgh, PAPosts: 2,086Member Uncommon
    Originally posted by ilives
    Originally posted by Holophonist
    Originally posted by MrBoots
    It's amusing that some people think that DFUW does not share the same core code with DFO. DFUW is just a version of DFO with some content removed and a NGE style expansion pack added.

    How do you know it does? I have no idea if it does or not, but people in this community love to just make claims about things like this.

    All you have to do is look at it and have played DF1.

    Wow you guys are like reverse Neos. You can look at the world and see the code underneath.

  • Deerhunter71Deerhunter71 Richmond, VAPosts: 527Member
    Originally posted by MrBoots
    It's amusing that some people think that DFUW does not share the same core code with DFO. DFUW is just a version of DFO with some content removed and a NGE style expansion pack added.

    +1 -- any vet can easily can tell you that 75-80% of the game is based off the old one.  

  • TibernicuspaTibernicuspa Amherest, MAPosts: 1,198Member
    Originally posted by Maejohl
    but after 4 years, 2000 Euros and still no working game, I think AV have had enough crowdfunding from me.
     
    Soooo, one person on the forum makes a poll, and it gets shot down, and you decide its time to start troll posting over here? And then you cap it off by trying to claim that there is no working game? What have you been paying for then, pray tell? And if it doesn't work, why pay for it? I just don't understand you.

     

  • DarthRaidenDarthRaiden gdfgfPosts: 4,333Member

    Indeed 3 years of subscription should be enough crowdfounding for me aswell.

    I also imagined they would have a working game in this time.

    Technically DF:UW is still in Beta because it hasn't all features implemented.

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    -We finally WON !!!! 2011 $OE accepted that they have been fired 2005 by the playerbase and closed down ridiculous NGE !!

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  • Romulan78Romulan78 Tampa, FLPosts: 97Member
    The game has enough promise that maybe a kickstarter is not a bad idea. The question is will the money go to fixing the game? If it does what is the harm?

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  • TibernicuspaTibernicuspa Amherest, MAPosts: 1,198Member
    Originally posted by DarthRaiden

    Indeed 3 years of subscription should be enough crowdfounding for me aswell.

    I also imagined they would have a working game in this time.

    Technically DF:UW is still in Beta because it hasn't all features implemented.

    Technically WoW is still in beta because it hasn't all features implemented.

  • RabidMouthRabidMouth Charlotte, NCPosts: 196Member
    Originally posted by Tibernicuspa
    Originally posted by DarthRaiden

    Indeed 3 years of subscription should be enough crowdfounding for me aswell.

    I also imagined they would have a working game in this time.

    Technically DF:UW is still in Beta because it hasn't all features implemented.

    Technically WoW is still in beta because it hasn't all features implemented.

    Wow, what a sad arguement. Why do people continue to white knight for this game? This forum is about as productive as the swtor forum. Both should be closed because its always the same topics over and over again.

    You can't reason someone out of a position they didn't reason themselves into.

  • TibernicuspaTibernicuspa Amherest, MAPosts: 1,198Member
    Originally posted by CowboyHat
    Originally posted by Tibernicuspa
    Originally posted by DarthRaiden

    Indeed 3 years of subscription should be enough crowdfounding for me aswell.

    I also imagined they would have a working game in this time.

    Technically DF:UW is still in Beta because it hasn't all features implemented.

    Technically WoW is still in beta because it hasn't all features implemented.

    Wow, what a sad arguement. Why do people continue to white knight for this game? This forum is about as productive as the swtor forum. Both should be closed because its always the same topics over and over again.

    Pointing out a moronic argument is now "white knighting"? Calling a game "unfinished" is the cool thing to do when you don't like it. How many classes were mentioned by WoW devs, or are in the pipelines for other MMOs, but not yet implemented? MMOs update and grow as they age. That doesn't make them "unfinished", and that's why the argument is stupid.

    There are people upset at this game for taking so long to mature, and then there are people who hate this game because its not Darkfall 1. The OP is in the latter group, I'm in the former. The OP crusades against this game mostly making things up or muck raking. I point out where people are wrong. Plenty of things to complain about with this game without resorting to using false statements.

  • DarthRaidenDarthRaiden gdfgfPosts: 4,333Member

    The game is unfinished >.<.

    It was planned to ealease with a class design of which 1/3 of classes still missing. It was planned to realse with 70+ dungeons according to the devs thnemselves of which 99% are missing.

    Alone that makes it incomplete, everything else  is moronic drivel from AV shills.

     

    We can also ask the customers which game they perceive as not feature complete DF:UW or WoW.

     

    The need for someone has TO COME UP WITH THE IDEA of  CROWDFOUNDING  is a STRONG INDICATION OF NOT FINISHED in it self. 

    Why some VIP should post an idea about crowdfounding if the game has been working and features were complete ?

    Please come up with a smart and not moronic arguments next time.

     

     

    -----MY-TERMS-OF-USE--------------------------------------------------
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    -We finally WON !!!! 2011 $OE accepted that they have been fired 2005 by the playerbase and closed down ridiculous NGE !!

    "There was suppression of speech and all kinds of things between disturbing and fascistic." Raph Koster (parted $OE)

  • TibernicuspaTibernicuspa Amherest, MAPosts: 1,198Member
    Originally posted by DarthRaiden

    The game is unfinished >.<.

    It was planned to ealease with a class design of which 1/3 of classes still missing. It was planned to realse with 70+ dungeons according to the devs thnemselves of which 99% are missing.

     

    Dark Age of Camelot mapped out classes, as do many other MMOs, intended to release AFTER the game goes live, which is what AV said about their classes. The dungeons, they never promised them for launch. But they DID say soon after launch, which we are well beyond now. Having features planned for post release != unfinished.

  • TibernicuspaTibernicuspa Amherest, MAPosts: 1,198Member
    Originally posted by DarthRaiden

     

    We can also ask the customers which game they perceive as not feature complete DF:UW or WoW.

    And you'll get the same kind of responses. People who don't like the game will say "UNFINISHED" THE GAME LITERALLY CANNOT BE PLAYED. Some people have gone so far as to say that there isn't a working game right now, which is absolute drivel.

    And me, someone who doesn't like WoW could make an argument that WoW, lacking such basic features as housing, isn't a finished game. It's a stupid argument.

     

     

     

     

  • kosackosac Bakov nad JizerouPosts: 189Member Uncommon
    i spend 0$ in this game why? full loot :)
  • DarthRaidenDarthRaiden gdfgfPosts: 4,333Member
    Originally posted by Tibernicuspa
    Originally posted by DarthRaiden

    The game is unfinished >.<.

    It was planned to ealease with a class design of which 1/3 of classes still missing. It was planned to realse with 70+ dungeons according to the devs thnemselves of which 99% are missing.

     

    Dark Age of Camelot mapped out classes, as do many other MMOs, intended to release AFTER the game goes live, which is what AV said about their classes. The dungeons, they never promised them for launch. But they DID say soon after launch, which we are well beyond now. Having features planned for post release != unfinished.

    Indeed having 90% of game content planned for post release and calling that finished  is another way of AV to scam customers. (grabbing money for client sales of a unfinished product)

    According to  software development standards is the serious  world it is called not feature compelte.

     

    -----MY-TERMS-OF-USE--------------------------------------------------
    $OE - eternal enemy of online gaming
    -We finally WON !!!! 2011 $OE accepted that they have been fired 2005 by the playerbase and closed down ridiculous NGE !!

    "There was suppression of speech and all kinds of things between disturbing and fascistic." Raph Koster (parted $OE)

  • DarthRaidenDarthRaiden gdfgfPosts: 4,333Member
    Originally posted by Tibernicuspa
    Originally posted by DarthRaiden

     

    We can also ask the customers which game they perceive as not feature complete DF:UW or WoW.

    And you'll get the same kind of responses. People who don't like the game will say "UNFINISHED" THE GAME LITERALLY CANNOT BE PLAYED. Some people have gone so far as to say that there isn't a working game right now, which is absolute drivel.

    And me, someone who doesn't like WoW could make an argument that WoW, lacking such basic features as housing, isn't a finished game. It's a stupid argument.

     

     

     

     

    Just the game is not working even for DF fans.

    Take the OP , hell take dozens of  AV ex-follower , hell take me. No one near a WoW player and a themepark hater.

    The game is simply not working and most beta testers said IT SHOULDNT HAD BEEN RELEASED at that state.

    They were right and i am right.  Right now its a ongoing payed beta thats even lack the founds and needs crowdfounding till the game gets completed.

    -----MY-TERMS-OF-USE--------------------------------------------------
    $OE - eternal enemy of online gaming
    -We finally WON !!!! 2011 $OE accepted that they have been fired 2005 by the playerbase and closed down ridiculous NGE !!

    "There was suppression of speech and all kinds of things between disturbing and fascistic." Raph Koster (parted $OE)

  • TibernicuspaTibernicuspa Amherest, MAPosts: 1,198Member
    Originally posted by DarthRaiden
    Originally posted by Tibernicuspa
    Originally posted by DarthRaiden

     

    We can also ask the customers which game they perceive as not feature complete DF:UW or WoW.

    And you'll get the same kind of responses. People who don't like the game will say "UNFINISHED" THE GAME LITERALLY CANNOT BE PLAYED. Some people have gone so far as to say that there isn't a working game right now, which is absolute drivel.

    And me, someone who doesn't like WoW could make an argument that WoW, lacking such basic features as housing, isn't a finished game. It's a stupid argument.

     

     

     

     

    Just the game is not working even for DF fans.

    Take the OP , hell take dozens of  AV ex-follower , hell take me. No one near a WoW player and a themepark hater.

    The game is simply not working and most beta testers said IT SHOULDNT HAD BEEN RELEASED at that state.

    They were right and i am right.

    The OP is someone who hates the game because it isn't DF1, not someone with legitimate complaints about UW.

    What doesn't work, mr. I am right? Does it not launch when you play it? Does combat not work? Can you not craft?

  • CaaahlCaaahl LeipzigPosts: 229Member
    Originally posted by Holophonist
    Originally posted by ilives
    Originally posted by Holophonist
    Originally posted by MrBoots
    It's amusing that some people think that DFUW does not share the same core code with DFO. DFUW is just a version of DFO with some content removed and a NGE style expansion pack added.

    How do you know it does? I have no idea if it does or not, but people in this community love to just make claims about things like this.

    All you have to do is look at it and have played DF1.

    Wow you guys are like reverse Neos. You can look at the world and see the code underneath.

    Nope, in this case these guys are right.

    What they probably ment was the fact, that a lot of bugs came up in dfuw which vets already knew from DF1 beta; which had been fixed back then.

    So a) AV coded in the same bugs twice in a row... or b) it isnt a completely new code after all. Take your pick.

    [mod edit]

    Caaahl / DAA KAPUTTMACHAA ---DF/DFUW

  • HolophonistHolophonist Pittsburgh, PAPosts: 2,086Member Uncommon
    Originally posted by Caaahl
    Originally posted by Holophonist
    Originally posted by ilives
    Originally posted by Holophonist
    Originally posted by MrBoots
    It's amusing that some people think that DFUW does not share the same core code with DFO. DFUW is just a version of DFO with some content removed and a NGE style expansion pack added.

    How do you know it does? I have no idea if it does or not, but people in this community love to just make claims about things like this.

    All you have to do is look at it and have played DF1.

    Wow you guys are like reverse Neos. You can look at the world and see the code underneath.

    Nope, in this case these guys are right.

    What they probably ment was the fact, that a lot of bugs came up in dfuw which vets already knew from DF1 beta; which had been fixed back then.

    So a) AV coded in the same bugs twice in a row... or b) it isnt a completely new code after all. Take your pick.

    [mod edit]

     

    Except this is why they have no credibility. That's not a fact. The existence of similar bugs doesn't mean you can say the games share the same code. I have no agenda either way on this because I don't care if it uses the same code or not; I'm just sick of people treating theories as facts regarding this game.
  • SnoepieSnoepie RotterdamPosts: 470Member
    Originally posted by Holophonist
    Originally posted by Caaahl
    Originally posted by Holophonist
    Originally posted by ilives
    Originally posted by Holophonist
    Originally posted by MrBoots
    It's amusing that some people think that DFUW does not share the same core code with DFO. DFUW is just a version of DFO with some content removed and a NGE style expansion pack added.

    How do you know it does? I have no idea if it does or not, but people in this community love to just make claims about things like this.

    All you have to do is look at it and have played DF1.

    Wow you guys are like reverse Neos. You can look at the world and see the code underneath.

    Nope, in this case these guys are right.

    What they probably ment was the fact, that a lot of bugs came up in dfuw which vets already knew from DF1 beta; which had been fixed back then.

    So a) AV coded in the same bugs twice in a row... or b) it isnt a completely new code after all. Take your pick.

    @Tibernicus:

    It kind of hurts in the head to read your nonsense spam. Please stop it, will you.

    PS: If you just dont get it, why DFUW was "unfinished", then please watch the complete video linked in my signature...before you make another post. Thanks.

     

    Except this is why they have no credibility. That's not a fact. The existence of similar bugs doesn't mean you can say the games share the same code. I have no agenda either way on this because I don't care if it uses the same code or not; I'm just sick of people treating theories as facts regarding this game.

    your talking about credibility when you claim darkfall Uw have 20k subs with nothing to back that up

     

    I give AV more creditbility then you

  • HolophonistHolophonist Pittsburgh, PAPosts: 2,086Member Uncommon
    Originally posted by Snoepie

    Originally posted by Holophonist
    Originally posted by Caaahl
    Originally posted by Holophonist
    Originally posted by ilives
    Originally posted by Holophonist
    Originally posted by MrBoots
    It's amusing that some people think that DFUW does not share the same core code with DFO. DFUW is just a version of DFO with some content removed and a NGE style expansion pack added.

    How do you know it does? I have no idea if it does or not, but people in this community love to just make claims about things like this.

    All you have to do is look at it and have played DF1.

    Wow you guys are like reverse Neos. You can look at the world and see the code underneath.

    Nope, in this case these guys are right.

    What they probably ment was the fact, that a lot of bugs came up in dfuw which vets already knew from DF1 beta; which had been fixed back then.

    So a) AV coded in the same bugs twice in a row... or b) it isnt a completely new code after all. Take your pick.

    @Tibernicus:

    It kind of hurts in the head to read your nonsense spam. Please stop it, will you.

    PS: If you just dont get it, why DFUW was "unfinished", then please watch the complete video linked in my signature...before you make another post. Thanks.

     

    Except this is why they have no credibility. That's not a fact. The existence of similar bugs doesn't mean you can say the games share the same code. I have no agenda either way on this because I don't care if it uses the same code or not; I'm just sick of people treating theories as facts regarding this game.

    your talking about credibility when you claim darkfall Uw have 20k subs with nothing to back that up

     

    I give AV more creditbility then you

     

    Actually I never claimed any such thing.
  • CaaahlCaaahl LeipzigPosts: 229Member
    Originally posted by Snoepie
    Originally posted by Holophonist
    Originally posted by Caaahl
    Originally posted by Holophonist
    Originally posted by ilives
    Originally posted by Holophonist
    Originally posted by MrBoots
    It's amusing that some people think that DFUW does not share the same core code with DFO. DFUW is just a version of DFO with some content removed and a NGE style expansion pack added.

    How do you know it does? I have no idea if it does or not, but people in this community love to just make claims about things like this.

    All you have to do is look at it and have played DF1.

    Wow you guys are like reverse Neos. You can look at the world and see the code underneath.

    Nope, in this case these guys are right.

    What they probably ment was the fact, that a lot of bugs came up in dfuw which vets already knew from DF1 beta; which had been fixed back then.

    So a) AV coded in the same bugs twice in a row... or b) it isnt a completely new code after all. Take your pick.

    @Tibernicus:

    It kind of hurts in the head to read your nonsense spam. Please stop it, will you.

    PS: If you just dont get it, why DFUW was "unfinished", then please watch the complete video linked in my signature...before you make another post. Thanks.

     

    Except this is why they have no credibility. That's not a fact. The existence of similar bugs doesn't mean you can say the games share the same code. I have no agenda either way on this because I don't care if it uses the same code or not; I'm just sick of people treating theories as facts regarding this game.

    your talking about credibility when you claim darkfall Uw have 20k subs with nothing to back that up

     

    I give AV more creditbility then you

    You actually confuse him with tibernicus. ;)

    Caaahl / DAA KAPUTTMACHAA ---DF/DFUW

  • KilrainKilrain Prineville, ORPosts: 684Member Uncommon
    Originally posted by Snoepie

    @ op.. 

     

    Upcoming repopulation has lots of potential ( yes i played it)

     

    good 'ol potential. The last positive thing people say about most mmos...

    professional web programming and design.

  • SnoepieSnoepie RotterdamPosts: 470Member

    can be.. some dude claimed that indeed,

     

    I dont get this tho.. i see people popup all the time talking about darkfall and so forth.. claiming things that dont even matter..

     

    tbh i know alot of people in the darkfall community and see other people popup both here and on the darkfall forums who i dont even know and start talking about darkfall like they know everything..

    Simple explample is that xhiper dude

  • HolophonistHolophonist Pittsburgh, PAPosts: 2,086Member Uncommon
    Originally posted by Snoepie

    can be.. some dude claimed that indeed, I dont get this tho.. i see people popup all the time talking about darkfall and so forth.. claiming things that dont even matter.. tbh i know alot of people in the darkfall community and see other people popup both here and on the darkfall forums who i dont even know and start talking about darkfall like they know everything..Simple explample is that xhiper dude

     

    You can disagree with xipher if you want of course but it would be hard to make the case that he doesn't know what he's talking about. Also, I've found him to be one of the most fair, level-headed people to ever argue on the internet. I never understood the hate for him... until I realized that it's because he doesn't blindly follow the vitriolic anti-av movement.
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