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Has Trion explained why Rift now has crappy frame rates?
I had a good year of enjoying this game and thought I'd go back. I had Gtx 275 when the game launched....and it was packed during launch and for a while after. I regularly attained 39-50 fps ( down to maybe 20 fps in busy cities) with almost everything on highest setttings. Ambient occlusion off.
Now..I go back and i have a better PC with an upgrade in Ram CPU, Motherboard and a Gtx 580 with 1gb . Same basic settings as before as I never deleted it from my hard drive. I get about 20 fps just about everywhere with occasional spikes down to around 7fps or so or up to 35-49 then right back down to the still shitty 20 fps range or less . Anyone have a clue why? Or has Trion just completely f*cked over their engine optimization?
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Rift got a really bad Engine that is not supporting the players it has..
even top Cards like Titan, Gtx 780 and so on R9 280X can't get more then 30-40 fps maxed out
Well that sucks. Honestly my GTX 275 looked better...even in the 25-45 fps range it seemed smooth and for the most part unnoticeable . Now..even during the minute or so that I occasionally get around 49 fps..its seems choppy. A drastic change from launch imo.
I would go play Guild Wars 2 instead but I hate that you can't see players in busier areas until they enter the 20 ft radius around your avatar then just pop into sight. I was told they fixed that for PvP and thought they were going to fix that for PvE areas as well...but here..a year later...nothing.
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Well you have a better card ,more ram and ,even at a higher resolution, I can understand why your's is running better than mine. But I can't fathom why my current setup is running worse than my old build. It might be the connecting paths to the server that are gang-bangin' me with big ole' lag spikes.. Idk.
I'll try the forced settings through Nvidia ..thanks for reminding me of that. I know when I did that with a few games...e.g AoC and Fallen Earth...it was like night and day. Providing it is mainly graphic lag and not some other interference.
Just to clarify, you upgraded RAM, CPU, motherboard and GPU, but didn't format your hard drive and reinstall the OS?
If that's the case, I'm surprised you can boot into Windows, let alone play a video game. Normally replacing the motherboard will invalidate your Windows license (which sometimes isn't an issue, depending on which version and how many times it's been activated, or your new motherboard is the same (or similar) model as your old motherboard). Also, driver issues might occur when swapping hardware. Considering how many components you swapped out, you're lucky you can even boot into Windows.
If you really didn't format the hard drive and reinstall the OS, then I recommend doing that right now if you're still having performance issues.
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Most of you dont even rift, that much is obvious, performance is 100% cpu limited (tho im sure some here are proly coming to QQ after trying to run the game on something stupid like a GT 220)
AKA complete lack of multicore/multithread support. They claim 2.5 will have "significant" performance upgrades, so maybe they are adding it. Then again, I highly doubt it. They promised 2.4 would bring part 1 of that, and all they did was add an option to reduce the number of actual pixels rendered at any given resolution. aka make the game look like something from the 90s.
Unless you have a top end rig and are willing to accept framerate that will be slightly above "playable" look elsewhere rift maybe isnt a resource hog but that is only because it cant even utilize 3/4 of your hardwares resources
well good news for you they removed the culling from PVE and PVP in GW2 you can see all the players
or you can set it in options to not show all of them to keep your fps high enough
As far as windows 7..when I called microsoft / windows support they help me activate windows again on the new system. I have done this before in the past. I had copies of my files and settings ( for many games and commonly used programs) on an external drive...I did format the new drive (which I didn't mention getting..sorry) then transferred everything over. I know its a backward ass way and not the best but it was a way not to sit there for hours and download everything again. I've done this a few times with only a few problems....sometimes permissions would get messed up and I'd have go and make adjustments, reconfigure extenders and what not (not really a problem I guess), other setting issues, etc. Other than that I usually experience no severe issues once I get everything situated, perform some tweaks and a registry clean. Especially with gaming.
Anyway...I forced the graphic settings via Nvidia Control panel and had the target file adjusted to clientport 80 and now I get 45-60 fps most times with 23-35 fps in the city and other populated areas. Thanks for all your suggestions and advice everyone involved and a special shout-out to DMKano for reminding me of something I used to do but completely forgot about. I think that advice was the true game changer.
...and yes I logged onto GW2 again and sure enough...much better..culling mostly unnoticeable and on higher settings (set to allow the max view) it looks awesome...no pop-up players . I only get 25-45 fps unless I'm alone or in an instance but it still looks fairly smooth with little choppiness .
Still...I really need a better gpu, the highest end 1155 lga socket cpu i can find , an ssd for OS and a few games and a caviar hd.. Oh well..maybe once I climb out of this hole life has me in for the moment. lol.
The engine is so bad that when I got a 4th gen i7, the game actually ran worse (unplayable 25 fps) than on my Core 2 Duo which makes lots of sense ;D Core 2 Duo > i7.
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I tried to pick it up last week and I didn't notice any fps problems. I had everything on max. Just couldn't enjoy the game. it is missing something
You can't reason someone out of a position they didn't reason themselves into.
Well, if the individual cores were clocked higher and you had a larger memory cache on the processor, the Core 2 Duo probably would have worked better than the quad core i7 (for Rift anyways). The CPU always seems to be the bottleneck on Rift for performance.
i have a much MUCH inferior PC than yours and i was running ARR with everything on ultra at 40-60fps (50-60 everywhere, and around 40 with many people nearby with the occasional spike in the mid 30s).
With Rift maxed out i get around 30+ (below 40) when im alone, anywhere. If there are people around i get between 15 and 30 with an average closer to 25. Back when i first bought my Radeon HD 6950 my fps didnt go that low, now they do (with the same card).
I dont know what is going on there since many PC with different setups get different performance, but Rift definitelly has gotten worse performance wise.
This is the same with me. I have tweaked Rift to have better performance, but it still comes to a crawl with a high number of people on screen, such as the hunt zone events in the Dendrome... meanwhile on FFXIV my computer seems to handle the higher number counts better.
Rift always had crappy performance and that hasn't changed. The issue stems from Rift using a modified version of the Gamebryo engine. It's complete shit and no decent games have used Gamebyro in the past few years.
Edit: I'd also like to confirm that FFXIV: ARR performs better than Rift. FFXIV looks about 10x better than Rift and has much better performance.