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  • AmjocoAmjoco Layton, UTPosts: 4,777Member Uncommon
    Great game, just don't want to pay the sub. Many other games out there that have way more content and you pay the same price. Heck, some are even B2P. Things are changing and that $14.99 a month stamp on new titles needs to be deleted. /shrug 

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  • Ender4Ender4 milwaukee, WIPosts: 2,253Member


    Originally posted by Amjoco
    Great game, just don't want to pay the sub. Many other games out there that have way more content and you pay the same price. Heck, some are even B2P. Things are changing and that $14.99 a month stamp on new titles needs to be deleted. /shrug 

    This hits the casual player a lot harder too. Right now I'm gaming maybe 15-20 hours a week and I don't generally spend it all on just one game. If I were a hardcore player spending 40 hours a week on a game then yea the monthly doesn't bother me at all. There just haven't been any MMORPG worth playing like that in a while and it is tough for me to find the time for it and even if I do I don't generally care to just play one game given the variety we have out there.

  • AmjocoAmjoco Layton, UTPosts: 4,777Member Uncommon
    Originally posted by Ender4

     


    Originally posted by Amjoco
    Great game, just don't want to pay the sub. Many other games out there that have way more content and you pay the same price. Heck, some are even B2P. Things are changing and that $14.99 a month stamp on new titles needs to be deleted. /shrug 

     

    This hits the casual player a lot harder too. Right now I'm gaming maybe 15-20 hours a week and I don't generally spend it all on just one game. If I were a hardcore player spending 40 hours a week on a game then yea the monthly doesn't bother me at all. There just haven't been any MMORPG worth playing like that in a while and it is tough for me to find the time for it and even if I do I don't generally care to just play one game given the variety we have out there.

    Ya! I can afford the sub for a couple different games a month. I just don't want to waste my money on something that doesnt offer as much. Like I said, the game is good but compared to even something like WoW that has years of content out, it isn't worth it to me. 

    Titles should release at about $6.99 a month, and go up a dollar every year they are running until they hit the $14.99 limit. :)

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  • reeereeereeereee Posts: 1,197Member Uncommon

    I blame the terrible combat for content getting old so fast. 

     

    The huge replayability that should be there with 9 different combat classes for each character loses it's shine quickly because no matter which class you choose it's still the same stale combat.

  • didjeramadidjerama MirPosts: 201Member
    Originally posted by Foomerang

    I see less evidence of bad mmos everywhere and more evidence of just generally unhappy people. A game isn't going to fix that.

    They are not totally bad MMOs, but theyre not good either. They are just medicore AND (in addition to being medicore) clones of 10-15 years old game that most played to death already.

    Thats kills them very fast for vast majority of people, it lasts as long as novelty/new shiny. But when that wears off..

  • masterbroodmasterbrood Rialto, CAPosts: 62Member
    Originally posted by Fendel84M
    Some people think 8 hours a day is casual or even moderate. I'm sorry anything more than say 3 hours a day max is more than average. That's a part time job.

    This.

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  • JacobinJacobin Toronto, ONPosts: 697Member Uncommon

    A lot of the more end-game focused people are losing interest at this point for good reason.

     

    All there is to do is kill the 3 bosses in Coil which takes about an hour, then cap out the other 150 myth tokens.

     

    There is Twintania, but a lot of people are just sick of wiping over and over to a bugged or seemingly random / obscure mechanic. It almost like SE is leaving a broken fight in the game on purpose just to hold on to subs.

     

    By now so many people have tons of item level 90 gear that if the fight ever gets fixed everyone will easily be able to kill it, so who cares.

     

    2.1 is releasing content that everyone will already be over-geared for so it will also be a joke in terms of progression.

     

    Alt classes are also fairly pointless since you can only do coil once and can only get 300 myth a week.

     

     

  • FoomerangFoomerang Portland, ORPosts: 5,564Member Uncommon


    Originally posted by didjerama
    Originally posted by Foomerang I see less evidence of bad mmos everywhere and more evidence of just generally unhappy people. A game isn't going to fix that.
    They are not totally bad MMOs, but theyre not good either. They are just medicore AND (in addition to being medicore) clones of 10-15 years old game that most played to death already.

    Thats kills them very fast for vast majority of people, it lasts as long as novelty/new shiny. But when that wears off..



    Meh, depends on what you do. The stuff that I am enjoying in FFXIV I have not done in an mmo before.
  • DamonVileDamonVile Vancouver, BCPosts: 4,818Member
    Originally posted by didjerama
    Originally posted by Foomerang

    I see less evidence of bad mmos everywhere and more evidence of just generally unhappy people. A game isn't going to fix that.

    They are not totally bad MMOs, but theyre not good either. They are just medicore AND (in addition to being medicore) clones of 10-15 years old game that most played to death already.

    Thats kills them very fast for vast majority of people, it lasts as long as novelty/new shiny. But when that wears off..

    they're like eating popcorn. You can get full doing it, but it doesn't satisfy that hunger, which is the reason you started eating in the first place.

    Most of these games are fun to play but they're pretty shallow and the old tricks that worked as time sinks don't work as well anymore.

  • aesperusaesperus Hamshire, NVPosts: 5,128Member Uncommon
    Originally posted by Foomerang

    Originally posted by didjerama

    Originally posted by Foomerang I see less evidence of bad mmos everywhere and more evidence of just generally unhappy people. A game isn't going to fix that.
    They are not totally bad MMOs, but theyre not good either. They are just medicore AND (in addition to being medicore) clones of 10-15 years old game that most played to death already.

     

    Thats kills them very fast for vast majority of people, it lasts as long as novelty/new shiny. But when that wears off..


    Meh, depends on what you do. The stuff that I am enjoying in FFXIV I have not done in an mmo before.

    Name 1 thing to do in FFXIV that hasn't been done before?

  • FoomerangFoomerang Portland, ORPosts: 5,564Member Uncommon


    Originally posted by aesperus
    Originally posted by Foomerang Originally posted by didjerama Originally posted by Foomerang I see less evidence of bad mmos everywhere and more evidence of just generally unhappy people. A game isn't going to fix that.
    They are not totally bad MMOs, but theyre not good either. They are just medicore AND (in addition to being medicore) clones of 10-15 years old game that most played to death already.   Thats kills them very fast for vast majority of people, it lasts as long as novelty/new shiny. But when that wears off..
    Meh, depends on what you do. The stuff that I am enjoying in FFXIV I have not done in an mmo before.
    Name 1 thing to do in FFXIV that hasn't been done before?

    whoosh.
  • Soki123Soki123 Kelowna, BCPosts: 1,478Member Uncommon
    Originally posted by aesperus
    Originally posted by Foomerang

    Originally posted by didjerama

    Originally posted by Foomerang I see less evidence of bad mmos everywhere and more evidence of just generally unhappy people. A game isn't going to fix that.
    They are not totally bad MMOs, but theyre not good either. They are just medicore AND (in addition to being medicore) clones of 10-15 years old game that most played to death already.

     

    Thats kills them very fast for vast majority of people, it lasts as long as novelty/new shiny. But when that wears off..


    Meh, depends on what you do. The stuff that I am enjoying in FFXIV I have not done in an mmo before.

    Name 1 thing to do in FFXIV that hasn't been done before?

    Not sure he s saying that. I m assuming he s saying he s enjoying stuff in FFXIV, that he doesn t in other games. As far as the topic, I m still rather enjoying the game, but I m taking my time, big time.

  • ForeverdreamForeverdream burkesville, KYPosts: 94Member

    haven't been on  here in a couple days, this thread really exploded, finished off my 6th job today (whm), I did not read everypost but did skim.  MMO's aren't worlds anymore, Worlds offer tons of content where themeparks do not.  I'm not knocking FF at all either, i love the game. Just wish the end game had more to offer. Oh and 2.1 isn't really got me looking all excited to be honest...

     

    To answer a few common questions: 

    - After your first 50, you get 50% EXP Bonus exp (Fates,Mobs etc)

    -  I maximize my time while im on and don't waste it it like many seem to do

    -  No you can't have my stuff.

     

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    I have unsubbed, finishing out the month and may put it down till 2.1(maybe...) With cystal tower being ilvl80 it kinda saddens me that, well, I'll be in the same spot, grinding the rest of my allegan gears. 

  • AoriAori Carbondale, ILPosts: 1,886Member Uncommon
    Originally posted by Foreverdream

    -  I maximize my time while im on and don't waste it it like many seem to do

     

    Grats on your 6th level 50, sounds like a lot of wasted time since you'll be quitting.

  • masterbroodmasterbrood Rialto, CAPosts: 62Member
    Originally posted by aesperus
    Originally posted by Foomerang

    Originally posted by didjerama

    Originally posted by Foomerang I see less evidence of bad mmos everywhere and more evidence of just generally unhappy people. A game isn't going to fix that.
    They are not totally bad MMOs, but theyre not good either. They are just medicore AND (in addition to being medicore) clones of 10-15 years old game that most played to death already.

     

    Thats kills them very fast for vast majority of people, it lasts as long as novelty/new shiny. But when that wears off..


    Meh, depends on what you do. The stuff that I am enjoying in FFXIV I have not done in an mmo before.

    Name 1 thing to do in FFXIV that hasn't been done before?

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  • didjeramadidjerama MirPosts: 201Member
    Originally posted by Soki123
    Originally posted by aesperus
    Originally posted by Foomerang

    Originally posted by didjerama

    Originally posted by Foomerang I see less evidence of bad mmos everywhere and more evidence of just generally unhappy people. A game isn't going to fix that.
    They are not totally bad MMOs, but theyre not good either. They are just medicore AND (in addition to being medicore) clones of 10-15 years old game that most played to death already.

     

    Thats kills them very fast for vast majority of people, it lasts as long as novelty/new shiny. But when that wears off..


    Meh, depends on what you do. The stuff that I am enjoying in FFXIV I have not done in an mmo before.

    Name 1 thing to do in FFXIV that hasn't been done before?

    Not sure he s saying that. I m assuming he s saying he s enjoying stuff in FFXIV, that he doesn t in other games. As far as the topic, I m still rather enjoying the game, but I m taking my time, big time.

    How does that exactly work?

    You intentionally drag things out just so they last longer?

    So you dont kill something in 10 seconds but drag it out to 10 minutes?

    You can "take time" in any MMO, but at least now, i can "take my time" for free in pretty much same game as FFXIV, "Taking time" in FFXIV cost money on top of everythin else.

  • HyanmenHyanmen KolkkalaPosts: 5,354Member Uncommon
    Originally posted by didjerama

    How does that exactly work?

    You intentionally drag things out just so they last longer?

    So you dont kill something in 10 seconds but drag it out to 10 minutes?

    You can "take time" in any MMO, but at least now, i can "take my time" for free in pretty much same game as FFXIV, "Taking time" in FFXIV cost money on top of everythin else.

    Generic Fantasy MMO #10237 is not a Final Fantasy MMO.

    If this is not the case for you, I can only say I feel terribly sorry for you.

    As for taking one's time, the attitude that the game doesn't "begin" at level 50. It's as simple as that. Getting rid of the thought that "gear doesn't matter at this level", or "I can make money at the level cap". You can rush if you want to, that doesn't mean every level doesn't have something to offer if you welcome it with open hands.

    "Housing is standard in most mmo's."
    - yolteotl79

  • crasset15crasset15 TallinnPosts: 183Member
    Welcome to hardcore gaming. Find 10+ games to play actively, or prepare to be utterly bored. 10 hours a day isn't even a lot. Some people are simply unemployed and have low interest in real life socialising, which leaves almost all their awake time to gaming. I used to average 15-18 hours gaming time per day when I was unemployed after high school. Of course I got burned out on every game I picked up, and I can't even be bothered to blame the games. It's my lifestyle that was out of the ordinary.
  • didjeramadidjerama MirPosts: 201Member
    Originally posted by Hyanmen
    Originally posted by didjerama

    How does that exactly work?

    You intentionally drag things out just so they last longer?

    So you dont kill something in 10 seconds but drag it out to 10 minutes?

    You can "take time" in any MMO, but at least now, i can "take my time" for free in pretty much same game as FFXIV, "Taking time" in FFXIV cost money on top of everythin else.

    Generic Fantasy MMO #10237 is not a Final Fantasy MMO.

    If this is not the case for you, I can only say I feel terribly sorry for you.

    As for taking one's time, the attitude that the game doesn't "begin" at level 50. It's as simple as that. Getting rid of the thought that "gear doesn't matter at this level", or "I can make money at the level cap". You can rush if you want to, that doesn't mean every level doesn't have something to offer if you welcome it with open hands.

    Same game, different scenery. Scenery only goes so far. (btw i picked up FF in last century)

    And still, a lot of words to say nothing.

    Give examples of "taking time". You hit level 33. How do you "take time"?

    The only message i get from "taking time" is: "i know the game doesnt offer much and is shallow so i intentionally (needlessly) drag things out in desperate attempt to like it for longer"

  • HyanmenHyanmen KolkkalaPosts: 5,354Member Uncommon
    Originally posted by didjerama

    Same game, different scenery. Scenery only goes so far. (btw i picked up FF in last century)

    And still, a lot of words to say nothing.

    Give examples of "taking time". You hit level 33. How do you "take time"?

    The only message i get from "taking time" is: "i know the game doesnt offer much and is shallow so i intentionally (needlessly) drag things out in desperate attempt to like it for longer"

    I mentioned two perfectly concrete examples and you chose to dismiss them outright. I spend time to equip myself so that I can perform to my best ability on many different roles (I level a DPS, tank and healer class simultaneously so I can fully appreciate the instances from all perspectives, as they play quite differently depending on the role). All this I do without blowing all my gil in the process, utilizing the crafting and gathering systems to make money at any given level range, while equipping myself to the teeth.

    Last night I did several Brayflox's Longstop instances (lvl32+) to obtain the thus-far best looking equipment out there for my warrior and scholar. The dungeon is easily the best so far and I had a blast playing it as a tank and a healer. To top it off I got the mage body piece as well as the dps body piece for my pugilist. My monk on the other hand did the lvl18 instance for leveling purposes and there I taught a tank how to mark mobs and tank better, which she was quite thankful for. That made my night pretty much.

    While at this stage (30+) quests are not giving me enough exp to support leveling two classes simultaneously without resorting to grinding by doing every quest there is (unlike previously), the dungeons have started to become so fun that I can save the quest exp for my monk and obtain the full mage and tank set from the instance and level up in the process.

    Either way if you don't respect what I'm saying enough to not dismiss them so arrogantly, we're done here. What you seem unable or unwilling to grasp, is that everything I do I do because I enjoy it immensely. I don't play games I don't enjoy.

    "Housing is standard in most mmo's."
    - yolteotl79

  • Oph8Oph8 whydoyouneedtoknow, CAPosts: 177Member

    I can agree with the OP a little bit on this. I'm burnt out as well due to grinding the hell out of fates due to the lack of having interest in the story. I have always been a huge fan of the FF series but I found the story to be boring so I started fate grinding and light dungeon grinding (whenever I could get in a dungeon) boost up my toon. I'm still subbed right now, I log in the game to run a few questages with the mates but I may be canceling soon.

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  • GravargGravarg Harker Heights, TXPosts: 3,332Member Uncommon
    I'm in the same boat.  After about my 5th 50, I was losing interest.  I probably played it way too much is the main cause.  For some reason it just doesn't have the appeal of FFXI, which I was hoping for.  FFXI is my favorite PvE MMO of all time :)  I'll probably come back after a while and see what has changed.
  • didjeramadidjerama MirPosts: 201Member
    Originally posted by Hyanmen
    Originally posted by didjerama

    Same game, different scenery. Scenery only goes so far. (btw i picked up FF in last century)

    And still, a lot of words to say nothing.

    Give examples of "taking time". You hit level 33. How do you "take time"?

    The only message i get from "taking time" is: "i know the game doesnt offer much and is shallow so i intentionally (needlessly) drag things out in desperate attempt to like it for longer"

    I mentioned two perfectly concrete examples and you chose to dismiss them outright. I spend time to equip myself so that I can perform to my best ability on many different roles (I level a DPS, tank and healer class simultaneously so I can fully appreciate the instances from all perspectives, as they play quite differently depending on the role). All this I do without blowing all my gil in the process, utilizing the crafting and gathering systems to make money at any given level range, while equipping myself to the teeth.

    Last night I did several Brayflox's Longstop instances (lvl32+) to obtain the thus-far best looking equipment out there for my warrior and scholar. The dungeon is easily the best so far and I had a blast playing it as a tank and a healer. To top it off I got the mage body piece as well as the dps body piece for my pugilist. My monk on the other hand did the lvl18 instance for leveling purposes and there I taught a tank how to mark mobs and tank better, which she was quite thankful for. That made my night pretty much.

    While at this stage (30+) quests are not giving me enough exp to support leveling two classes simultaneously without resorting to grinding by doing every quest there is (unlike previously), the dungeons have started to become so fun that I can save the quest exp for my monk and obtain the full mage and tank set from the instance and level up in the process.

    Either way if you don't respect what I'm saying enough to not dismiss them so arrogantly, we're done here. What you seem unable or unwilling to grasp, is that everything I do I do because I enjoy it immensely. I don't play games I don't enjoy.

    So you level 3 classes simultaneously, you grind lvl30 dungeon and somehow youre "taking it slow" lol

    As i said, intentionaly (needlessly) dragging it out because you know game is severly lacking in content.

  • EdliEdli TiranaPosts: 941Member
    Originally posted by didjerama

    As i said, intentionaly (needlessly) dragging it out because you know game is severly lacking in content.

    I'm doing the same. I didn't do it because the game lacked content, I had no idea how much content it had on endgame when I started lv up several classes at the same time.

    I just don't really feel the need to be in endgame as soon as possible. There is a game where I'm at too and I'm enjoying it. Endgame will have to wait, is not going anywhere anyway. 

  • HyanmenHyanmen KolkkalaPosts: 5,354Member Uncommon
    Originally posted by Edli
    Originally posted by didjerama

    As i said, intentionaly (needlessly) dragging it out because you know game is severly lacking in content.

    I'm doing the same. I didn't do it because the game lacked content, I had no idea how much content it had on endgame when I started lv up several classes at the same time.

    I just don't really feel the need to be in endgame as soon as possible. There is a game where I'm at too and I'm enjoying it. Endgame will have to wait, is not going anywhere anyway. 

    Well now that's just a big fat lie. didjerama knows the truth and the truth is we are so afraid of running out of content at the level cap we desperately cling to the lower levels "needlessly". It doesn't matter that we feel every level is equal, that's just us lying to ourselves.

    I hope you can find it in you to stop fooling yourself, too, and start accepting the Jesu....didjerama as your one and only savior.

    "Housing is standard in most mmo's."
    - yolteotl79

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