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Mages not being able to use plate?

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  • IselinIselin Vancouver, BCPosts: 5,606Member Uncommon

    LOl. What's all this "NDA" shit about this question.  The details of armor being independent from class has been well known for a long time. 

     

    If you bother to look at real, non-NDA-breaking ESO news sources, such as the Tamriel Foundry, instead of rumor mongering troll sites like this place or reddit you'd know:

     

    Yes, any class can wear as many or as few pieces of each armor type as they wish. They have a system where you get passives based on number of pieces of armor worn of a particular type and also extra bonuses once you wear 5 or more pieces of a particular type.

     

    The article I'm linking is a month old... noobs image

     

    http://tamrielfoundry.com/2013/10/skill-overview-armor/

     

  • MattatronMattatron Dunlap, ILPosts: 226Member
    Originally posted by Iselin

    LOl. What's all this "NDA" shit about this question.  The details of armor being independent from class has been well known for a long time. 

     

    If you bother to look at real, non-NDA-breaking ESO news sources, such as the Tamriel Foundry, instead of rumor mongering troll sites like this place or reddit you'd know:

     

    Yes, any class can wear as many or as few pieces of each armor type as they wish. They have a system where you get passives based on number of pieces of armor worn of a particular type and also extra bonuses once you wear 5 or more pieces of a particular type.

     

    The article I'm linking is a month old... noobs image

     

    http://tamrielfoundry.com/2013/10/skill-overview-armor/

     

    Yes that's been discussed. Thank you very much, sir or madam. Would you care for some tea with your "parrot victory"?

  • IselinIselin Vancouver, BCPosts: 5,606Member Uncommon
    Originally posted by Mattatron
    Originally posted by Iselin

    LOl. What's all this "NDA" shit about this question.  The details of armor being independent from class has been well known for a long time. 

     

    If you bother to look at real, non-NDA-breaking ESO news sources, such as the Tamriel Foundry, instead of rumor mongering troll sites like this place or reddit you'd know:

     

    Yes, any class can wear as many or as few pieces of each armor type as they wish. They have a system where you get passives based on number of pieces of armor worn of a particular type and also extra bonuses once you wear 5 or more pieces of a particular type.

     

    The article I'm linking is a month old... noobs image

     

    http://tamrielfoundry.com/2013/10/skill-overview-armor/

     

    Yes that's been discussed. Thank you very much, sir or madam. Would you care for some tea with your "parrot victory"?

    I must have missed the Tamriel factory article link in this thread... care to point me to it?

    There you can also find class skills and weapon skills - None of that is NDA info... and has also been posted here if you bother to look beyond page 1.

  • cheeseheadscheeseheads beloit, WIPosts: 56Member Uncommon
    Originally posted by Iselin

    LOl. What's all this "NDA" shit about this question.  The details of armor being independent from class has been well known for a long time. 

     

    If you bother to look at real, non-NDA-breaking ESO news sources, such as the Tamriel Foundry, instead of rumor mongering troll sites like this place or reddit you'd know:

     

    Yes, any class can wear as many or as few pieces of each armor type as they wish. They have a system where you get passives based on number of pieces of armor worn of a particular type and also extra bonuses once you wear 5 or more pieces of a particular type.

     

    The article I'm linking is a month old... noobs image

     

    http://tamrielfoundry.com/2013/10/skill-overview-armor/

     

    lol they are worried cause the NDA police on this site are bad bad people

  • IselinIselin Vancouver, BCPosts: 5,606Member Uncommon
    Originally posted by cheeseheads
    Originally posted by Iselin

    LOl. What's all this "NDA" shit about this question.  The details of armor being independent from class has been well known for a long time. 

     

    If you bother to look at real, non-NDA-breaking ESO news sources, such as the Tamriel Foundry, instead of rumor mongering troll sites like this place or reddit you'd know:

     

    Yes, any class can wear as many or as few pieces of each armor type as they wish. They have a system where you get passives based on number of pieces of armor worn of a particular type and also extra bonuses once you wear 5 or more pieces of a particular type.

     

    The article I'm linking is a month old... noobs image

     

    http://tamrielfoundry.com/2013/10/skill-overview-armor/

     

    lol they are worried cause the NDA police on this site are bad bad people

    The mods here actually do a good job of policing obvious NDA violations... as they should. Thing is that a lot of the things people think are under NDA are known and have been known for a long time - at least the factual part is.

     

    What is under NDA is our own subjective experience of how this actually plays in the game and explicit descriptions of details that have not been revealed. 

  • evilastroevilastro EdinburghPosts: 4,270Member
    Originally posted by Raagnarz
    Originally posted by ElRenmazuo
    Originally posted by Blazer6992

       Name me an MMO wear mages CAN wear plate armor.

     

    I think in Ultima Online you could

    As my earlier post said, you most definitely could in UO. It usually occurs in more sandbox style games like Darkfall recently. There are also usually penalties for doing it as well. Mana regen, or slower casting speed etc.

    In GW1 you could play as a plate wearer with spell casting, but you needed to be creative in ways to generate enough mana, or you could just use the auras.  Also in RaiderZ you could set yourself up as a mage in plate.  Pretty much any MMO with multi-classing allowed it with penalties, just like the Elder Scrolls and tabletop games always have.

     

  • IselinIselin Vancouver, BCPosts: 5,606Member Uncommon
    Originally posted by evilastro
    Originally posted by Raagnarz
    Originally posted by ElRenmazuo
    Originally posted by Blazer6992

       Name me an MMO wear mages CAN wear plate armor.

     

    I think in Ultima Online you could

    As my earlier post said, you most definitely could in UO. It usually occurs in more sandbox style games like Darkfall recently. There are also usually penalties for doing it as well. Mana regen, or slower casting speed etc.

    In GW1 you could play as a plate wearer with spell casting, but you needed to be creative in ways to generate enough mana, or you could just use the auras.  Also in RaiderZ you could set yourself up as a mage in plate.  Pretty much any MMO with multi-classing allowed it with penalties, just like the Elder Scrolls and tabletop games always have.

     

    I actually like the way they're doing it here: instead of penalties you get "lack of bonuses"... I know, I know, a small distinction.

     

    There are even some caster builds people have theorycrafted about that use some medium armor for the stamina regen bonuses... that together with the Sorcerer ability, Dark Exchange (Channel dark magic, restoring your own Health and Magicka at the cost of Stamina) looks pretty appealing... the lead dev in a recent interview talked about having fun with that.

     

    I expect that people will mix and match weighing the bonuses, mitigation, etc. 

  • WolfhammerWolfhammer KetteringPosts: 694Member Uncommon
    Originally posted by Lord.Bachus

    Can anyone show me an official reaction to this dramatic rumoured game change..

     

    I can live with spellcasting not being efficient in plate. I can not live with mages not being able to use plate.  Because what would an ES game be withouth battle mages.

     

    Please give me some confirmation that this rumour is not true. To proof a rumor not true, you can only use official information, i bet there must be a developer reaction somehwere if its not true, as this information is totally contradictory with the information on the official Website.

    I am not asking for information from beta players, but for an official reaction by a developer.

     

     

    SO DISREGARD THIS POST...

    The information is just a rumor, a trolling attempt or whatever, i just got personal confirmation that this rumor is not even close to being true.  Which clearly shows to me that a lot of the negatives in another thread where nothing but trolling attempts. 

     C'mon Lord what are you doing taking forum rumour as gospel?  You didn't get this false info from an official source so should have auto been filed under "B" for bullshit.

    Also asking for an official dev response here = Lulz

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  • RPGForeverRPGForever PortoviejoPosts: 120Member
    The system sounds quite complicated.
  • Mtibbs1989Mtibbs1989 Fredericksburg, VAPosts: 2,920Member Uncommon
    Originally posted by Blazer6992

       Name me an MMO wear mages CAN wear plate armor.

     

    lol Anarchy Online ;)

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  • AntiquatedAntiquated Oak Brook, MIPosts: 667Member Uncommon

    Mages in plate are required by pvp.

    The classical pve theory (more damage balanced by less defense/less damage by more defense) does not work out well, in practice, when pvp is intended. Your warriors are unhappy with their pitiful dps, your mages are unhappy wearing tissue paper, and both sides bitch constantly.

    Just one aspect of rpg's where pvp and pve world don't mix comfortably.

  • Lord.BachusLord.Bachus Den HelderPosts: 9,064Member Uncommon
    Originally posted by Wolfhammer
    Originally posted by Lord.Bachus

    Can anyone show me an official reaction to this dramatic rumoured game change..

     

    I can live with spellcasting not being efficient in plate. I can not live with mages not being able to use plate.  Because what would an ES game be withouth battle mages.

     

    Please give me some confirmation that this rumour is not true. To proof a rumor not true, you can only use official information, i bet there must be a developer reaction somehwere if its not true, as this information is totally contradictory with the information on the official Website.

    I am not asking for information from beta players, but for an official reaction by a developer.

     

     

    SO DISREGARD THIS POST...

    The information is just a rumor, a trolling attempt or whatever, i just got personal confirmation that this rumor is not even close to being true.  Which clearly shows to me that a lot of the negatives in another thread where nothing but trolling attempts. 

     C'mon Lord what are you doing taking forum rumour as gospel?  You didn't get this false info from an official source so should have auto been filed under "B" for bullshit.

    Also asking for an official dev response here = Lulz

    It was presented by someone in a long list of complaints, from which all other complaints got confirmedby others, or even acknowledged as personal opinions, this single complaint stood there and noboddy got to take it away before the whole topic got removed.

     

    i have seen stranger things happening during a development cycle and developers worrying about ballance do strange things.

     

    all in all i was triggered to find out the truth... Which i did... Mages can wear cloth leather and plate, time to move on now.

     

     

     

    (and i asked for a dev quote on the topic)

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  • MyrdynnMyrdynn Beaumont, CAPosts: 1,516Member Uncommon

    Horizons/Istaria, some mages can wear plate as well

     

  • ArglebargleArglebargle Austin, TXPosts: 1,413Member Uncommon
    Originally posted by Antiquated

    Mages in plate are required by pvp.

    The classical pve theory (more damage balanced by less defense/less damage by more defense) does not work out well, in practice, when pvp is intended. Your warriors are unhappy with their pitiful dps, your mages are unhappy wearing tissue paper, and both sides bitch constantly.

    Just one aspect of rpg's where pvp and pve world don't mix comfortably.

    Not to mention that they have to come up with murky and haphazard lore excuses as to why classical hard edge class distinctions happen.  

    If you are holding out for the perfect game, the only game you play will be the waiting one.

  • VidirVidir GothenburgPosts: 944Member Uncommon
    Originally posted by Blazer6992

       Name me an MMO wear mages CAN wear plate armor.

     

    AC

  • mysticalunamysticaluna Scotia, NYPosts: 265Member Uncommon
    I don't want pvp to keep ruining my pve gameplay, I want variety and uniqueness, not some boring min/maxing cookie cutter homogenization, where every single class in game has interrupts and crowd control, so they can all do the same job in pvp. 
  • IsilithTehrothIsilithTehroth Unknown, AZPosts: 189Member Uncommon
    Originally posted by PerfArt
    Originally posted by Blazer6992

       Name me an MMO wear mages CAN wear plate armor.

     

    The mmorpg genre is not defined by a specific type of lore or class mechanic at all. Even a little. It is defined by being a persistent online multiplayer role playing game. Therefore, your demand holds no relevance to his question, which was a fair question since this game is based on a world known for famous battlemages who wore plate armor. 

    Darkfall online for starters.

    MurderHerd

  • Lord.BachusLord.Bachus Den HelderPosts: 9,064Member Uncommon
    Originally posted by mysticaluna
    I don't want pvp to keep ruining my pve gameplay, I want variety and uniqueness, not some boring min/maxing cookie cutter homogenization, where every single class in game has interrupts and crowd control, so they can all do the same job in pvp. 

    A) pvp and pve are totally seperated in this game, it will not get any better..

    B) ESO and every elder scrolls game gives you the freedom to build a character like you want it, build a PvE character just like you desire..  There are no true classes, just a base outline...

     

     

    actually your post prooves to me that most people have no clue about the game mechanics.

    Best MMO experiences : EQ(PvE), DAoC(PvP), WoW(total package) LOTRO (worldfeel) GW2 (Artstyle and animations and worlddesign) SWTOR (Story immersion) TSW (story) ESO (character advancement)

  • ThillianThillian BratislavaPosts: 3,143Member Uncommon
    Originally posted by Vidir
    Originally posted by Blazer6992

       Name me an MMO wear mages CAN wear plate armor.

     

    AC

    DDO

    REALITY CHECK

  • svannsvann san jose, CAPosts: 1,638Member Uncommon
    Originally posted by Raagnarz
    Originally posted by ElRenmazuo
    Originally posted by Blazer6992

       Name me an MMO wear mages CAN wear plate armor.

     

    I think in Ultima Online you could

    As my earlier post said, you most definitely could in UO. It usually occurs in more sandbox style games like Darkfall recently. There are also usually penalties for doing it as well. Mana regen, or slower casting speed etc.

    IIRC the only penalty in UO was that you needed to put points into strength so you could carry the heavier armor.

  • EntinerintEntinerint brooklyn, NYPosts: 843Member Uncommon

    Mages can indeed wear plate.  Fret not.

  • killahhkillahh calgary, ABPosts: 437Member
    Originally posted by svann

    Originally posted by Raagnarz
    Originally posted by ElRenmazuo
    Originally posted by Blazer6992
       Name me an MMO wear mages CAN wear plate armor.  

    I think in Ultima Online you could

    As my earlier post said, you most definitely could in UO. It usually occurs in more sandbox style games like Darkfall recently. There are also usually penalties for doing it as well. Mana regen, or slower casting speed etc.

    IIRC the only penalty in UO was that you needed to put points into strength so you could carry the heavier armor.

     

    correct and many other games you can play is a mage plate wielder, ie: Elder Scrolls the premise is make your character and every Elder Scrolls game give the option to be a spell sword or whatever spell wielding plate wearer.

    It's mostly games like wow which have changed the genre.
    Having said that yes, D&D makes were usually other as well, but even in Moria and other rogue like games you could wear plate but had a small restriction, such as unable to wear plate gloves.

    Gonada Dahung,over 20 years of mmorpg's and counting....Please Lord, let someone make a game that had all the awesomeness of UO, EQ and EVE...

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