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Originally posted by TiamatRoar If you got your desired satisfaction of an MMO after 1-6 months of play and are happy with that, then good for you (that is NOT sarcastic). That's a good way to go about things. However, that's probably not very good for the company making that MMO. I don't know that much about MMO business, but I'm pretty sure they generally need to retain players for longer than 6 months In order to make up the costs of production (and those 6 months of maintenance) in most cases.
There are lots of players out there that enjoy theme park games long term, gear grinding, raiding, etc. I am just not one of them.
I don't know how GW2 is doing right now with retention, but I doubt it's exactly a ghost town.
I would come back to the game if they released a new class or something.
Are you team Azeroth, team Tyria, or team Jacob?
I am no GW2 fanboy, I only played the first in beta then went to other things. I have to say that this game could be considered the best game for a number of reasons.
I just started playing this game a couple weeks ago. I had a lot of reservations about it when it was released and decided to play other games. I have to admit that I am pleasantly surprised by the experience so far. The amount of content GW2 has to offer over other games on the market right now is like comparing a hay floored carnival to Six Flags. Not only do you get a pretty decent storyline that is both engaging and fun imo but you also have all the other static mission areas and then ones that just pop up all over the place. I actually found many of them to be fun. You have plenty of dungeons and then another type of dungeon/instance called fractals, which I just started doing and find very fun. Then on top of all that you have other activities that I personally also find fun, I really like the race and crab hold thing.
There is enough PVE to keep someone satisfied for a decent amount of time, if you dont play 12 hrs a day of course, any game is going to end fast when people revolve their lives around the game.
The PVP is also fun for me. If you like open world you can head into the WvW. I d'on't really like zerging but when 2 zergs meet it gets pretty intense. You can always get a couple people to run around and have other fun. I actually liked getting with a small team and causing trouble. I have only done a little spvp but the fact that you can create whatever build you want with gear makes me drawn to it a little.
The game is large and leaves a lot to be explored for those that enjoy the exploration of worlds. The graphics are decent.
Constant updates and patches. The community is by far better than any of the games I have seen come out recently. I have yet to experience the garbage that is so prevalent in F2P games.
The server I am on and the servers I have guested to have all been highly active.
Why couldn't this be a contender for most popular game in 2013?
Originally posted by TiamatRoarIf you got your desired satisfaction of an MMO after 1-6 months of play and are happy with that, then good for you (that is NOT sarcastic). That's a good way to go about things. However, that's probably not very good for the company making that MMO. I don't know that much about MMO business, but I'm pretty sure they generally need to retain players for longer than 6 months In order to make up the costs of production (and those 6 months of maintenance) in most cases.
I'm guessing you are an older gamer and this is more your viewpoint showing through here. It used to be when you got a new game you expected to play it for years on end but the market has completely changed. I'm sure if they get people engaged for 6 months they are pretty happy about it and they know that they will probably get more money out of you when they put out an expansion.
I used to measure how much I liked a game in how many years I played it, now it just isn't realistic to measure it in more than months because way too many high quality games come out each year. I used to stick with games even when I was kind of bored because there just wasn't much that I was excited about switching to. The monthly fees really change things too. You aren't married to a game as much without the fee.
I'm not quite sure where you get your numbers, but times changed very much.
Back in the days you've got couple of MMOs on market and you pretty much were forced to play that game for years. These days? There are tons of MMOs coming out and many are actually pretty good. They can't work around "our playerbase will stay with us for years". It would be madness. I suppose they play for "let's make very broad audience and if everyone in the world play us for 6 month, that's fine". Also with B2P and F2P schema = no subrscription, you can come back at any time.
Simple: Lots and lots of advertisement. Whether its through banners, or through getting articles placed on the site actively (Yes, incase you didn't realize it, they are purposely having that happen to advertise game even if what it details is often trivial or minor other games don't bother pushing out).
Really, that is all there is to it. Without the constant attempts to keep itself up front, its likely it probably wouldn't reach anywhere near the numbers it does receive.
Anet has been doing a lot of dumb things lately. Makes me want to go back to SWTOR even though that game is a train wreck.
I still enjoy the game myself, I go on binges playing it constantly. I take breaks though every now and then, so that helps me keep wanting to play it every now and then. I think the combat really helps with the game popularity, the B2P model is also very casual and inviting to people since you don't have to cancel a sub, or start a sub again.
Though I do wish they would update some of the weapon skills, or at least give us some different options on the skills, like an offensive, defensive, and support set for each weapon.
The more I'm around the forums on this site, the more bitter I become.
-------------------------"Searchers after horror haunt strange, far places..." ~ H.P.Lovecraft, "From Beyond"
oh, and that thread's last poster's words is so true:
Originally posted by Eir_S
Fact is, it doesn't mean squat in the grand scheme. Random forum stats never do.
The possibility of the universe collapsing into a singularity is higher than the birth of a perfect MMORPG.
GW2 gets most hits because they release new stuff every 2 weeks. Simple as that.
Oh and because it's probably the second most popular MMO in the west currently, and WoW players generally don't frequent MMORPG.com.
I like GW2 because it's something new ... never done before, the mechanic feels fresher then most mmorpgs
SWTOR is just old mechanics and nothing new not to mention their F2P model sucks
Originally posted by WroniecI like GW2 because it's something new ... never done before, the mechanic feels fresher then most mmorpgs SWTOR is just old mechanics and nothing new not to mention their F2P model sucks
My opinion is my own. I respect all other opinions and views equally, but keep in mind that my opinion will always be the best for me. That's why it's my opinion.
Originally posted by redrain84 I have played GW2 a few times this year and I cant understand what makes it so popular.. It had 5,519,402 hit this year, the 2 other games behind it were FFXIV ARR with 2.822,729 hits, and swtor with 2132,26. So statistically speaking this is the best MMO out at the moment, why? It isn't that good, what am I missing? I thought swtor was the best mmo of the year.
If you don't know then pointless trying to convert you... As for swtor that game for me was pants and I will never log back into that game again.
Originally posted by tom_gore GW2 gets most hits because they release new stuff every 2 weeks. Simple as that. Oh and because it's probably the second most popular MMO in the west currently, and WoW players generally don't frequent MMORPG.com.
It cannot even compete with EVE, numbers even say SWTOR is making more revenue than GW2 right now.
Originally posted by Sleepyfish Originally posted by tom_gore GW2 gets most hits because they release new stuff every 2 weeks. Simple as that. Oh and because it's probably the second most popular MMO in the west currently, and WoW players generally don't frequent MMORPG.com.
Originally posted by bcbully Because for 365 days, there's been atleast one feature and or news on the front page of this site.
"Only in quiet waters do things mirror themselves undistorted. Only in a quiet mind is adequate perception of the world." Hans Margolius
What you mean cannot compete with EVE numbers?
Not only GW2 has more players than EVE, in terms of revenue GW2 did in 1 year what EVE did in 6 or 7 years.
"Revenue has been growing too, at a compound annual growth rate of 53 percent, bringing in total revenue of $300 million over the game’s lifetime. As for profits, CCP would only say that it has “very healthy margins” — a claim backed up by the fact that it has grown to more than 450 employees despite only raising $3 million in seed funding."
Currently playing: GW2Going cardboard starter kit: Ticket to ride, Pandemic, Carcassonne, Dominion, 7 Wonders
Originally posted by Sleepyfish Attention does not equal population swell, TOR got a lot of attention as well after its release mostly because the complaints about the game were swelling the forums. Much of that is also true with GW2.
See this is just your opinion so nobody really cares