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are you a Leader or a Follower in your mmo gaming?

TribeofOneTribeofOne Wellford, SCPosts: 1,006Member Uncommon

I'm a follower. After years of mmo gaming I have come to recognize this about myself and how it shapes my enjoyment of games.

Do you think that your disposition of being leader or follower effects your preference in Themeparks or Sandboxes?

What do you look for in a leader?

what do you look for in a follower?

Do you think your preference of being leader or follower effects how you approach grouping?

For you followers, how do you go about finding a leader in mmos? can you enjoy a grouping game without finding that leader?

 

discuss please. I'm looking for insights that could help.

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  • FinalFikusFinalFikus Chicago, ILPosts: 906Member

    Good question.

    I put follower.

    I would rather inspire the leaders. Or give them a cause that requires a leader. I 'll lead newbs to that cause if possible, but I'd rather see others enjoying the game with me. Flipping that hardcore switch in people is pretty neat, pretty easy too.

    They don't make too many games like that anymore. EVE or Darkfall maybe.

    Just being a guild leader that maybe organizes pve events, I could care less about.

     

    Edit: I approach joining guilds or groups probably differently than most. I prefer to reach or get close to my own goals before joining others. I prefer to be an asset if I can. I dont like asking others to help achieve my goals or being used to reach theirs.

    I usually join guilds when I can offer more than ill require, which isnt often.

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  • AldersAlders Jack Burton'sPosts: 1,857Member Uncommon

    Used to be a leader.

    Never putting myself through that aggravation ever again.

    Tell me what you want me to do and I'll do it!

  • LobotomistLobotomist ZagrebPosts: 5,055Member Uncommon

    Follower. And the confused one to boot.

    You know the one that is always way back trying to find where the hell everyone went ?

    hehe

     

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  • fivorothfivoroth LondonPosts: 3,665Member Uncommon
    @lobotomist,I am the same. I always wonder where everyone went. Especially in MMOs where you skip lots of mobs in dungeons.

    Btw what do leaders do in MMOs? Do you mean like guild leaders who do all the organising of raids etc? If thats what you mean, I am definitely not a leader. This is extremely time consuming and mentally exhausting.

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  • monochrome19monochrome19 Chicago, ILPosts: 454Member Uncommon

    Both.

    I typically play Warlock/Summoner classes so I can do everything my self. But if a good leader comes along i have no problem following them into the inferno. BUT! If the "leader"/tank is terrible I have no problem using my pet to tank and leaving them behind or leading a group to victory. This is all in PvE though.

    In PvP I am always 100% the leader.

    Because, I want everyone to know whose responsible for whatever opponent I destroy.

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  • PWN_FACEPWN_FACE SeoulPosts: 670Member

    I'm an introvert and I need to lead at work. So when I game, I like to relax and follow a competent leader.

     

    Competent leader: Handles conflicts well, has a sense of humor, is fair and mature, gets results, and has fun playing the game. Someone who yells, insults, and belittles is not a competent leader (in my book).

  • FusionFusion VaasaPosts: 1,391Member Uncommon

    Been an officer a few times and i've noticed i don't like the added "responsibility", so i voted follower. I rather not have my gaming experience hindered by duties and responsibilities, not that i can't, i just don't enjoy it enough to warrant it.

    I'm all happy at the back of the bus.

    In a group / guild / clan, leaders will always emerge, when none are "chosen". pre-chosen (friends of the GM, first ones to join, oldest members) are generally worst "leaders" & officers from what i've experienced and those that emerge are the better ones.

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  • PWN_FACEPWN_FACE SeoulPosts: 670Member
    Originally posted by Fusion

     

    In a group / guild / clan, leaders will always emerge, when none are "chosen". pre-chosen (friends of the GM, first ones to join, oldest members) are generally worst "leaders" & officers from what i've experienced and those that emerge are the better ones.

    Absolutely. 

    Same in RL, too.

  • Swids2010Swids2010 plymouthPosts: 244Member

    LEADER. Initially not by choice when me and my brothers first started playing MMO's (ME +2 brothers) they wanted me to start a guild we ran it together but I was always the big push for progress. During my first mmo we met 7 people who we still game with today. If we ever start a new MMO it always fall to me to start guild but I don't mind anymore because I know i'll have at least half a dozen decent officers under me.

    About a year ago I joined a big US guild sinister swarm and to start with was happy just following but after a while there rules which were substantial and sometimes to the detriment of peoples fun. I realised that I needed to be in charge so always happy to run a friendly open guild and I get to make non daft decisions.

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  • FinalFikusFinalFikus Chicago, ILPosts: 906Member
    Originally posted by PWN_FACE
    Originally posted by Fusion

     

    In a group / guild / clan, leaders will always emerge, when none are "chosen". pre-chosen (friends of the GM, first ones to join, oldest members) are generally worst "leaders" & officers from what i've experienced and those that emerge are the better ones.

    Absolutely. 

    Same in RL, too.

    Ya great observation. I agree as well.

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  • AkulasAkulas GoldcoastPosts: 1,619Member Uncommon
    Deffinately follower. I tried being a leader and it's good and everything but you actualy have to know stuff and be bothered working it out and have some degree of passion towards the game your playing for it to work. Can't be bothered anymore since half way through WoW BC when I stopped raiding and just decided to be a back line dpser. Much less effort required.

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  • mordaki987mordaki987 Prescott Valley, AZPosts: 36Member
    niether i play mmos to have fun not to be a leader or follower.  mmos are meant strictly for the purpose of being neither a leader or follower you play to have fun nothing more
  • LobotomistLobotomist ZagrebPosts: 5,055Member Uncommon
    Originally posted by fivoroth
    @lobotomist,I am the same. I always wonder where everyone went. Especially in MMOs where you skip lots of mobs in dungeons.

     

    Hehe especially because I like to admire story, and graphics. So I always get lost listening to some NPC or watching some wall :D

    But I actually led the party of noobs - first time in Twillight Arbour (via LFG tool in GW2) few days ago , none of us ever did it. On the end I took part of leading , and actually everyone congratulated me on the end.

    So who knows. Still I am much more comfortable being lost , late for fight , but giving good support :)

     

     

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  • TheRealBanangoTheRealBanango Fairfax, VAPosts: 75Member

    For me it depends on the situation and how well i know the game mechanics, but generally I like to follow just because it's less of a hassle in the long run. The times I do like to lead is when the sole purpose is to have fun (rather than to accomplish goals) for example, leading a raid on an enemy village/town/city knowing beforehand we have no chance. I like to lead these kind of events and strategize on how we can stay alive the longest or the best entry point, how we can kill the most people, etc.

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  • rawfoxrawfox HamburgPosts: 648Member Uncommon

    Im a leader in real life.

    Its relaxed, to just follow :)

  • LoverNoFighterLoverNoFighter Star CItyPosts: 294Member

    Follower with a bit of maverick in me.

    I wanna log in and play without any responsibility whatsoever. Tell me what/who to shoot or stab at and I'll do so until I'm bored and decide to do things my way.

     

  • immodiumimmodium ManchesterPosts: 1,578Member Uncommon
    If the group requires it I will step up to lead. Following a good leader is a real good experience, a bad one is awful. :)

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  • Po_ggPo_gg Twigwarren, WestfarthingPosts: 2,719Member Uncommon

    I picked the nice Hornblower pie of course, what else? :)

    But to put aside the inner hobbit self, it's a pretty n/a question, or like mordaki987 wrote "i play mmos to have fun not to be a leader or follower". Exploration, story, crafting and roleplay doesn't need either of them. Guilds, well I'd never poke an elitist, raiding guild with a 10-foot pole, and in a fun, social, rp kin / guild there are no leaders, only founders, coordinators, recruiters, bartenders :)

    That's leaving group content, where the question is n/a as well to me. A good group (even if only a pug) is communicating and can coordinate the danc... the fight I mean, and if there's new folks among the group then describe the mechanics to them, making suggestions, etc. without any leader.

     

    What do you look for in a leader? what do you look for in a follower? No strict distinction I guess, simply communication. Maybe clear, informative telling from one end, and an open mind to listen and understand from the other. Not a leader-follower setting, rather a teacher-student one.

    Do you think your preference of being leader or follower effects how you approach grouping? Nope, for a new instance/raid I like to listen and learn the details, and if I'm the experienced one then I Iike to dishing out the knowledge as well :)

  • QuirhidQuirhid TamperePosts: 5,969Member Common

    Pie.

    I only lead when I know I could do things better. Depending on games and the people you play with, it can be a significant burden. Unless you're playing with a tight knit group, it is more like herding cats. Its usually not worth the effort. I also find I burn out pretty quickly if I'm in charge, so I tend to avoid it as much as possible. Then again if I think I could contribute more by leading, but can't be arsed to do so, I will likely quit soon anyway.

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  • Neo_ViperNeo_Viper NotyourbusinessPosts: 598Member
    I don't mind being a follower when the leader is good. Good means not only knowledge of the game, but also not being an arrogant asshat. Sadly, many high end guild leaders have an ego bigger than mount everest...

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  • TybostTybost Ill, WIPosts: 419Member Uncommon

    Follower

    I have learned over the years im best following as a second hand right man- A Lieutenant if you will that helps the Leader guide the whole guild. A motivational booster, that keeps spirits high! -  The last time I joined a guild, I was put in a low ranking position- and at the end when the leader who I wanted to follow and help lead decided to leave. The enemy in the guild who I disliked the most, ended up becoming the leader and promoted me to lieutenant/sub-leader. My responsibility list went up, but the thing is I thought of the new leader as more of a follower. He was nothing like first leadership, for me things fell apart fast, eventually he decided to make a new guild under a fresh name.

    I was attached to the status and name and progress we have made, as the servers we're newly put up- and we had made a name for ourselves. Disconnected from my guild- things just ended up becoming boring, so I left for a couple of months and came back. Everything fell apart it seems, and the guild was no more but a shadow of the past. I don't join guilds that often these days, and the guild Iv joined before that was many years ago. Maybe I'm not much of a guild person, but when I do join a guild under a high ranking position. I am at my very best, and I should never become the leader- as that always ends up in chaos, since even though i'm a dedicated sub-leader, I'm not cut out for the leadership responsibility list.

     

    I'm one hell of a sub-leader! ;D go me!

  • Cephus404Cephus404 Redlands, CAPosts: 3,675Member
    If there's leading to be done, I'm usually the one doing it, it's a natural thing.  I just don't get into positions where leading or following is even an issue in MMOs very often.

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  • maplestonemaplestone Ottawa, ONPosts: 3,099Member

    I lead only myself.

  • TorvalTorval Oregon CountryPosts: 7,217Member Uncommon

    I voted pie. I'm a team player so I'll do either. It doesn't really matter to me. In my opinion the better leaders are able to follow and a good follower will step up and help lead in time of need.

    It's not really about leading guilds or being an officer or a raid/dungeon leader to me. It's how you interact with everyone in the game. If you step up and help someone who is lost and struggling through content or a quest, then that shows leadership qualities.

     

     

  • RoguewizRoguewiz Lampasas, TXPosts: 614Member Uncommon

    I like pie and because I don't really subscribe to being a leader nor a follower, that's the option I chose.  Depending on the game, I'll lead or follow.  It really depends on the mood I'm in.

    I'm pessimistic.  Either I'm leading a bunch of idiots, or following an idiot.  In either case, I'm having to deal with idiots.  The only real question would be whether or not being a leader or follower will minimize the impact of being with those idiots.

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