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Live Forum Q&A Scott Hartsman - Trion Worlds

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  • Hey Scott. I would first like to say that it's a great honor to even say hi to you. I respect most people in the gaming industry.

    My question for you is this: I am a striving game developer and seek to fulfill my imaginations and create a wonderful piece of art. I understand it takes a ton of hard work and dedication but I'm hoping you can give me some advice. Where should I start? Where did you start? 

    Thanks for your time.

  • HartsmanHartsman Trion Worlds CEO Foster City, CAPosts: 23Member Uncommon

    Originally posted by SkatchKtam

    I simply want to be able to inhabit,and enjoy this game as an MMO, to be my own character in the world of Defiance.

    Hi, Skatch - Good to meet you. :)   I wanted to make sure to at least reply - I think you have good questions, and absolutely admirable desires -- but at that level of detail, they're better aimed at when the Defiance team jumps in here.

     

    Originally posted by DMKano

    I forgot my Archeage questions:

    I play AA on Korean servers and I've heard rumors that XLgames decided to do Russia and China first and US/EU last which would mean that XLGames has unintentionally delayed the US release.

    Does Trion solely get to decide on US/EU release dates, or does XLgames also plan the release dates?

    Also it seems that XLgames is working on adding a lot of new content (including new races, Dwarves and Warborn - yeah!) and revamping some early themepark-style elements into more sandboxy elements - is Trion and XLgames planning to have this completed first before the game is ready for US/EU?

    1. Hopefully addressed in my first massive AA reply!

    2. We have to plan and execute on them together - Since MMOs are online services, launching them isn't at all like doing a territory launch for a single player game.  The teams physically at XL and at Trion both have to be working on the same launch at the same time.  Kind of addressed this in my massive AA reply.

    3. That's one of the big considerations in choice of launch date. If we both decide that having improvements in place will make for the best western launch, it is absolutely possible.  We're both aiming for the combination of "best" and "most reasonable."

     

    Originally posted by DMKano

    Scott,

    In a massively interview you stated the following:

    "The traditional AAA style of development and distribution' is broken"

    followed by

    "With any luck, we'll see more endeavors where the balance of power returns to the product creators and the audiences they're trying to serve in the most direct relationship possible -- where everyone involved is a "product person" whose sole mission is to best serve the customer. That's powerful and exciting."

    It seems that the current model of crazy-expensive games that nobody gets to play until they've been in dev for years is completely ineffective and far too risky.

    it's a lose/lose/lose situation when the AAA game ends up bombing:

    - $100s of millions (potentially) of dollars wasted

    -Years of developer time wasted

    -Disappointed players (after following the game dev for years, the first beta bombs)

     

    Questions:

    How will Trion change the future game development to avoid the above AAA pitfall?

    When can we expect more information on that new game that you hinted at in a recent MMORPG interview "not ready to talk about yet" 

    1. By being unafraid to do entirely new types of experimental development and get folks involved with our efforts a lot earlier in the development cycle.

    2. Ask me that question in like a month? :)

     

    Originally posted by Viciskander

    Hey Scott,

    It's Erik! ;) Are there any plans for an official ArcheAge forum and how is your community management? Is this Interview the beginning for more community work? And, last but not least: is the ArcheAge EU release still going to be accomplished by Trion?

    1. Hi Erik!

    2. Yes, we're sorting through the specifics around the next iteration of what we do for both forums and blogs across the company right now.

    3. Overworked, but in general, they seem all right.

    4. I hope so!

    5. Yes! See previous Huge AA Answer. :)

    Originally posted by Hanthos

    Concerning ArcheAge:

    1) Are there any plans to revert any of the crafting mechanics back to their Korean CBT state, such as item decay?

    2) Has any consideration been given to different rule/server types?

    1. We don't have specific gameplay requests for AA West  at the moment --  XL is already starting to talk about their future plans with their live players, and we'll be following on there.

    2. Not at the moment - That said, I also love the concept of those in general, but they take a shockingly large amount of work.

  • cesmode8cesmode8 Posts: 318Member Uncommon

    Hi,

    Defiance is seriously lacking a social element, whether it be via mapchat, guild chat, social hangouts, vistas, etc.  It lacks any reason to interact with anyone else in the open world.  Like many, I feel like I am playing a single player game in an open world MMO space. 

    What  plans, if any, are in place to address the 'multiplayer' aspect of the game?

  • TorvalTorval Oregon CountryPosts: 7,221Member Uncommon
    As a gamer, what would you like to see the industry focus on or encourage? What do you want to see out of games (single player, online, multi-player, whatever) that just isn't being done or that is rare? What games would you like to see made?
  • HartsmanHartsman Trion Worlds CEO Foster City, CAPosts: 23Member Uncommon

    Originally posted by bcofido

    Hello Scott,

    my name is Fido and i am the operator of "Let´s Play ArcheAge - The german video magazine" on Youtube. At first I want to thank you for being our "interview partner" tonight. Don´t worry, i´ll make it short, the other guys here will ask enough questions about ArcheAge  :)

    1. A few months ago the german ArcheAge community ArcheAge-Online.de held the community event "A letter to Trion Worlds". Some of the letters were handed over to your ArcheAge team at the E3, the complete collection was sent to you by air-mail from Germany. At the time the event happened you didn´t work for Trion Worlds I just wanted to know: Did you ever get these letters?

    2. More an invitation: If you´d like i invite you to be my guest in my Let´s Play series, some chatting and chiling in the sun of Ark included. We can do this in english language of course ;)

    Haha - Thanks, Fido :)

    1. Was gone for quite a while. Didn't know about them - I clearly need to find out what happened to them!

    2. Would love to once life gets back to some semblance of a more calm pattern, as I also mentioned to another gentleman earlier in the thread.  Definitely better for both of us that it would be in english!

    Originally posted by davidber
    As a person who has played Rift since Alpha, why is there no compelling reason to stay a patron? 
     

    Hi!   Absolutely appreciate the support, and hear what you're saying.  While I don't want to stomp on the RIFT team's future answers, It may be wise of us to take a look at what Patron means globally for Trion.  It's a great concept, and we would also like to make sure that folks see it as valuable.

    Originally posted by Kiwidream

    I love Rift, thanks for coming back to keep steering our game. We have just seen Shard Unification take place and I keep reading Daglars statements over and over but the wording implicates more than states so my main questions is:.

    Is this the beginning of the possibility EU & NA shards becoming one region?

    I am also a fansite for Dimensions - riftdreamdimensions.com - and thoroughly appreciate all concepts. Thanks so much! My other inquiry is with Raiding. This current tier of content is so awesome but because of how long it took to get here we have lost many endgame guilds. I fear we will have no hardcore raiders left soon because this content will also be conquered shortly. My inquiries are:

    Will there be any changes in the pace of 20 man content being released? Is there any hope for current raiders to keep playing into 2014?

    Thanks for taking the time Scott and Aloha Grakulen, Chief & everyone at Insomniac Gaming especially Kel :)

    PS Sorry I started a new thread same questions then saw this.
     

    Hey, Kiwi! No worries.

    1. Unlikely on a single region - If only to ensure that there's an optimal experience for folks on both continents (since the EU servers are phyiscally in the EU).

    2. Again, without stepping on RIFT team future answers, the subject of pacing vs update size has been one we've been discussing across both currently live games of late.  That's the most I can really say right now - The owners of the respective games are absolutely trying to do what's best for both groups of players.

     

  • FreasFreas MönchengladbachPosts: 3Member
    a 24/7 alpha
     

     

    Where may i register? ;-)

  • LivnthedreamLivnthedream Salt Lake City, UTPosts: 555Member

    Hi Scott!

    With how important it has become for continues innovation, or atleast the feeling of innovation, how much do you think is really viable? We see many different games trying different kinds of release schedules, like Gw2 with its 2 week updates, Wildstar with "shooting for 5 weeks" and even Rift tried a mostly monthly schedule but those slowed down and have not really returned. Just how much change is really viable over time and still keep your playerbase? Koster's collected "Laws of game design" implies that no matter what you do your player base will shrink as you shed those players who really are not the target of your experience and any attempt to bring in new players will be seen as a betrayal by that player base. Is there a reasonable solution? Only WoW seems to have been able to hop this hurdle and even that appears to be losing the battle.

  • MorgarenMorgaren Richwood, TXPosts: 394Member

    Not rally a question. I take part in extra life every year since RIFT first introduced it to me. I thank you for all the goodies Trion gave extra lifers this year. If anyone wants to check out extra life, here is a link through Team KFM, my Extra Life Team.

     

    http://www.extra-life.org/index.cfm?fuseaction=donorDrive.team&teamID=11526

     

    Thanks again for introducing me to this wonderful charity.

  • HartsmanHartsman Trion Worlds CEO Foster City, CAPosts: 23Member Uncommon

    Originally posted by SilverFang89

    Hi Scott I wanted to thank you for being our guest tonight.

     Now for my question the last news I heard about the release date for Archeage was the end of this year beginning of next. Is there anyway you can give use a more concrete release date?

    Thanks! Good to be here.

    Addressed the release process and how we go about determining the dates each step of the way in another reply - Hope that answer works for you!

    Originally posted by sliverbaer

    Any status on the memory leak that plagues the PS3 Defiance players?  

    Disconnects, Lag, and Lockups are not fun.

    The game is pretty awesome though.  It also got me interested in Rift.

    Overheard an update on this topic today, I don't think the Defiance team would mind if I added a little of their info on this one: Yes, it's absolutely an important topic that's being worked on.  The exact specifics of what's causing it are a little over my head technically, since I've never dealt with memory and PS3, even in my engineering days. 

    Very glad you enjoy it!

    Originally posted by SlothnChunk

    Defiance is one of the most fun MMOs I've ever played. However, the DLC releases are way too slow! You can only run around the map killing random enemies and engaging in sieges for so many hours after completing the main quests.

    What are you doing to speed up DLC development for Defiance?

    The time between launch and DLC1 was really about all of the activities that a game team has to undertake just to get through the day to day of launching their MMO, and dealing with all of the inevitable issues in the weeks and months following.   That they managed to launch DLC1 when they did was pretty heroic. At the same time, I understand that from the outside perspective, that's really not your problem - I do just want to make note of their massive efforts. :)

    From there, the Defiance team at Trion HQ was really only formed up this past month.  They've been working on a rollout plan that has the next DLC coming out toward December, and the rest in a more regular cadence thereafter.  This sounds like snark, but I promise it isn't: "Releasing DLC...faster," now that the game is launched and operating in a more stable manner, is really the truth.

     

    Originally posted by krondin

    Dear Scott .

         I want to ask you a specific question that's a little different then most others you may get here today. I believe there is a great deal number of people who are really looking for this one answer above all else or details about specific games.

     

    Here it goes.......

    We want to know if you and Trion are something we can "Believe in".  A Person/Company we can trust and stand behind .

    We are tired of being mislead , lied to, deceived, and let down, we want a Company to "Believe" in and support.

    HOW WOULD YOU ANSWER THAT QUESTION TO GAIN OUR TRUST? < Give us something to believe in. Say what you mean and Mean what you say, no BS! >

    I personally played rift in beta and 1.5 yrs more, and play defiance since beta. You becoming CEO is the only reason i still want to give trion a chance for my long term game playing dollars. If you had not come back to lead trion i would no longer be playing anything by them. I hope you can give me and others a statement to give us the Hope we want, then Deliver on it in the near future. This is how your foundation is being built as a CEO. What you do and say that ,we the players, believe of it, is how you will be future judged on all things.  

    I Thanks you for reading this and await a reply....

    Happy to: We play games too. 

    I got into this business precisely because I am one of you.  You don't take a 25 year path up from the bottom unless you truly love having the privilege of being able to entertain people. 

    Most of the time, I want the same things you do.  When I hear we can't do something because we don't have X, or we have to rebalance away Y to make sure that we ship at the right quality, sometimes my heart breaks a little too.  

    That said, I want nothing more than to prove that providing genuinely good experiences for gamers, and a great place to work for our teams is the winning, long-term strategy behind successfully operating an online games business.

    We have some karmic digging out to do, no doubt, but if we can make it, it'll be amazing.

     

     

    Originally posted by Lanfea

    1) when do we get back the necessity to socialize in mmorpgs?
    2) after f2p opened the door to the two-class-society (poor and rich) why don't take publishers one more step and offer f2p and p2p servers for the same game?
    3) at which point will investors get that quality makes more money in a long run?
    4) if you, trion worlds, intent to develop a new mmog (read some rumors about) how would you compensate the explosion of costs (i guess it nearly quadruplicated in the last ten years) to present us a high quality game?
    sincerly yours

    lanfea

    Hi, Lanfea!

    1.  Honest answer - When enough people vote with their feet that's the type of game they want to play -- That that aspect is so much more important to them than any other, that they gravitate toward games that contain that type of gameplay, in large numbers.  To date, the opposite has proven the case, despite many attempts at including strong interdependency in different elements in many games.

    2. At least one major MMO has tried this - Since I know the president of that company, I know he's a rational decision maker.  If it were best for his game/company/audience to have kept it that way, he would have.  I have to conclude that it wasn't.

    3. They absolutely do get that.  What they also need, though (since they're responsible for every dollar they choose to invest), is certainty that a game will make enough of a return to justify the cost of high quality.  That's a difficult bet to make.  They have bosses too - When they make bad bets, they lose out the same way that you or I would lose for doing poorly at our jobs.

    Unfortunately, spending large sums does not always equate to the kind of quality that is guaranteed to generate returns on their investment.  (Remember: That's their one job.)

    Add on to that that quality alone does not always equate to success.  (e.g. You could get knocked out by 2 other quality titles releasing the same month, who just happened to spend 10x more on marketing than you could.)   Things start to get more complicated.

    It's a huge reward if you can make it through those risks, but those risks tend to be pretty extreme.

    4. By experimenting with different types of development and starting out by taking more risks across less expensive games, probably across multiple games over time.

     

    Originally posted by IceAge
    Hartsman , who's idea was to make a banner with the following message "You're not in Azeroth anymore", when Rift launched? 

    An agency we were working with came up with the idea for the slogan and campaign. 

    We had a relatively modest amount of money to market with, in a market where people had a lot more than we did to work with.  We needed Rift to be a seven figure seller, which meant having a lot more people know who Trion was and what Rift was about.

    The head of publishing walked up to me showing me this deck, and my first reaction was to simultaneously be appalled while laughing.  I believe my exact reaction was: "Holy shit.  Are they insane?!  There's no WAY we could ever go out with that!"

    He didn't say anything for a beat. 

    And then I caught up to where he was already thinking: "Yep.  This is how they'll notice.  Okay.  I'm in."

    Rift did what it needed to do.  We survived the launch and beyond.  

    I did get a couple good-naturedly pretend-annoyed, "Did you really just do that?"-type IMs from friends at Blizzard.  They saw the humor in it as well, which was important to me.

    And that's the story of that.

  • IceAgeIceAge SomeWhere In ..Posts: 1,013Member Common
    Originally posted by Hartsman

    Originally posted by IceAge
    Hartsman , who's idea was to make a banner with the following message "You're not in Azeroth anymore", when Rift launched? 

    An agency we were working with came up with the idea for the slogan and campaign. 

    We had a relatively modest amount of money to market with, in a market where people had a lot more than we did to work with.  We needed Rift to be a seven figure seller, which meant having a lot more people know who Trion was and what Rift was about.

    The head of publishing walked up to me showing me this deck, and my first reaction was to simultaneously be appalled while laughing.  I believe my exact reaction was: "Holy shit.  Are they insane?!  There's no WAY we could ever go out with that!"

    He didn't say anything for a beat. 

    And then I caught up to where he was already thinking: "Yep.  This is how they'll notice.  Okay.  I'm in."

    Rift did what it needed to do.  We survived the launch and beyond.  

    I did get a couple good-naturedly pretend-annoyed, "Did you really just do that?"-type IMs from friends at Blizzard.  They saw the humor in it as well, which was important to me.

    And that's the story of that.

    Nice story and thanks for the answer. I am glad that they "were" working with you! 

    Other then that, bring Trion back, and along with it, make ArcheAge a GAME, as I kinda lost interest in it in the past few months. Not because of the content (cars, bikini, "modern" party's, etc), but because of ..Trion.

    Good luck.

     

    Reporter: What's behind Blizzard success, and how do you make your gamers happy?
    Blizzard Boss: Making gamers happy is not my concern, making money.. yes!

  • HartsmanHartsman Trion Worlds CEO Foster City, CAPosts: 23Member Uncommon

    Originally posted by Dengar

    First off, glad to be participating in this! I met you once at a gaming convention when some other reporter was talking to you about WoW having such an advantage over RIFT, you mentioning how proud you were of your team, and I kinda stepped in, not immediately recognizing you, saying that I felt like WoW just had the time advantage and that I honestly felt it was Blizzard that was having to catch up to you guys. You just turned to me and said, "Let me shake your hand" and it totally hit me who you were. I was super embarrassed at the time, but obviously it's a memory for me.

    Anyway, big ArcheAge fan here. I was wondering though, if Trion would give any preferred treatment to a certain fansite that's been the center of ArcheAge news since before you guys signed up to localize it. I know they've got a lot of experience with the game in at least Korean, and some of them have played several versions of the game too. Would bringing them in to test before closed beta to the general public perhaps help speed up the game's development and localization?

    Hahaha - Hey! Good to run into you again. :)

    Yes, we expect to be working increasingly closely with dedicated fansites and their communities.  Feedback from the most knowledgeable people, and working it into the development process, is something we strive to do wherever possible.

    Originally posted by Savair

    Heya Scott.

    [Rift] What are your plans for PVP in rift, it's something you said would be supported at the launch of Rift but it hasn't been. In fact it's fair to say that hardly any support has been given to it. Daglar spent a "few" hours on it a few months ago on his day off, is that the type of support that PVP has got to look forward to now?  

    At the current we had a Dev talk about melee changes that was like 20 odd days ago.

     Thanks for your time

    Hi! Don't want to ignore - But that's more of a topic for when the RIFT team's here. 

    Originally posted by Freas

    Scott, i've got a personal question to you:

     Which games are you playing in private?

    Have you already play ArcheAge?

    I started playing Defiance when I came back to Trion a couple months ago, for fun, not for any official work purpose.  The concept of doing massive events in a shooter is really compelling.  As a player, I was really thrilled to see the weapon improvements roll out last week.

    I checked out FFXIV for a little while - I think they did a fantastic job on their relaunch of that game.  It's really great  to see someone succeed at a relaunch.  Their dev team clearly busted ass, and I'm happy for their success.

    The past couple weeks I've been ducking into and out of one of our more off the wall prototypes for both fun and work. 

    Yes, I've played ArcheAge in korean (with numerous cheat sheets - my korean is profoundly terrible), but it's been a while since I've spent large blocks of time there -- That one's next up on deck for me to dive into at real depth.  That will actually begin this weekend. :)

  • CleffyCleffy San Diego, CAPosts: 4,625Member Uncommon

    I have a couple questions related to the cities you develop in.

    1. Did you close down the San Diego studio due to unprofessional management?

    2. There are a lot of MMO developers in San Diego, do you think it would be a good area for developing a middle-ware engine?

    3. What are you thoughts about MMO development in Austin?

    4. Do you think Singapore could be a major player in MMO development similar to how South Korea is now?

  • HanthosHanthos Antelope, CAPosts: 226Member Uncommon

    How close would you say we are to a beta for ArcheAge?

     

    1) Quit staring at your computer and go fix the fence!

    2) Go ahead and accept the beta invite you got from the 'other' game...

    3) Don't get too wrapped up in that new character...

    4) Check your email...

  • HartsmanHartsman Trion Worlds CEO Foster City, CAPosts: 23Member Uncommon

    Originally posted by Torvaldr

    Hi Scott,

    I'm curious what you have to say about other games. Recently in a video interview with MMORPG.com you had some interesting things to say about what MMOs are (Civ had just been released). You mentioned how many games and platforms are MMOs even though we wouldn't traditionally think of them as such. Raph Koster, the last AMA, reflected on how we players keep clamoring for the same games and how devs/pubs keep delivering pretty much the same MMOs.

    With the potential of Red Door publishing, Indies, and niche games, what potential do you see there? What do you think you and Trion could do to promote more niche mmos, different kinds of online games, and how online games could be different or how the concept of MMO could be stretched or reimagined? Basically, what would you like to do with Trion / Red Door that isn't just publishing the next DIKU reskinned (not that previous themparks or dikus are bad, just I think we're ready for something else)?

    You just described my dream application of our platform and operational services -- It's the most powerful combination in the known universe, and I'd love to find a way to use it to help lots of people bring lots of games of all kinds, online.

    I think we start by demonstrating what unexpected things we can bring to life with it ourselves, then see who we can get to join us.

     

    Originally posted by purdysean
    Yes I'm a big fan of Rift been playing since beta i have a serious question though, we see other companies making conventions to support their player base any hope for Trion to have one of their own seeing as you guys do have lots of different aspects of games published already, here you can name it Tricon and do one where your company is located i seriously would ride out to see that convention as many others would as well. Can you please do a convention, please?

    I mentioned conventions a while back - Some of the best times I've had at conventions is when we're able to do fan events there.  We try to do them whenever we can.  (I've personally been to the ones we've done at PAXen and GDC - And we've done them at GamesCom also)

    One of the RIFT developers actually just did an informal "Drinks with the Devs" a couple months ago, before my return, at a local bar.  Put it together himself just because he wanted to. 

    We'd like to figure out how to do more things like both of those. :)

  • HartsmanHartsman Trion Worlds CEO Foster City, CAPosts: 23Member Uncommon

    Originally posted by Foomerang

    1.Your company (Trion) basically set the new pace for content patches in themepark mmos. Do you think this is something that will continue to evolve?

    1B. Has it created a quantity over quality issue in the industry?

    1C. What are your thoughts on dev created content versus player created content?

    1D. How much of the reigns would you be willing to share with your customers as an mmo evolves over years?

     

    Whoa. That's some dense questions.  Smart ones too.  I'll do my best.  Let me grab the half that I can be smartest about.

    1A/1B:

    Yes, it absolutely will.  At the same time, I think that as an industry we've reached the end point of where our current content creation and worldbuilding methodologies can scale, however.   The next meaningful step of that evolution will look a lot different than what many MMOs do today.

    That's why we're seeing more MOBAs (and more systems and/or pvp-based games in general), more initiatives like EQNext, where users end up creating a large number of assets, more dynamically generated worlds in games, and why we see lots more replayable systems inside the MMOs that do exist (events, PvP instances, dynamic content layers, arenas and so on).

    Keeping up with content creation needs in the classic ways has hit its top end.  That model's been pushed as far as it can go.

    We've hit the point where you can have a team of 200 or 300 and still not make content fast enough.  Adding more people doesn't solve the problem due to the diminishing returns of any system that has interdependencies, which all games really are on the inside. 

    There's one build, and the more people you add, the more it breaks.

    If you add 100 to a team of 100, you don't get 100% more content.  You're lucky to get 50% more.  Add 100 to 200 and you don't get 50% more, you're lucky to get 25% more.  Add 100 to 300 and...well...chances are it won't matter how much content you get, because you're not making your payroll unless you're a sustained #1 title - so that 400's going to go back to 50 or 100 anyway.  And that's a separate (huge) problem.

    1C:

    Both have their place.  They can be equally good and bad.  Depends entirely on the type of game and the role that particular type of player-made content plays in that game. 
     
    Example - In a themepark MMO, making an entertaining encounter/raid/dungeon/etc is hard, and as we've all seen with player-made solutions, a lot of what gets made for primary rewards tends to be "how can I make something that's the closest to insert-quarter-get-loot as possible."

    But meanwhile, player content in housing and building are frequently brilliant.  Adding more interactive elements and entertainment options in there is a big winner. 

    Contrast that with a game like Minecraft - Where the players (modders) create entire systems, hell, entire game modes, as well as the content for them that are frequently a blast.  Granted, lots of them have core "this stopped being fun once I got to the 'i win' point" issues (looking at you, infinite energy and mass creation gameplay), but even so, there's a lot of great things out there.

    I think there's an entire range in between those two examples. 

    tl;dr It absolutely has a place, you just need to choose it wisely.

     

    1D:

    Depends on the structure. If you mean via a binding player council of some type, those all turn political and end up based on popularity.  Over time, they become more and more about gaming the social construct than they do about the game itself, which then feeds into the game proper.  The longer it goes on, the less about the game the answers end up becoming.

    If you're creating a political game, sharing the reins like this is probably one of the smartest and most interesting things you could possibly do.  Eve being a great example. People will never disappoint you in their capacity both for great altruism and absolute treachery.

    If you're not making a political game, not a great structure. 

    But, let's turn the tables - What if we're talking about a game that's about what players can create themselves, not one that's depends on "balance" or "storyline" or some element that requires cohesion?  Sure, it could be interesting, if someone came up with the right structure that prevented even that process from ending up political.

     

    Originally posted by nariusseldon

    Scott,

    1) Is TRION considering a f2p model for Defiance?

    2) are there going to be more and continuing support for solo content gameplay?

    3) What is your view about all the latest online game development like MOBA like League of Legend, instanced pvp games like World of Tanks, online ARPGs, and so on .. and will TRION gets into those?

     

    1. If there's one thing that we learned with RIFT, it's that we have to remain open-minded about what to do, as long as it makes sense for the community, the game, and the team responsible.  That said, at the moment, we're focused on delivering live improvements and our DLC commitments.

    2. Not sure if this is a rift or defiance question - But either one is likely better suited to their teams' AMAs!

    3. I love the fact that there are a ton of new types of online games being made -- See my answer regarding our platform and partnership capabilities a little earlier in the thread.  I'd love for us to help bring all kinds of games online, whether we make them or partners do!

     

  • quon2k9quon2k9 Richmond, VAPosts: 15Member Common

    Hello Scott. Long-time Rift/new Defiance player here, just wanted to say, the concept of Defiance is really really cool, but it appears that, in some areas of the game, melding the PC & console users seems to have been hit & miss. I know you've said you don't want to steal any of your dev team's thunder in your responses, but there's a lot of concern among the Defiance playerbase about the future of the game, wondering if the game is ultimately just going to be a gimmick to go along with the show or if making it everything it could be is a priority.

     

    There are so many great things about the game, but also a lot of bugs, glitches & quality-of-life issues, like the aforementioned chat, the poorly-designed menu interface & UI, the roller coaster difficulty (most encounters are too easy, Volge are too difficult for newer players), item inconsistencies, etc, that players would like to see fixed as much/more so than just getting new shinies in the form of additions to the cash shop & content. 

     

    Are these things in-the-works? We all want the DLC's, of course, but we'd also like the things currently in the game to work properly as well. I know that you may not have in-depth info on that, I think everyone just wants to know that these things will eventually be addressed. There hasn't been very much communication on the status of those & other issues &, combined with the layoffs, has Defiance players worried that the game is/will become an afterthought. 

     

    Hoping that won't happen, just started & coaxed a couple of friends to play & we're enjoying it so far, but I can see how things could become monotonous & how some minor annoyances in the game could eventually lead to frustration over time.  The makings of a classic game are there, we just hope that Trion sees that & dedicates the resources towards making Defiance all that it can be. 

     

    Thanks for your time. 

  • HartsmanHartsman Trion Worlds CEO Foster City, CAPosts: 23Member Uncommon

    Originally posted by Deefgb

    Hey Scott. I would first like to say that it's a great honor to even say hi to you. I respect most people in the gaming industry.

    My question for you is this: I am a striving game developer and seek to fulfill my imaginations and create a wonderful piece of art. I understand it takes a ton of hard work and dedication but I'm hoping you can give me some advice. Where should I start? Where did you start? 

    Thanks for your time.

    Hi! Thanks very much.

    I started by desperately wanting to build a thing.  Then I realized I had no idea how to build a thing.  So I forced myself to learn how to build that thing.

    That thing was an electronic D&D character creator and character sheet printer.

    I forced myself to learn BASIC and create one.  It probably took me 1000x longer than it would have taken an actual programmer.

    But it WORKED and I MADE IT!  I was about 13. 

    Then I figured out what I wanted to make next... and so on.

    Did I mention the internet didn't really exist then?  Even figuring out what I needed to learn involved bookstores, browsing books to figure out which of these things could even teach me the right things, then buying them and forcing myself to learn things chapter by chapter, including doing the exercises.

    My advice is pretty simple:

    Figure out the thing you desperately want to make. Then learn how to make it. 

    Oh, and don't quit until you've done it.  That's really the important part.

    You have a massive advantage on me: You have google.  :)

     

    Originally posted by cesmode8

    Hi,

    Defiance is seriously lacking a social element, whether it be via mapchat, guild chat, social hangouts, vistas, etc.  It lacks any reason to interact with anyone else in the open world.  Like many, I feel like I am playing a single player game in an open world MMO space. 

    What  plans, if any, are in place to address the 'multiplayer' aspect of the game?

    Better question for the defiance team - But yes, the social aspects are vital.  The game really, really excels at overworld/event/coop.  Social is a massive improvement to that experience.  It's important to them to make that part shine.

     

    Originally posted by Torvaldr
    As a gamer, what would you like to see the industry focus on or encourage? What do you want to see out of games (single player, online, multi-player, whatever) that just isn't being done or that is rare? What games would you like to see made?

    I don't want to ignore your question, because it's a great one -- At the same time, the best answer that I could give you right now wouldn't be the most coherent in the universe, since that's not a space my head's been able to be more than part time lately.  :)   My thoughts on the subject are many, but unfortunately, very scattered.

  • HartsmanHartsman Trion Worlds CEO Foster City, CAPosts: 23Member Uncommon

    Originally posted by Freas

    a 24/7 alpha
     

    Where may i register? ;-)

    http://www.archeagegame.com/ ; for starters, more specific elements to be determined later. I suspect that if it doesn't happen, I'll be getting a mail from you on this site anyway. :)

     

    Originally posted by Livnthedream

    Hi Scott!

    With how important it has become for continues innovation, or atleast the feeling of innovation, how much do you think is really viable?

    We see many different games trying different kinds of release schedules, like Gw2 with its 2 week updates, Wildstar with "shooting for 5 weeks" and even Rift tried a mostly monthly schedule but those slowed down and have not really returned. Just how much change is really viable over time and still keep your playerbase?

    Koster's collected "Laws of game design" implies that no matter what you do your player base will shrink as you shed those players who really are not the target of your experience and any attempt to bring in new players will be seen as a betrayal by that player base. Is there a reasonable solution? Only WoW seems to have been able to hop this hurdle and even that appears to be losing the battle.

    Hi!

    1. I think a lot of it is viable, it's just a matter of at what scope.  The smaller scope you have, the greater flexibility you have to innovate.

    2. That's a great question.  For theme park MMOs in particular -- It depends a lot on what you're changing.  If you're changing core mechanics, less frequent (to a point) is better.  If you're adding new content using existing mechanics, more frequent can be safe.

    3. I don't think Raph would have meant to say that "any" attempt to bring in new players will be seen as a betrayal - But "extreme" attempts certainly will. 

    The trick is to bring in new players in ways that don't impact the existing ones - For instance, RIFT adding housing.  Not a big impact to existing players.  Spawned a new audience who really likes that.  Net positive.

    I have to imagine that what Raph was referring to was trying things like the SWG NGE, and everyone's opinion on what happened there is pretty well documented already, so I won't rehash it here.

     

    Originally posted by Morgaren

    Not rally a question. I take part in extra life every year since RIFT first introduced it to me. I thank you for all the goodies Trion gave extra lifers this year. If anyone wants to check out extra life, here is a link through Team KFM, my Extra Life Team.

    http://www.extra-life.org/index.cfm?fuseaction=donorDrive.team&teamID=11526

    Thanks again for introducing me to this wonderful charity.

     

    Awesome!  Even though you're not on our team this year, I wish you a big year of helping others. :)

     

  • TorvalTorval Oregon CountryPosts: 7,221Member Uncommon
    Originally posted by Hartsman

    Originally posted by Torvaldr
    As a gamer, what would you like to see the industry focus on or encourage? What do you want to see out of games (single player, online, multi-player, whatever) that just isn't being done or that is rare? What games would you like to see made?

    I don't want to ignore your question, because it's a great one -- At the same time, the best answer that I could give you right now wouldn't be the most coherent in the universe, since that's not a space my head's been able to be more than part time lately.  :)   My thoughts on the subject are many, but unfortunately, very scattered.

    That's okay. I can see by your answers that your minds in a different place it was when you did your last video interview here with Bill and team and also different from when you were launching Rift. It's most interesting to me to see where you're headspace is and what your answers are. The last AMA with Raph Koster was interesting too. It wasn't what I expected and I learned interesting things despite all the SWG questions.

    One last question from me. If you were perusing a site like this, who would you like to see do an AMA? I know you can probably email/text/IM most of them, still the forum is a bit different than personal communication.

    Thanks for all your time.

  • HartsmanHartsman Trion Worlds CEO Foster City, CAPosts: 23Member Uncommon

    Originally posted by Cleffy

    I have a couple questions related to the cities you develop in.

      2. There are a lot of MMO developers in San Diego, do you think it would be a good area for developing a middle-ware engine?

    3. What are you thoughts about MMO development in Austin?

    4. Do you think Singapore could be a major player in MMO development similar to how South Korea is now?

    I apologize for not keeping all your questions in - I'm happy to share opinions on the industry in general :)

    2. Good question - Honestly hard to say. I haven't lived there in something like 7 years now, and have never really tried creating middleware.  There's definitely talented folks in the area, though!

    3. I think there's a lot of solid, smart people developing MMOs in Austin.  The ones I know all have jobs already doing that, though (just on the off chance you were thinking about asking them to make middleware in San Diego...)

    4. Interesting -- I think the challenge there would be one of raw numbers - Since they're 1/10th the population of Korea, they'd likely have to have 100% gamer density just to begin to think about it.  Possible, but likely not at the same scale.

    At the same time, smaller population probably means it's easier to give everyone the near-perfect infrastructure the way Korea has.

     

    Originally posted by Hanthos

    How close would you say we are to a beta for ArcheAge?

     

    1) Quit staring at your computer and go fix the fence!

    2) Go ahead and accept the beta invite you got from the 'other' game...

    3) Don't get too wrapped up in that new character...

    4) Check your email...

    Love this question.

    Accept beta invites, but don't get too wrapped up in them - But if your fence is broken, you should stop checking your email and fix it.

    I hope that helped.   :)

     

    And on that note, it appears to be about two hours past the end of the Q&A time - Thank you all for your questions.

    I had fun staying late to answer as many as I could.  This was a blast.  Looking forward to doing it again!

     

    - Scott

     

     

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