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[General Article] Diablo 3: Hey Blizzard! Thanks for the Crusader!

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  • sketocafesketocafe StoupaPosts: 804Member Uncommon
    I'm sure you love comments like this so I'm happy to inform you that you probably meant peek in the first graph, not peak.
  • SBFordSBFord Associate Editor - News Manager The Land of AZPosts: 16,649MMORPG.COM Staff Uncommon
    Originally posted by FrodoFragins

     

    Do you have any examples of D3 articles you've written that take Blizzard to task for not giving a worthy successor to D2 or explained why so many were unhappy?

    Because it's Thanksgiving and, honestly, I'm too groggy from cooking all day to really want to get into a lengthy discussion or argument over this issue, I will say just this: EVERY article, every comment in a thread, every Twitter post, Twitch broadcast, podcast, name whatever you like thing, is a subjective opinion based on the experiences of the writer/speaker. There will be those who are happy with what's written and those who are not. It's pretty much that simple. No site or newspaper or broadcast channel can please 100% of their audience no matter what is said and by whom. Call it human nature to be divided and divisive.

    You think D3 is a lousy game. Great. That's your opinion. I happen to think otherwise. That's my opinion. I'm happy agreeing to disagree and if you'd written an article vilifying the game, I would have read it and moved on understanding that different people think different things.  

    This article was not supposed to be hard hitting journalism. Please. Get over the idea that this was supposed to be anything other than a fun piece for what was a fun day until I came here to read the comments.

    Should've just had that pumpkin pie instead. ;)

    So, adios, vaya con Dios, farewell, adieu, good night. 

     

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  • AmjocoAmjoco Layton, UTPosts: 4,782Member Uncommon
    Originally posted by SBFord
    Originally posted by FrodoFragins

     

    Do you have any examples of D3 articles you've written that take Blizzard to task for not giving a worthy successor to D2 or explained why so many were unhappy?

    Because it's Thanksgiving and, honestly, I'm too groggy from cooking all day to really want to get into a lengthy discussion or argument over this issue, I will say just this: EVERY article, every comment in a thread, every Twitter post, Twitch broadcast, podcast, name whatever you like thing, is a subjective opinion based on the experiences of the writer/speaker. There will be those who are happy with what's written and those who are not. It's pretty much that simple. No site or newspaper or broadcast channel can please 100% of their audience no matter what is said and by whom. Call it human nature to be divided and divisive.

    You think D3 is a lousy game. Great. That's your opinion. I happen to think otherwise. That's my opinion. I'm happy agreeing to disagree and if you'd written an article vilifying the game, I would have read it and moved on understanding that different people think different things.  

    This article was not supposed to be hard hitting journalism. Please. Get over the idea that this was supposed to be anything other than a fun piece for what was a fun day until I came here to read the comments.

    Should've just had that pumpkin pie instead. ;)

    So, adios, vaya con Dios, farewell, adieu, good night. 

     

    They basically did the same thing with the GW2s Oath and pledging loyalty to get a free copy.  Many people take things to serious!  Perhaps today it was they were all tired from eating turkey, drinking beer, and watching their favorite football team lose that gave them heartburn about your article. /shrug

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  • Solar_ProphetSolar_Prophet Columbus, OHPosts: 879Member Uncommon
    Originally posted by FrodoFragins

    She's such a shill for D3 it's ridiculous.

     

    None of what's been announced is all that great.  it just puts them at a spot where they should have launched at, and its still missing ladders and PVP.  And you have to spend another $40 to get what we should have had over a year and a half ago.

     

    Every column is just free advertising anyway.

     

    Yes, she enjoys the game and wrote an article about it, so she must be a shill. That's not even worth an implied facepalm.

    The game was FINE at launch. It didn't 'need' to be any-fucking-where. Just because you didn't get Diablo 2 with updated graphics (and thank GOD for that) doesn't mean the game was or is bad, and it most certainly doesn't mean Blizzard owes you something (as implied).

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    Edit: Oh, and just because you didn't like D3 doesn't mean it wasn't / isn't a worthy successor to D2. Quite honestly, I don't think you people would've been happy with ANYTHING Blizzard did.

    D3 surpasses D2 in almost every way possible, period.

    AN' DERE AIN'T NO SUCH FING AS ENUFF DAKKA, YA GROT! Enuff'z more than ya got an' less than too much an' there ain't no such fing as too much dakka. Say dere is, and me Squiggoff'z eatin' tonight!

  • IncomparableIncomparable KuwaitPosts: 872Member

    I like how the article sounds like its a prayer while talking about the crusader class. Nice touch.

    Maybe we can expect in the next installment of diablo that his minions are other non-christian religions as well, and I'm sure in a world of south park, it does not matter, but I can only imagine the shit storm in the real world of being politically correct.

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  • shalissarshalissar Pohjois-PohjanmaaPosts: 299Member Uncommon

    Yeeah crusader, I mean, they could've gone with a more creative class like their witch doctor but no yeah, keep up the cliches. Every time I think about this class I'm mentally mauled by images of that hammer-tossing, gimmicky pile of hacked items that the D2's lowest common denominator loved so much.

    Okay so we have the obligatory holy warrior finally tossed in- what next?

  • DistopiaDistopia Baltimore, MDPosts: 16,916Member Uncommon
    Originally posted by FrodoFragins
    Originally posted by Fendel84M

    I think some people expect too much of the writers on this site. Absolutely nothing against the writers, I genuinely love this site. But I think people expect "Dateline MMORPG" hard hitting reports from inside the industry. They want interviews where they try and piss off the dev, articles that come off as bitter as many forum posters are.

     

    Sorry, this is more akin to being a big MMORPG fan site. These are MMO enthusiasts who do this as a second job. They aren't hard hitting journalists looking to expose the industry. Not that anyone really is doing that because that's a sure fire way to not get any information or interviews ever again...

    So basically, just chill out people. Learn to relax a little bit.

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    If you want to take such a stance I have to ask, why would you even visit this type of site and add to their "clicks" if you feel this way? If you're trying to make them stand on principle, shouldn't you be? This is a gaming site first and foremost, a site run by gamers (who still enjoy gaming, a novel concept ). These types of sites are enthusiast in nature, it's not about hard hitting journalism, it's largely opinion based and will always be.

    The only place you'll find what you're looking for is on the fringe of gaming, people bitter enough about it to take up a crusade against it... It's not exactly hard to find, so I'm not sure how you end up here in the mainstream expecting something that will never happen.

    There's nothing wrong with what MMORPG or sites like it do, you just have to understand what they do to realize that. They still expect you to make up your own mind, this isn't a hive.

     

    For every minute you are angry , you lose 60 seconds of happiness."-Emerson

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  • RazeeksterRazeekster Solon, MEPosts: 2,201Member Uncommon

    Meh, Diablo 3 was the fasted selling AARPG because it built upon the reputations of Diablo and Diablo 2, both games which were created by developers who truly had a passion for the genre they were working in and were gamers themselves making games for other gamers.

     

    Diablo 3 in retrospect was made out of greed and the developers that worked on it are arrogant and rude. Need proof?

     

    http://www.gamebreaker.tv/pc-games/that-loser/

     

    I refuse to support Blizzard after reading that. They clearly no longer hire competent developers.

     

    Smile

  • IsilithTehrothIsilithTehroth Unknown, AZPosts: 201Member Uncommon

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    @solar_Prophet- Many fans would like to disagree, hence why its considered the death of the franchise. The only thing done better this time around is the combat, but everything else is by far subpar, catering to the casual masses. Tired of every game getting dumbed down.

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    Too much screwing of the consumer mostly in the pc area(mmorpgs mostly). Graphics aren't an issue  due to software holdiing it back, so the developers should be making a complete game with depth and great foundations instead of trying to make another uninnovative WoW clone with slightly better graphics so they can sell them on consoles. Games are now follow this formula XYZ and make a slight variable usually the IP and some other gimmick to make money. First make a great game then money will be rewarded to you. They should start making mmorpgs have no purcahse fee, but have all their revenue generated from subscriptions; that way their livelyhood is banking on player retention; thus forcing them to make great games.

     
     

    MurderHerd

  • marremurtmarremurt Grekland, MOPosts: 49Member

    this game already destroyed their reputation, and im 1 of those who will never return to it.

    and seeing tons of news about diablo 3 makes me wonder, how can you make some much news about this game when they took like a year to do a simple change, remove the RMT, now its to late and im pretty sure im not the only one who will never set my foots on this game again.

     

    And the other reason is, asking for Money to get this reaper update is just even worse, when they already destroyed game once.

  • black_isleblack_isle IstanbulPosts: 239Member Uncommon
    I like the class but i always prefer knight in shining armor type paladin. This just doesn't feel like that fantasy and gives me too much militaristic vibes for some reason. Still gonna play it tho.
  • xanthmetisxanthmetis Racine, WIPosts: 135Member

    I personally am happy that this website is around and giving me information on current/future games.  I imagine that running mmorpg.com has  costs.  I  bet they get money for advertising and I am happy they do.  I would really be disappointed if mmorpg.com was not around due not having money to run it.

     

    Good write up :)

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  • RadooRadoo Reggio EmiliaPosts: 176Member Uncommon
    Originally posted by Razeekster

    Meh, Diablo 3 was the fasted selling AARPG because it built upon the reputations of Diablo and Diablo 2, both games which were created by developers who truly had a passion for the genre they were working in and were gamers themselves making games for other gamers.

     

    Diablo 3 in retrospect was made out of greed and the developers that worked on it are arrogant and rude. Need proof?

     

    http://www.gamebreaker.tv/pc-games/that-loser/

     

    I refuse to support Blizzard after reading that. They clearly no longer hire competent developers.

     

    +1 and thanks for sharing.

     

  • ShamorauShamorau melbournePosts: 173Member Uncommon
    not an MMO why is it being reported on, dont you have a sister rpg site that this can go to.
  • MyriaMyria Lowell, MAPosts: 570Member Uncommon

    What's that I hear? Ah, yes, the bleat of the internet herd!

     

    Someone has written something nice about D3, such heresy cannot be allowed to stand!!1!!1!one!!!

     

    Kind of amusing, if depressingly predictable, to see a lighthearted piece about the D3 crusader bring out the legions of anti-D3 crusaders who somehow believe they can make everyone believe a hugely successful game was a failure by flogging every logical fallacy in the book.

  • zymurgeistzymurgeist Pittsville, VAPosts: 5,215Member Uncommon
    Originally posted by Radoo
    Originally posted by Razeekster

    Meh, Diablo 3 was the fasted selling AARPG because it built upon the reputations of Diablo and Diablo 2, both games which were created by developers who truly had a passion for the genre they were working in and were gamers themselves making games for other gamers.

     

    Diablo 3 in retrospect was made out of greed and the developers that worked on it are arrogant and rude. Need proof?

     

    http://www.gamebreaker.tv/pc-games/that-loser/

     

    I refuse to support Blizzard after reading that. They clearly no longer hire competent developers.

     

    +1 and thanks for sharing.

     

     Yet it sold more than 14 million copies and millions of people worldwide still play it every week.  I guess they all haven't got the memo about your "proof."  Or maybe they enjoy playing the game. You must be horrified. All those millions of fake posters  and shills having fun. How dare they. 

    "Strong and bitter words indicate a weak cause" ~Victor Hugo

  • baphametbaphamet omaha, NEPosts: 2,838Member Uncommon

    SMH @ the comments here.

    when i think the community here can't get any worse i am proven wrong yet again.

    just horrid.

  • RadooRadoo Reggio EmiliaPosts: 176Member Uncommon
    Originally posted by zymurgeist
    Originally posted by Radoo
    Originally posted by Razeekster

    Meh, Diablo 3 was the fasted selling AARPG because it built upon the reputations of Diablo and Diablo 2, both games which were created by developers who truly had a passion for the genre they were working in and were gamers themselves making games for other gamers.

     

    Diablo 3 in retrospect was made out of greed and the developers that worked on it are arrogant and rude. Need proof?

     

    http://www.gamebreaker.tv/pc-games/that-loser/

     

    I refuse to support Blizzard after reading that. They clearly no longer hire competent developers.

     

    +1 and thanks for sharing.

     

     Yet it sold more than 14 million copies and millions of people worldwide still play it every week.  I guess they all haven't got the memo about your "proof."  Or maybe they enjoy playing the game. You must be horrified. All those millions of fake posters  and shills having fun. How dare they. 

    The amount of game copies sold has nothing to do with the amount of people still playing.

    That said, let me inform you then that the European server is almost deserted....so ....what are you even trying to say?

  • zymurgeistzymurgeist Pittsville, VAPosts: 5,215Member Uncommon
    Originally posted by Radoo
    Originally posted by zymurgeist
    Originally posted by Radoo
    Originally posted by Razeekster

    Meh, Diablo 3 was the fasted selling AARPG because it built upon the reputations of Diablo and Diablo 2, both games which were created by developers who truly had a passion for the genre they were working in and were gamers themselves making games for other gamers.

     

    Diablo 3 in retrospect was made out of greed and the developers that worked on it are arrogant and rude. Need proof?

     

    http://www.gamebreaker.tv/pc-games/that-loser/

     

    I refuse to support Blizzard after reading that. They clearly no longer hire competent developers.

     

    +1 and thanks for sharing.

     

     Yet it sold more than 14 million copies and millions of people worldwide still play it every week.  I guess they all haven't got the memo about your "proof."  Or maybe they enjoy playing the game. You must be horrified. All those millions of fake posters  and shills having fun. How dare they. 

    The amount of game copies sold has nothing to do with the amount of people still playing.

    That said, let me inform you then that the European server is almost deserted....so ....what are you even trying to say?

    I'm saying you're wrong. Period.  People are still buying the game. People are still playing the game. People still like the game. People will buy the expansion. People will play the expansion. People will like the expansion, especially the crusader.  Millions of them. Want to tell me how you know how many people are playing on European servers? It's a single player/co-op game.

    "Strong and bitter words indicate a weak cause" ~Victor Hugo

  • nationalcitynationalcity Decatur, MIPosts: 330Member Uncommon
    Originally posted by SBFord
    Originally posted by FrodoFragins

     

    Do you have any examples of D3 articles you've written that take Blizzard to task for not giving a worthy successor to D2 or explained why so many were unhappy?

    Because it's Thanksgiving and, honestly, I'm too groggy from cooking all day to really want to get into a lengthy discussion or argument over this issue, I will say just this: EVERY article, every comment in a thread, every Twitter post, Twitch broadcast, podcast, name whatever you like thing, is a subjective opinion based on the experiences of the writer/speaker. There will be those who are happy with what's written and those who are not. It's pretty much that simple. No site or newspaper or broadcast channel can please 100% of their audience no matter what is said and by whom. Call it human nature to be divided and divisive.

    You think D3 is a lousy game. Great. That's your opinion. I happen to think otherwise. That's my opinion. I'm happy agreeing to disagree and if you'd written an article vilifying the game, I would have read it and moved on understanding that different people think different things.  

    This article was not supposed to be hard hitting journalism. Please. Get over the idea that this was supposed to be anything other than a fun piece for what was a fun day until I came here to read the comments.

    Should've just had that pumpkin pie instead. ;)

    So, adios, vaya con Dios, farewell, adieu, good night. 

     

    Good for you for standing up for your article if other people don't like it oh well, you can't please everyone.......

     

    God, people on this site are something else..........

     

     
  • RazeeksterRazeekster Solon, MEPosts: 2,201Member Uncommon
    Originally posted by zymurgeist
    Originally posted by Radoo
    Originally posted by Razeekster

    Meh, Diablo 3 was the fasted selling AARPG because it built upon the reputations of Diablo and Diablo 2, both games which were created by developers who truly had a passion for the genre they were working in and were gamers themselves making games for other gamers.

     

    Diablo 3 in retrospect was made out of greed and the developers that worked on it are arrogant and rude. Need proof?

     

    http://www.gamebreaker.tv/pc-games/that-loser/

     

    I refuse to support Blizzard after reading that. They clearly no longer hire competent developers.

     

    +1 and thanks for sharing.

     

     Yet it sold more than 14 million copies and millions of people worldwide still play it every week.  I guess they all haven't got the memo about your "proof."  Or maybe they enjoy playing the game. You must be horrified. All those millions of fake posters  and shills having fun. How dare they. 

    Clearly you didn't read the part where I wrote the only reason Diablo 3 sold that many copies was because of the stellar reputation of the first two games.

     

    Diablo 3 would have never sold that many copies without those two games paving the way for it. People waited 10 years for the third game, so obviously they were excited. I doubt anyone was ecstatic about the RMT or DRM policies.

     

    But who knows... You may be a gold seller for all I know.

     

    Smile

  • FrodoFraginsFrodoFragins Manchester, NHPosts: 2,932Member Uncommon
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  • TsumoroTsumoro EozeaPosts: 408Member Uncommon
    Sorry I am missing something here? I came here to read an article, and I did and I rather enjoyed it.  Whats all this about adverts and crap like that?

  • SBFordSBFord Associate Editor - News Manager The Land of AZPosts: 16,649MMORPG.COM Staff Uncommon
    Originally posted by FrodoFragins

    95% of my time is spent on the forums where people actually discuss the games good and bad attributes.  I'm not looking for "hater" sites.  I'm looking for honest discussion and preferably a site whose writers are advocates for the players, not the advertisers.  I haven't found that site yet.

    Simply because writers don't agree with your view of things, that makes their opinions less valuable than yours. I see now. Thanks for clearing that up. :P

    Is it possible that I advocate for, you know, the players who like Diablo 3 as it is, was and forever shall be, Amen? :D

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  • IsilithTehrothIsilithTehroth Unknown, AZPosts: 201Member Uncommon
    Originally posted by Tsumoro
    Sorry I am missing something here? I came here to read an article, and I did and I rather enjoyed it.  Whats all this about adverts and crap like that?

    Article on what exactly? All She typed was basic knowledge about the Paladin class, while not subjecting the game to critism in the least bit. That is why we are angry. We come here to find facts about mmorpgs, not to have fans telling us why we should play the game they're promoting. Now if she got inside information and did an interview with the developers discussing changes that will be effecting the game to make it how the core fanbase would like it, then it would be a good article; until then this is 3rd rate journalism with very blantant bias with no substance other than "this game is going to be great", followed by a monetary check to the write from Blizzard.

    MurderHerd

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