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World of Warcraft: Warlords of Draenor Announced

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  • syriinxsyriinx New York, NYPosts: 1,059Member Uncommon
    Originally posted by Jafotron
    Was reading the forums noticed that the last tier of raiding is only 20 man? wont that mess up 10 man guilds and 25 a bit?

    They basically are doing away with the concept of 10 man and 25 man teams.  Normal and heroic tiers can flex from 10-25.

     

    They are adding a top tier for 20, which will allow for better content design because the ultra fine tuning only has to be done for 20 man and it allows them more freedom in encounter design.  the normal and heroic can afford looser tuning and still be an appropriate challenge.

     

    Seems to make sense on paper, who knows how it will pan out in action.

  • elockeelocke Manassas, VAPosts: 4,205Member Uncommon
    Originally posted by stayontarget
    Originally posted by elocke

    Finally, a way to have all my characters at 90 instead slogging through content I've seen a million times already.  Very happy about this "boost to 90 and play immediately".  Just as long as it's not a paid service or stuck behind RAF(I don't have friends who would play for me to use this).

    Housing! Yess! New WORLD, not continent, yesss!

    One question thou.  If you have slogged through all the content a million times already, shouldn't all your characters already be at max level?

     

     

    Making insta 90's = don't know how to play there characters.

    Not really.  It only takes a few quests and mob fights at max level to figure out your abilities and such.  I've got about 3 to 4 max characters, but I want a one of each class and dread having to slog through the levels again.  Bad players = bad players.  Good players start out bad but become good quite quickly.  Just like any game really.

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  • elockeelocke Manassas, VAPosts: 4,205Member Uncommon
    Originally posted by ElRenmazuo
    Originally posted by elocke

    Finally, a way to have all my characters at 90 instead slogging through content I've seen a million times already.  Very happy about this "boost to 90 and play immediately".  Just as long as it's not a paid service or stuck behind RAF(I don't have friends who would play for me to use this).

    Housing! Yess! New WORLD, not continent, yesss!

    Its only one character per account similar to death knight

    Ah, bummer.  Well at least I can get ONE of my toons up there that are really low then.  Probably my warrior, hehe.

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  • syriinxsyriinx New York, NYPosts: 1,059Member Uncommon

    They have done an amazing job with the new models.

    It wont be good enough for some, but they are impressive to see in action.  They are definitely going for that expressive face thing that EQN is going for.

  • syriinxsyriinx New York, NYPosts: 1,059Member Uncommon
    Originally posted by elocke
    Originally posted by stayontarget
    Originally posted by elocke

    Finally, a way to have all my characters at 90 instead slogging through content I've seen a million times already.  Very happy about this "boost to 90 and play immediately".  Just as long as it's not a paid service or stuck behind RAF(I don't have friends who would play for me to use this).

    Housing! Yess! New WORLD, not continent, yesss!

    One question thou.  If you have slogged through all the content a million times already, shouldn't all your characters already be at max level?

     

     

    Making insta 90's = don't know how to play there characters.

    Not really.  It only takes a few quests and mob fights at max level to figure out your abilities and such.  I've got about 3 to 4 max characters, but I want a one of each class and dread having to slog through the levels again.  Bad players = bad players.  Good players start out bad but become good quite quickly.  Just like any game really.

    Its no different from the other expansions that had talent resets.  You have 10 levels to get acquainted with your class before max level, more than enough time.

  • darkhalf357xdarkhalf357x Brooklyn, NYPosts: 1,164Member Uncommon

    The Garrison is sounding like more RTS play that I won't enjoy.  I like the idea of new quests that focus on exploration.  I hope they include the old world in the quests and not just the expansion.  The world is being wasted right now with everything current only happening in the latest expansion.

    Looking forward.

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  • syriinxsyriinx New York, NYPosts: 1,059Member Uncommon
    Originally posted by darkhalf357x

    The Garrison is sounding like more RTS play that I won't enjoy.  I like the idea of new quests that focus on exploration.  I hope they include the old world in the quests and not just the expansion.  The world is being wasted right now with everything current only happening in the latest expansion.

    Looking forward.

    The last two patches have used the old world.

    Blizzard is clearly experimenting with this.

     

    And from the sounds of thing it seems like the old world will come into play towards the end of the expansion

  • LaterisLateris Phoenix, AZPosts: 1,802Member
    Originally posted by elocke

    Finally, a way to have all my characters at 90 instead slogging through content I've seen a million times already.  Very happy about this "boost to 90 and play immediately".  Just as long as it's not a paid service or stuck behind RAF(I don't have friends who would play for me to use this).

    Housing! Yess! New WORLD, not continent, yesss!

    Agreeing with you as well on this- aye/.  I bet we see voxels in the expansion after this one in the next 2 years/ heh

     

    The avatar remodels look better. 

     

     

     

  • MMOGamer71MMOGamer71 Pittsburgh, PAPosts: 1,930Member Common
    Originally posted by Lobotomist
    Originally posted by MMOGamer71
    Boost to 90 and play instantly + New World PvP zone = Comical.

    Boost to 90 and play instantly + New World PvP zone = GW2

    I fixed it for ya'

    Except it wasn't a stab at the game.

  • WebferretWebferret AdelaidePosts: 82Member

    Most likely the same as every other xpac, suck you in to buy it enough content for a week or two at best.

    Blizz games are getting worse and worse as they bring out trash xpac's and horrid remakes (Aka D3)

    Wont be geting a dime from my anymore. Hope it works out for the players that buy it, and not somre rehashed similar looking zones and garbage like usual.

  • DrDreamDrDream Mill Hall, PAPosts: 163Member

    I dont know why i read comment people are so stupid or just trolling so hard its not even funny.

    anyway this X-pack looks AMAZING i cant wait to dip my toes in it. New character models look awesome, and garrisons look like i could spend hours in, and a free lvl 90 toon just because as someone whos not much of an altaholic i look forward to all this and more!

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  • bcbullybcbully Westland, MIPosts: 8,260Member Uncommon

    "Along with these new features, World of Warcraft players will enjoy a wide array of new content on their way to the new level cap of 100, including new ZonesDungeonsRaidsScenariosBattlegrounds"

     

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  • Dexter2010Dexter2010 Beverly Hills, CAPosts: 244Member Common

    I'm really underwhelmed, this feels like a patch and not an xpak. Few new dungeons that has to last 10 levels, how is this a selling point? How would you sell an xpak without new dungeons? New models are nothing more than recolored old ones and won't even be ready at launch, yet fanboys exclaim "how do you not see the difference?!" A classic placebo effect or case of 'The King's New Clothes'; you know, he's too stupid to know he's naked. No new classes and 1 new talent tier at level 100 screams laziness. Mobs, Outlands, the story, and dungeons are rehashed and reused.

    An instant level 90 is given to every upgraded account to bypass trite repetitive content just to make you repeat BC gameplay at 90. Why pay $60 when Scroll of Resurrection is free? As much as I wanted a petless hunter, Bliz didn't want pet classes (eg. warlocks) to play like that. What hypocrisy. Bliz is spoon feeding customers loads of shit, while fanboys shout "Thank you sir! May I have another sir?!"

  • MMOManiacsMMOManiacs New York, NYPosts: 189Member
    Originally posted by Dexter2010

    I'm really underwhelmed, this feels like a patch and not an xpak. Few new dungeons that has to last 10 levels, how is this a selling point? How would you sell an xpak without new dungeons? New models are nothing more than recolored old ones and won't even be ready at launch, yet fanboys exclaim "how do you not see the difference?!" A classic placebo effect or case of 'The King's New Clothes'; you know, he's too stupid to know he's naked. No new classes and 1 new talent tier at level 100 screams laziness. Mobs, Outlands, the story, and dungeons are rehashed and reused.

    An instant level 90 is given to every upgraded account to bypass trite repetitive content just to make you repeat BC gameplay at 90. Why pay $60 when Scroll of Resurrection is free? As much as I wanted a petless hunter, Bliz didn't want pet classes (eg. warlocks) to play like that. What hypocrisy. Bliz is spoon feeding customers loads of shit, while fanboys shout "Thank you sir! May I have another sir?!"

    Or some see/play it for what it is: the best, most complicated and challenging raid content on the market.

  • muffins89muffins89 Yakima, WAPosts: 1,306Member Uncommon
    are they changing the talent system again?  I hope so.

    I think the prostitute mod corrupted your game files man. -elhefen

  • RazeeksterRazeekster Solon, MEPosts: 2,201Member Uncommon
    Originally posted by deniromonk
    Originally posted by Razeekster
    Originally posted by deniromonk
    Originally posted by observer

    Craft from bank copied from GW2.

    If anything, the crafting changes were ripped from SWTOR, not GW2.

    As a matter of fact, there are more things ripped from SWTOR in this xpac than any other 1 game (new zone dedicated to pvp only, a la ilium....being able to gain companions who will live at your base.....having said companions gather resources for you, having said companions craft for you etc).

     

    This is hilarious because SWTOR is clone of WoW. It's WoW with a Star Wars skin over it. Also this post is funny in that it suggests SWTOR was the first game to have PvP zones.

    This post is funny because you are trying to detract everyones attention away from the fact that they are completely copying Ilium, by saying that I implied SWTOR invented "PVP Zones". And also, how does SWTOR being a WoW clone in any way detract from the fact that WoW is copying companions, and companion functions, directly from SWTOR?

    I think someone is upset that SWTOR has more things getting copied than other MMOs...

    Are you joking? I don't even like or play WoW but am rational enough to know that WoW is not copying Ilium. They have copied other things from MMOs and that's what they do. They copy features and usually add more polish to them. Also you are implying that SWTOR invented PvP zones because Ilium from SWTOR is not the first ever PvP zone in all of MMORPG history, yet you're implying that WoW is copying SWTOR by adding a PvP zone in the expansion...

    Smile

  • bladedancerbladedancer BrightonPosts: 38Member
    Originally posted by elocke

    Finally, a way to have all my characters at 90 instead slogging through content I've seen a million times already.  Very happy about this "boost to 90 and play immediately".  Just as long as it's not a paid service or stuck behind RAF(I don't have friends who would play for me to use this).

    Housing! Yess! New WORLD, not continent, yesss!

    Yeah even though it's only for one character, it's still a nice addition tbh. This expansion does look better than MoP ( and cataclysm).

     

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  • slickbizzleslickbizzle Matthews, NCPosts: 464Member
    Originally posted by Maggon
    Originally posted by slickbizzle

    I was pretty stoked to hear about a trailer for the new expansion.  After seeing it, I was a little let down.  It didn't hook me.  I guess I need to stop comparing the trailers to the one for WotLK. 

     

     

     

    Well, it's just an announcement trailer, not a cinematic trailer - that one will first be revealed closer to the release of the expansion.

     

    They been doing it like this for quite a long time now.

     

    Ah. I'll stay patient for the cinematic trailer then.   

     

     

     

  • MMOManiacsMMOManiacs New York, NYPosts: 189Member
    Originally posted by Razeekster
    Originally posted by deniromonk
    Originally posted by Razeekster
    Originally posted by deniromonk
    Originally posted by observer

    Craft from bank copied from GW2.

    If anything, the crafting changes were ripped from SWTOR, not GW2.

    As a matter of fact, there are more things ripped from SWTOR in this xpac than any other 1 game (new zone dedicated to pvp only, a la ilium....being able to gain companions who will live at your base.....having said companions gather resources for you, having said companions craft for you etc).

     

    This is hilarious because SWTOR is clone of WoW. It's WoW with a Star Wars skin over it. Also this post is funny in that it suggests SWTOR was the first game to have PvP zones.

    This post is funny because you are trying to detract everyones attention away from the fact that they are completely copying Ilium, by saying that I implied SWTOR invented "PVP Zones". And also, how does SWTOR being a WoW clone in any way detract from the fact that WoW is copying companions, and companion functions, directly from SWTOR?

    I think someone is upset that SWTOR has more things getting copied than other MMOs...

    Are you joking? I don't even like or play WoW but am rational enough to know that WoW is not copying Ilium. They have copied other things from MMOs and that's what they do. They copy features and usually add more polish to them. Also you are implying that SWTOR invented PvP zones because Ilium from SWTOR is not the first ever PvP zone in all of MMORPG history, yet you're implying that WoW is copying SWTOR by adding a PvP zone in the expansion...

    So, we disagree on the fact that they are copying ilium.

    Now, can you tell me which MMO WoW is copying then with the companions and all the different functions these companions will have?

  • MMOManiacsMMOManiacs New York, NYPosts: 189Member
    Originally posted by xeniar
    Originally posted by deniromonk
    Originally posted by xeniar
    Originally posted by deniromonk
    Originally posted by xeniar
    Originally posted by ThomasN7
    Level cap is 100 so next expansion if there is one will be 110 ?

    yup and health and damage and evrything more then doubles with each expansion.

    we will be doing Millions of DPS

    Except they will prob be doing an ilvl squish:

    http://wow.joystiq.com/2013/08/24/item-squish-extremely-likely-for-wows-next-expansion/

    they could but wouldnt they need to revamp dungeons asswell then?

    the lower levels will be affected vy the squish asswell.. not so much as higher levels but i geus the lvl 50-60 regions would be in a pickle in dungeons.

    They already addressed all of your concerns, you should prob research it.

    oh there are solutions aplenty but nothing is confirmed yet is it. Im not fearing anything, i only see alot of rework for blizzard in doing the squish. Still needs to be done tho. they should have done it a hell of a lot sooner.

    Item squish has been confirmed.

  • AlomarAlomar Middle Earth, NJPosts: 446Member Uncommon
    Umm, looks like I'm returning to WoW...lol. The open-world pvp zone would have brought me back if done right but a garrison plus updated character models are great bonuses.

    Dozens of MMO's, RTS's, FPS's, etc.

  • EbanyEbany ParapPosts: 41Member
    Unless the game is now free2play, or at the very least offer prepaid time blocks, then I have zero interest.
  • LFGroupLFGroup LillePosts: 34Member
    Great. Now that Blizz fucked up the MMO world with solo gameplay that's easy as sh*t, they even allow players to get to lvl 90 in the blink of an eye. I Wonder where they'll stop.
  • DayisonDayison Destin, FLPosts: 2Member
    They left out the most important feature of all, GRINDING.  Oh, wait.  That's not new.  Sorry, never mind...
  • RazeeksterRazeekster Solon, MEPosts: 2,201Member Uncommon
    Originally posted by deniromonk
    Originally posted by Razeekster
    Originally posted by deniromonk
    Originally posted by Razeekster
    Originally posted by deniromonk
    Originally posted by observer

    Craft from bank copied from GW2.

    If anything, the crafting changes were ripped from SWTOR, not GW2.

    As a matter of fact, there are more things ripped from SWTOR in this xpac than any other 1 game (new zone dedicated to pvp only, a la ilium....being able to gain companions who will live at your base.....having said companions gather resources for you, having said companions craft for you etc).

     

    This is hilarious because SWTOR is clone of WoW. It's WoW with a Star Wars skin over it. Also this post is funny in that it suggests SWTOR was the first game to have PvP zones.

    This post is funny because you are trying to detract everyones attention away from the fact that they are completely copying Ilium, by saying that I implied SWTOR invented "PVP Zones". And also, how does SWTOR being a WoW clone in any way detract from the fact that WoW is copying companions, and companion functions, directly from SWTOR?

    I think someone is upset that SWTOR has more things getting copied than other MMOs...

    Are you joking? I don't even like or play WoW but am rational enough to know that WoW is not copying Ilium. They have copied other things from MMOs and that's what they do. They copy features and usually add more polish to them. Also you are implying that SWTOR invented PvP zones because Ilium from SWTOR is not the first ever PvP zone in all of MMORPG history, yet you're implying that WoW is copying SWTOR by adding a PvP zone in the expansion...

    So, we disagree on the fact that they are copying ilium.

    Now, can you tell me which MMO WoW is copying then with the companions and all the different functions these companions will have?

    Companions have been around for years in MMOs. These "functions" you talk about actually existed before SWTOR. I play games from Asian countries and some of the games the companions can craft for you, watch your in-game house for you, watch your shop for you while you go out adventure or whatever it is you want to do, and even make potions for you (in Mabinogi snakes can make poison potions for you which you can use on your weapon, and in turn has a high chance to poison mobs you attack with that weapon).

     

    The companions are not a new thing at all and are certainly not copying SWTOR. In fact I see this as more Asian MMO mechanics finally going into some Western MMOs.

     
     

    Smile

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