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Nvidia announces upcoming GeForce GTX 780 Ti, due in November, no specs yet

QuizzicalQuizzical Member Posts: 16,738 Epic

Presumably it's in response to AMD's upcoming Radeon R9 290X.

The card has to be faster than the GeForce GTX 780 to have a point, but there isn't that much space between the current GeForce GTX 780 and GeForce GTX Titan.  Recall that those two cards are both based on the same GK110 GPU chip, and have the same memory bandwidth.  The GPU chip has 15 SMXes physically present, of which 14 are active on Titan and 12 on the GTX 780--but the latter clocks them higher.

I'd expect Nvidia to make the GTX 780 Ti into a gaming card all the way through, and cripple the GPU compute capabilities.  And then I'd expect Nvidia to make the GTX 780 Ti about as fast as Titan for gaming--or possibly faster.  Nvidia will likely make it a 3 GB card rather than 6 GB for Titan, and may well let it burn more power than Titan.  Then the GTX 780 Ti will be priced about where it makes sense as compared to the R9 290X, and the GTX 780 will probably get a price cut.

If Nvidia goes that route, Titan will stay at $1000, but will be quite clearly not be a gaming card, since you'll be able to get the same gaming performance perhaps $300-$400 cheaper.  Titan will remain Nvidia's entry-level GPU compute card.

Early pricing leaks on the Radeon R9 290X point to a price tag around $700, but that may be an overestimate, as early price leaks often overshoot the final retail price.  Remember that the Radeon R9 280X is now $300, and charging $700 for a card that might be 1/3 faster than that seems excessive.  It's not that AMD wants lower prices; rather, my reasoning is that if AMD were going to charge $700 for an R9 290X, they'd be charging a lot more than $300 for the Radeon R9 280X.  I wouldn't be at all surprised to see a Radeon R9 290 for $400 and Radeon R9 290X for $500.

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  • DMKanoDMKano Gamercentral, AKMember Posts: 13,476 Legendary

    Interesting, is a there really much of a market segment at that price point?

  • QuizzicalQuizzical Member Posts: 16,738 Epic
    Originally posted by DMKano
    Interesting, is a there really much of a market segment at that price point?

    Top end cards have hovered around $500-$600 for many years.

    Radeon X1950 XTX for $500

    GeForce 8800 GTX for $600

    GeForce 8800 Ultra for $800

    GeForce GTX 280 for $650

    GeForce GTX 285 for $400

    Radeon HD 5870 for $400

    GeForce GTX 480 for $500 (which was ridiculous, by the way)

    GeForce GTX 580 for $500

    Radeon HD 7970 for $550

    GeForce GTX Titan for $1000

    If there were no market at $500 or $600, they'd stop pricing cards like that.

  • RidelynnRidelynn Fresno, CAMember Posts: 5,182 Rare

    You could go back as far as Voodoo cards and find the $500 +/- price point.

    I think the real question would be how much of a market is there in the $1,000 price point. I think that's more of a marketing stunt than a profitable niche - but then again, I thought that was more or less the point of the $500 market too.

  • ClassicstarClassicstar rotjeknorMember Posts: 2,661 Uncommon

    Unless they gonne pull a 8800gt stunt i don't think nvidia will be close to 500 point rather 700.

    AMD if they wanne compete have to stay around 500 but the questions what it will do on benchmarks closer to titan or just about 780?

    AMD only chance now is if card is near titan's performance and price tag of around 400-500.

    AMD 280X oc is 260 euro's here around 300$ i think

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  • RidelynnRidelynn Fresno, CAMember Posts: 5,182 Rare


    Originally posted by Classicstar
    Unless they gonne pull a 8800gt stunt i don't think nvidia will be close to 500 point rather 700.AMD if they wanne compete have to stay around 500 but the questions what it will do on benchmarks closer to titan or just about 780?AMD only chance now is if card is near titan's performance and price tag of around 400-500.AMD 280X oc is 260 euro's here around 300$ i think

    What?

    Why does it have to perform equally to Titan at half the price to even have a chance? That doesn't make any sense at all.

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