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  • Pratt2112Pratt2112 Posts: 1,538Member Uncommon
    Originally posted by Hyanmen
    Originally posted by TangentPoint

    The problem is quite simply and demonstrably that many people can not and/or will not tolerate a negative opinion about ARR, no matter who it's from, no matter how it's presented. They are attacked all the same. It's been proven over and over again, here, on the official forums and elsewhere.

    And the same goes for the opposite side, though you're obviously not one to bring that up.

    Of course not, because it's not relevant to the situation in this particular thread.  Why would I bring that up?

    Which, in light of all that is fair and just, makes you look as biased as the rest of us - towards the haters that is.

    Not at all. My reaction to people attacking someone for voicing criticism of the game has absolutely nothing to do with what my reaction to other situations would be.  I react to each situation on a case-by-case basis, on its own merits. I don't treat every situation the same, using the same canned arguments; that's more the forte' of others.

    Again, you're arguing based entirely on a presumption of how you assume I might react.

    Pot, please meet the kettle. And to complete the holy circle of hypocrisy please be sure to claim next that the haters are quite fine folk with no agendas and perfect toleration for positive posts and threads on these forums. Then we can all move on.

    Only I haven't, am not and would not say anything of the kind. You are, again, reacting to a strawman you've constructed, based entirely on presumptions of something you couldn't possibly know, but pretend to simply because you need some reason to shift the focus and come back at me personally.

    To wit: If you want to know what my view is on a particular situation, then ask me, and I'll gladly tell you. Don't presume to know what it is, and then react as though you're automatically correct.

    Funny thing is, for all your ineffective attempts to "turn the tables" or shift the focus on to me, not a single thing I've said in this thread has been affected. At the end of the day, people in this community are still demonstrating intolerance toward someone with a negative opinion of the game.

     

  • WizardryWizardry Ontario, CanadaPosts: 8,466Member Uncommon

    Well OP you mentioned RATED,well how do you rate a game?You rate it versus other games,it does not have to bring anything new to the table to be better than other games.

    EVERYONE and i mean everyone has their own preference on combat and classes,so that is never a good area to rate versus other games.However detail in textures and creatures and graphics is a biggie and FFXIV is easily as good as an y game even if you don't think better.

    I like to use a term often "DEPTH" of systems.Most games i have played are terribly cheap,no depth at all,very superficial leveling,questing games.That is why i RATE ffxi AS THE BEST Mmorpg of all time.No not the HD graphics,but there is good detail in low end textures,but the depth in systems is unequaled.

    My personal taste on FFXIV,is it is a good game,deserves some acknowledgment but arguably not the best game,but deserves a high rating.


    Samoan Diamond

  • Pratt2112Pratt2112 Posts: 1,538Member Uncommon
    Originally posted by Nicephorus
    Originally posted by TangentPoint

    And whose place is it to determine what the "correct and proper way to start a post" is? People now have to construct their posts in a certain way in order for those intolerant of a negative opinion to "accept" it? Nonsense. That seems a bit like moving the goal-post and setting arbitrary requirements to me.

    Further, there have been plenty of well-written posts, which do not start off strongly, are not hyperbolic and are supported with examples of why the author felt the way they do. Regardless, they're met with the same kind of intolerance and hostility. So, trying to lay it at the poster's feet with some arbitrary requirement of "how you're supposed to voice your opinion in order to not be attacked" rings rather hollow.

    People need to read and comprehend what someone is saying in total, and not read only the parts they want to acknowledge, while ignoring the rest.

    The problem is quite simply and demonstrably that many people can not and/or will not tolerate a negative opinion about ARR, no matter who it's from, no matter how it's presented. They are attacked all the same. It's been proven over and over again, here, on the official forums and elsewhere.

    I've read the OP's posts through at least twice. They do not say anything to warrant the reaction they've gotten - not by anyone who actually took the time to thoroughly read what they said, what they asked, and what their specific concerns are. But then that's the problem, isn't it? Many people in this thread - most even - seem to have completely missed all that because they're too busy attacking the OP for "criticizing their game".

    Again, it's an ugly behavior on the part of the fans. All it succeeds at is demonstrating the degree of intolerance and hostility present in this community toward any criticism of the game.

     

    I'm sorry, but I'm not buying the whole premise of your reply. For the most part, fans aren't hostile to someone who simply doesn't like the game. I've long said, nobody should have to justify why they like or dislike a game. People like what they like. But it is almost NEVER just about not liking the game. There is a small but very vocal segment of the forum population that just cannot stand the idea that a game that doesn't cater to their individual taste might be successful. Thus they go out of their way to trash the game in anyway possible, and promote a negative atmosphere on the forums.

    I don't disagree that there are people who will attack the game because it doesn't specifically cater to them. I'm equally dismayed by those people. No argument there. But, like I said in my previous post... that's not what this thread, or my posts in particular, are about. One situation has nothing to do with the other. I can have an entire conversation with you about that (and you might be surprised to find how much I agree). This isn't the place for it, though.

    Let me give you an illustration of what I mean that happens to be very close to home.

    I played and supported the game through 1.0, paid and played up to the conclusion of 1.23, have been here through Alpha, all Beta Stages  for ARR, and even pre-ordered the CE for PS3 ($90), even though I get the CE for free as a 1.0 CE owner. 

    I've praised much about this game over time. I've even defended the game against people making unfair or unsubstantiated claims about it. None of that matters. I was still ripped to pieces (on the official forums especially), numerous times, because I dared to say, for example, that I really don't like the heavy-handed use of quest helpers and such that Yoshi-P chose to go with.

    I've personally been on the receiving end of that hostility and intolerance for simply stating that I disagreed with some decisions Yoshi-P made in the design of ARR. I've been called a troll, told to "go back to WoW", told I'm "just bashing the game" and "we don't want people like you in this game".

    Better yet, I was told this by some people who had only started with ARR in Open Beta. Imagine that.

    I've seen others unfairly receive the same behavior, time and time again.

    So, you'll have to excuse me if I disagree with your assessment of my "premise".  Many people in this game's community are absolutely intolerant of any criticism toward the game, no matter how it's conveyed.

    So is it any wonder that fans react hostilely to someone who quite obviously wants the game to fail? Oh, and then there is the tired "The fans were so mean to me just because I dared to criticize their game." Please!

    The OP hasn't demonstrated any desire for the game to fail. Quite the opposite. They're interested to see if maybe the game beyond where they've progressed to might actually win them over. It's notable how that part is repeatedly ignored.

    Regardless, you can not justify the intolerance and hostility demonstrated toward everyone who criticizes the game, based on the behavior or apparent motive of others.

    To argue what you have is to basically prove my point: that it doesn't matter how it's stated, what the nature of the post is, or what the poster's demeanor is. Any criticism of the game is immediately lumped in the same category, pounced upon and attacked all the same.

    And No, its not too much to ask for someone to think about how they construct their posts. Not if their want to be taken for something other than a troll of the first order.

    Again, what you're attempting to argue has already been proven to not make a difference. Many times. It's a bogus "requirement" thrown out to serve as a convenient excuse for people to rip apart anyone voicing a negative opinion.

    "Oh, well, they didn't post their opinion in the "proper manner", hence we have the right to attack them for it".  Give me a break.

    You know how someone avoids being attacked by many in this game's community? Never post a negative opinion or criticism. That's it. That's the only way to guarantee you won't be attacked. The "safe" options are: Praise the game, or shut up. Not much of a choice.

    Mind you, not everyone is like this. There are some reasonable people who will address each post on its own merits, and not hastily toss it in the fire because the poster had something critical to say.

     

  • MMOredfalconMMOredfalcon Mitchell, ONPosts: 132Member Uncommon
    Originally posted by Darknessguy64
    Originally posted by Mishakai

    The game is rated high because it is a good game.

    Opinion threads from people who quit after 10 minutes, 15 levels, or because you saw a squirrel and your ADD kicked in don't even qualify as an opinion thread, just a statement of someones inability to stick with something long enough to actually form an opinion.

     

    You left out ladybugs...but I agree 100%

     It's quite entertaining how a person simply states their opinion about dislike of this game. The fans of the game resort to personal insults and name calling. Yet those who criticize the the game are not personally attacking anybody. Just giving their opinion. 

    Every game needs more than just the fans opinions. Comments from those who dislike the game as well are also important. They give notes of the games faults which is often overlooked by fans.

    They aren't haters for disliking the game. They have invested their money into the game as well as the fans. And from what I have seen on these forums with the fanbase community and their insulting anybody who give a poor opinion of the game, has certainly discouraged me from this title.

  • BrynnBrynn Albuquerque, NMPosts: 345Member

    I quit the game when I reached level 29 and couldn't progress because I couldn't find a group to do a dungeon. I waited an hour at a time, and that was enough for me to lose patience.

    The other thing that was a drawback for me, was the cost of travel, making my gil always low. You have to weigh air travel vs teleport vs just running, because you are all over all three areas doing hunting logs, dungeons and just finding quests to do.

  • NicephorusNicephorus Tulsa, OKPosts: 52Member

     It's quite entertaining how a person simply states their opinion about dislike of this game. The fans of the game resort to personal insults and name calling. Yet those who criticize the the game are not personally attacking anybody. Just giving their opinion. 

    Every game needs more than just the fans opinions. Comments from those who dislike the game as well are also important. They give notes of the games faults which is often overlooked by fans.

    They aren't haters for disliking the game. They have invested their money into the game as well as the fans. And from what I have seen on these forums with the fanbase community and their insulting anybody who give a poor opinion of the game, has certainly discouraged me from this title.

    If there is anything more predictable than forum Trolls, its the tired "The fanboys are so mean! I'm just stating my opinion". Despite what some people have argued, it is possible to give a polite, honest, criticism without arousing the wrath of everyone. However, starting your post with "Extremely overrated game that brings nothing new to the genre", i.e. a statement of opinion presented as fact, is definitely not the way to do it.

  • daltaniousdaltanious waPosts: 2,145Member Uncommon
    Originally posted by Ridelynn

    If you don't like chocolate, you don't like it.

    Moving on.

    I love chocolate and this definitively is not chocolate. :-)) Feels like some bad replacement for real chocolate my grandma used for her diabetes once. image

  • MothanosMothanos ArnhemPosts: 1,860Member Uncommon

    At least this mmo doesnt use the console no healer GW2 action trash shit.
    And the irony is that its also for PS3 and PS4 lolz.

    FF ARR does what it does and what you expect from a traditional mmo rpg.
    I love it my wife loves it.

    GW2 / EQN <----- no thanks.
    I rather play a traditional mmo like this one.

  • SephirosoSephiroso Marietta, GAPosts: 1,160Member Uncommon
    Originally posted by daltanious
    Originally posted by Ridelynn

    If you don't like chocolate, you don't like it.

    Moving on.

    I love chocolate and this definitively is not chocolate. :-)) Feels like some bad replacement for real chocolate my grandma used for her diabetes once. image

    Funny thing about chocolate, there's Dark Chocolate, there's Milk Chocolate, there's Chocolate, there's White Chocolate, there's unsweetened chocolate...and more.

    image
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  • SephirosoSephiroso Marietta, GAPosts: 1,160Member Uncommon
    Originally posted by Brynn

    I quit the game when I reached level 29 and couldn't progress because I couldn't find a group to do a dungeon. I waited an hour at a time, and that was enough for me to lose patience.

    The other thing that was a drawback for me, was the cost of travel, making my gil always low. You have to weigh air travel vs teleport vs just running, because you are all over all three areas doing hunting logs, dungeons and just finding quests to do.

    Join a FC, that ceases to be a problem.

     

    As for teleport costs, you were a fate baby werent you? The only people who cried about not having gil were those who did nothing but fates to level up.

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  • TwoThreeFourTwoThreeFour Virginia, VAPosts: 2,131Member
    Originally posted by Grailer
    Originally posted by ZizouX
    Originally posted by mbolme
    It seems a fair quesitn, and it would help me to see more serious answers. I've been sitting on the sideline, bceause I'm not sure I want to pay a monthly fee again. The high rankings of this game intrigure me, though. Why is it rated so high?

    Rated so high... If I were to venture a guess (as an admitted fanboy).

    1. Polished

    2. Music

    3. Graphics

    4. Art Design

    5. Story

    6. Deep and satisfying crafting system

    7. Amazingly designed Dungeons with no boss ever being a "tank and spank."

    8. End Game dungeons and Raiding is hard.  1 month in, no one has beaten coil turn 5.

    9. The quests are written VERY well.

    10. The world seems alive.

    11. Final Fantasy fan service and references to past final fantasies dripping from every pore of the game.

    12. "Old School" feel.

    13.  Traditional strictly defined party roles.

    14. Forced grouping to finish story and progress (some hate it, others LOVE it).

    15. Subscription means you're not nickle and dimed for content or convenience (i.e. paying real money for bag space).

    16. Some people LOVE traditional tab targeting ( I am one of them, don't like action mmorpgs).

     

    It could be that you love all of the above, or maybe just one of the above.  Some people love the game for the crafting alone.... others love the dialogue in quests.  Some of you, I suspect, either don't care for any of the above, or disagree with me.

     

    The point is, a LOT of people have found something in this game.  I know a lot of people love GW2, but after 2 months, I havn't logged back in once.   To each his own.  If this isn't your cup of tea, then just move on.  This world would be a horrible place ot live if everyone liked and disliked the same things.

     

    Take it from me, there's NOTHING wrong with you if you don't like FFXIV.  However, there is nothing wrong with me for loving this game.  I'll pay the sub x10 over because It's worth every penny.  I subscribed to the 6 month plan.

    And more importantly , there is nothing else to play that hasn't already been played to death .

     

    Give it time this game will become extinct as well ,  if it takes less than 1 month to hit 50  , and the end game content just isn't there compared to 1-50  . People will flock to something new that promises more . .. 

     

    Expect FF15 to come out next year maybe :)

    FF XV would not be a MMORPG.

  • tommygunzIItommygunzII Roanoke, VAPosts: 321Member
    Originally posted by Brynn

    I quit the game when I reached level 29 and couldn't progress because I couldn't find a group to do a dungeon. I waited an hour at a time, and that was enough for me to lose patience.

    The other thing that was a drawback for me, was the cost of travel, making my gil always low. You have to weigh air travel vs teleport vs just running, because you are all over all three areas doing hunting logs, dungeons and just finding quests to do.

    You can favorite up to 3 zones which makes teleporting to those zones much cheaper. Unless you have steady income coming in teleporting everywhere all of the time will put a dent in your money for sure.

     

    I'm a DPS too. If you want to get into dungeons via Duty Finder quickly become a tank, healer, or join a FC and do runs with them. The wait for DPS's can be long.

     

    As a tank or healer be ready when you hit the DF button, because it will launch instantly most of the time.

  • TwoThreeFourTwoThreeFour Virginia, VAPosts: 2,131Member
    Originally posted by amber-r

    The 9.5s and 10s should be for best of genre or games that did something amazingly new and inovative that's fun and good. FFXIV although ok sure doesn't deserve those scores at all.  It's good to keep in mind that many publishers including square put a ton of weight behind metacritic and how smaller review sites giving 100 scores can have big impacts on the metacritic average (this is where it's good to throw some money around at small unknown sites).

    This game doesn't deserve scores above 8.5 no matter how you cut it.  That leads me to believe they were either outright paid for, the reviewers scored it based on how bad XIVv1 was or they didn't play it very long at all and just marked as they would some offline game.  So yeah, paid for, pity vote or a review based on nothing but 4-5 hours play.

     

    About your "best of genre":  have you taken a look at the genre?  You do know that  the "best" need to exist? So which games are the best of the genre and are according to you the ones that should be the only ones to receive 9.5 or 10?

  • TwoThreeFourTwoThreeFour Virginia, VAPosts: 2,131Member
    Originally posted by TangentPoint
    Originally posted by vandal5627
    Originally posted by TangentPoint
     

    You can't blame FANs for being defensive.  Look at these forums on this website.  All you see these days are toxic haters.  You want FANs to stop being defensive, tell the haters to stop being so offensive.

    When they're treating any criticism of the game exactly the same, no matter how it's presented - by attacking the poster - I absolutely can blame them.

    It's a matter of actually reading what people are saying, in proper context and responding on the merits of the post. Being immediately hostile toward someone because of "what others have done" is just dishonest and lazy.

    And let's not kid ourselves. I've followed and been in this community going back to Alpha (actually, going back to Alpha of 1.0, but that's irrelevant at this point). There have been people quick to rip anyone with a negative opinion to shreds since day 1.

    Prove that those "they" treat any criticism of the game exactly the same, no matter how it's presented. Otherwise you've just shown that you can blame something that may not even exist. 

  • TwoThreeFourTwoThreeFour Virginia, VAPosts: 2,131Member
    Originally posted by Brynn

    I quit the game when I reached level 29 and couldn't progress because I couldn't find a group to do a dungeon. I waited an hour at a time, and that was enough for me to lose patience.

    The other thing that was a drawback for me, was the cost of travel, making my gil always low. You have to weigh air travel vs teleport vs just running, because you are all over all three areas doing hunting logs, dungeons and just finding quests to do.

     

    People have different degrees of patience, but did you ever consider to either join a Free Company so that they can help you progress, or stating precisely "I am a dps, I have waited for 1 hour to do dungeon X and I would really appriciate if someone could help me out" at either a city or a place where people appriopiately leveled are? 

     

    Something to realize is that there is likely plenty of people willing to help, but simultaneously people don't want to waste their time if the queues are already short. Since I am rolling tank as my second main combat character, I asked everytime how long time people have waited; and at most it was thirty minutes for the dps on my server. That's the way it has been up to and including "Haukke Manor", which I am guessing is the dungeon you didn't manage to find people for through dungeon finder during 1 hour. 

     

    As for the other part: that extra layer of thinking is precisely one reason for why I want to continue playing FFXIV. I like when I have to think about different decisions and not simply "no brain" one.  I wish gathering and tank clases  had far more such decisions.  (Currently paladin and warrior are too strong compared to marauder and gladiator)

  • PurutzilPurutzil East Stroudsburg, PAPosts: 2,926Member Uncommon

    Becuase its a great game, one that doesn't feel it has to 'be different' to be good, and ends up hurting itself for it. We all have our own preferences obviously, but its silly to really bash the game as you did because its 'not different'. Hell, WoW was blatently ripping off most of its elements from EQ1 yet look how huge the game ended up being. Its not whether a game is 'different' or not, its how it carries itself out. Sure, Its not perfect but it does so many areas so well. It literally took me by surprise how much more into the game I was then I initially expected.

     

    Its rated high because people enjoy what it sets to do, and I feel its deserving of a higher rating, unlike some other games that managed to get high ratings yet were lack luster (Swtor and GW2 as examples). Sure, its probably not as 'highly rated' as others view it, but considering thats practically anygame out there, I feel its probably at home where it is. It does so many things right and manages to make itself work, even with sticking to an 'old school' combat system that is even a bit slower then normal. Its quite amazing how it uses a slower pace yet manages to have encounters that are far more frantic and requiring quick reaction then anything WoW has put out in years. It knows what it is and it attempts to improve itself on that, something I think sadly most games forget in their push to be 'new and different'.

  • daltaniousdaltanious waPosts: 2,145Member Uncommon
    Originally posted by Sephiroso
    Originally posted by daltanious
    Originally posted by Ridelynn

    If you don't like chocolate, you don't like it.

    Moving on.

    I love chocolate and this definitively is not chocolate. :-)) Feels like some bad replacement for real chocolate my grandma used for her diabetes once. image

    Funny thing about chocolate, there's Dark Chocolate, there's Milk Chocolate, there's Chocolate, there's White Chocolate, there's unsweetened chocolate...and more.

    I was not speaking about VARIATIONS of chocolate, I have been referring to REPLACEMENTS of chocolate that have - so far - all miserably failed to really replace REAL chocolate, being dark or any other. But I understand you love ARR. :-) I loved always FF series and SE quoted very high in my eyes ... for this reason I barely waited for new release after disaster with 1.0 (which in turn also had a lot of lovers).  Maybe for this my disappointment was so hard.

  • HyanmenHyanmen KolkkalaPosts: 5,354Member Uncommon
    Originally posted by TangentPoint
    Originally posted by Hyanmen
    Originally posted by TangentPoint

    The problem is quite simply and demonstrably that many people can not and/or will not tolerate a negative opinion about ARR, no matter who it's from, no matter how it's presented. They are attacked all the same. It's been proven over and over again, here, on the official forums and elsewhere.

    Of course not, because it's not relevant to the situation in this particular thread.  Why would I bring that up?

    Do you seriously think that the two extremes aren't related? Both are just as much at fault for the current situation, which means it is completely related to the current subject because it relates to how fanboys want to convey the game in an environment with unjust and illogical hostility towards the game. Extreme breeds extreme.

    Not at all. My reaction to people attacking someone for voicing criticism of the game has absolutely nothing to do with what my reaction to other situations would be.  I react to each situation on a case-by-case basis, on its own merits. I don't treat every situation the same, using the same canned arguments; that's more the forte' of others.

    Again, you're arguing based entirely on a presumption of how you assume I might react.

    We can all see that you react without taking into account other aspects that are in direct relation to the current issues. You can't just close your eyes and ears on matters that directly affect what you're discussing unless you want to be wrong.

    You are, again, reacting to a strawman you've constructed, based entirely on presumptions of something you couldn't possibly know

    Funny thing is, for all your ineffective attempts to "turn the tables" or shift the focus on to me, not a single thing I've said in this thread has been affected. At the end of the day, people in this community are still demonstrating intolerance toward someone with a negative opinion of the game.

     Of course I wouldn't know because you've been careful not to discuss that part of the topic at all (obviously, as it would make your argument shakier than ever). By the way, nobody cares about you, so why do you want to shift the topic to yourself? Unless you want to talk about the points you have thus far ignored then please, save all of our time. We don't care.

     

    "Housing is standard in most mmo's."
    - yolteotl79

  • ZalmonZalmon Bloomington, INPosts: 319Member
    Originally posted by MrEvilDr

    Extremely overrated game that brings nothing new to the genre. I got bored very quickly with it and will not be paying past the first month for this game. If it were to go free to play, it might be something worth trying out. However, I feel as though I've wasted my money by testing this game for a month.It may be the case that I didn't give the game much of a chance, as I only got to level 15 or so, but I have no intention of trying it any further. The combat feels extremely slow paced and monotonous, especially early in the game. Nothing really grabbed my attention and made me want to progress further. There were far to many run-of-the-mill "Slay X Ladybirds", "Collect X Ladybird Shell" and "Talk to Gary, then talk to Steve, then travel half way across the map to talk to Joseph" quests which completely ruined my experience.On the upside, the game is aesthetically beautiful and I was thoroughly impressed with the graphics options (There were separate "Laptop" graphics settings separate from "Desktop" settings to help my laptop's performance greatly).Just to say these are, of course, my personal opinions and I don't mean in any way to offend anyone who enjoys and plays the game. I really want to enjoy it due to all the praise the game has had from IRL friends, but I can't.My question is, what have I missed that keeps people playing this game? I know I'll definitely need to progress further in the game to appreciate it more, but why should I?

     

    The same reason SWTOR and WAR were rated so highly.
  • evilastroevilastro EdinburghPosts: 4,270Member
    Originally posted by Mothanos

    At least this mmo doesnt use the console no healer GW2 action trash shit.
    And the irony is that its also for PS3 and PS4 lolz.

    FF ARR does what it does and what you expect from a traditional mmo rpg.
    I love it my wife loves it.

    GW2 / EQN <----- no thanks.
    I rather play a traditional mmo like this one.

     

    I prefer trinity combat and traditional MMOs, but I would take GW2 combat over FFXIV combat any day. Even in its zergiest most clusterf... mess, GW2 combat is infinitely more enjoyable than FFXIV combat.

  • HusvikHusvik Somewhere, ONPosts: 440Member
    Originally posted by MrEvilDr

    Extremely overrated game that brings nothing new to the genre. I got bored very quickly with it and will not be paying past the first month for this game. If it were to go free to play, it might be something worth trying out. However, I feel as though I've wasted my money by testing this game for a month.

    It may be the case that I didn't give the game much of a chance, as I only got to level 15 or so, but I have no intention of trying it any further. The combat feels extremely slow paced and monotonous, especially early in the game. Nothing really grabbed my attention and made me want to progress further. There were far to many run-of-the-mill "Slay X Ladybirds", "Collect X Ladybird Shell" and "Talk to Gary, then talk to Steve, then travel half way across the map to talk to Joseph" quests which completely ruined my experience.

    On the upside, the game is aesthetically beautiful and I was thoroughly impressed with the graphics options (There were separate "Laptop" graphics settings separate from "Desktop" settings to help my laptop's performance greatly).

    Just to say these are, of course, my personal opinions and I don't mean in any way to offend anyone who enjoys and plays the game. I really want to enjoy it due to all the praise the game has had from IRL friends, but I can't.

    My question is, what have I missed that keeps people playing this game? I know I'll definitely need to progress further in the game to appreciate it more, but why should I?

    OH NO! I subscribed to the 6 month plan.

  • HyanmenHyanmen KolkkalaPosts: 5,354Member Uncommon
    Originally posted by evilastro
    Originally posted by Mothanos

    At least this mmo doesnt use the console no healer GW2 action trash shit.
    And the irony is that its also for PS3 and PS4 lolz.

    FF ARR does what it does and what you expect from a traditional mmo rpg.
    I love it my wife loves it.

    GW2 / EQN <----- no thanks.
    I rather play a traditional mmo like this one.

     

    I prefer trinity combat and traditional MMOs, but I would take GW2 combat over FFXIV combat any day. Even in its zergiest most clusterf... mess, GW2 combat is infinitely more enjoyable than FFXIV combat.

    Now I don't think there is enough hyperbole to make your statement count as much as it could. Maybe more superlatives would do it?

    "Housing is standard in most mmo's."
    - yolteotl79

  • Kayo45Kayo45 Neverland, AKPosts: 293Member
    K great , let me know if you ever find this elusive completely different, super innovative, infinite content MMO that allows you to form a valid opinion of it by the time youre level 15.
  • RemyVorenderRemyVorender Riverside, RIPosts: 3,266Member Uncommon
    This game is just what I want in my MMORPG.

    Played: AA, AC1, AC2, Aion, AO, AoC, CO, CoX, DAoC, DCUO, DN, EVE, EQ1, EQ2,
    ESO, FE, FFXI, FFXIV, FF, GW1, GW2, Istaria, L2, LoTRO, MO, MxO, NW, Rift, RoE,
    Ryzom, SB, SWG, SWTOR, TERA, TSW, WAR, WoW, WURM...

  • MrEvilDrMrEvilDr PlymouthPosts: 84Member

    I can only assume that English isn't the first language of many of the people posting on this thread. Granted, I could have worded things a little better and perhaps "Extremely overrated game..." was a bad way to start this post (Although I clearly announce that it's an opinion and I'm in no way shoving it down everyone else's throat like some). However, the title of the post is simply a question to the fans as to what features warrant such a high rating. I'm not saying "Why is this game rated so highly? It definitely doesn't deserve this rating" - I just want reasons. 

    Since this post I've played the game a little further and reached level 20 with a different class which I much prefer (although the skills are almost identical in my opinion). I'm enjoying it more so now than I was before as I've found a group of people in-game to play with, naturally making my experience much better. 

    A few of you made some very helpful posts which led to me trying out the game further, but I've simply had to ignore a lot of the hate heh. It's only natural when a person says something negative about a game they enjoy I guess. I appreciate the very few that did read the OP properly and gave some helpful advice and explained some of the features!

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