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  September 2013

  Vehicles

  To keep it readable I will call Driver, Passenger and Gunner: D, P and G.
  The number next to “upgrades” is the number of upgrades a vehicle can get.
  All vehicles have a cooldown after they got destroyed. All squads and strikeforces have a limit of useable vehicle types at the same time, the limit is based on the amount of members (active).
  
  Rhino
  Standard transportation vehicle with many different purposes and upgrades.
  Armor:              2/4
  Cannons:        1 Storm Bolter (D)
  Abilities:           Searchlight (1P), Smoke grenade (D), evacuate (D), Ammunition-depot
  Speed:             2/3
  Price:                1/4
  Positions:        1D, 9P (Cant carry Terminators)
  Upgrades 4:    Dozer Blade, Hunter Killermissile, Extra Armor,
                             roof Stormbolter (+1G -1P), Commander Radar
                             replace D-weapon with twin-linked Lascannons or Multi-Melta,
  
  Bike
  Small, fast transportation vehicle.
  Armor:               1/4
  Cannons:          2 Bolters (D)
  Abilities:            Jump off(D/G), Melee swing left/right (D)
  Speed:              3/3
  Price:                 1/4
  Positions:         1D (Cant carry Terminators)
  Upgrades 2:     Replace 1 Bolter with Plasma/flamer/metla
  Evolution:          Attack Bike
  
  Attack Bike
  Bigger bike
  Armor:              1/4
  Cannons:        2 Bolters (D), Heavy Bolter (G)
  Abilities:           Jump off(D/G), Melee swing right (D)
  Speed:             3/3
  Price:                2/4
  Positions:        1D, 1G (Cant carry Terminators)
  Upgrades 2:    Replace 1 Bolter with Plasma/flamer/metla
                             Replace heavy bolter with Lascannon or Multi-Melta
  
  
  Land Speeder
  Fast anti-grav vehicle.
  Armor:             1/4
  Cannons:       1 Heavy Bolter (G)
  Abilities:          Jump off(D/G), high jump (D)
  Speed:             3/3
  Price:               1/4
  Positions:       1D, 1G (Cant carry Terminators)
  Upgrades 1:    replace G-weapon with Multi-melta or Lascannon
  Evolution:         Land speeder Tornado, Land speeder Toyphoon,
                             Land speeder Storm, Land speeder Vengeance
  
  
  Land Speeder Tornado
  Fast anti-grav vehicle.
  Armor:             1/4
  Cannons:       1 twin-linked missile launcher (D), 1 Heavy Bolter (G)
  Abilities:          Jump off(D/G), high jump (D)
  Speed:            3/3
  Price:               2/4
  Positions:       1D, 1G (Cant carry Terminators)
  Upgrades 1:    replace G-weapon with Multi-melta or Lascannon
  
  Land Speeder Typhoon
  Fast anti-grav vehicle.
  Armor:             1/4
  Cannons:       1 Heavy Flamer (D), 1 Heavy Bolter (G)
  Abilities:           Jump off(D/G), high jump (D)
  Speed:             3/3
  Price:                2/4
  Positions:        1D, 1G (Cant carry Terminators)
  Upgrades 1:    replace G-weapon with Multi-melta or Lascannon, replace D-weapon with assault cannon
  
  Land Speeder Storm
  Fast anti-grav vehicle.
  Armor:             1/4
  Cannons:       1 Heavy Bolter (G)
  Abilities:          Jump off(D/G), high jump (D), Sabotage Teleport homers
  Speed:             3/3
  Price:                2/4
  Positions:        1D, 1G, 3P (Cant carry Terminators)
  Upgrades 1:    replace G-weapon with heavy flamer, multi-melta, assault cannon
  
  Land Raider
  Heavy tank.
  Armor:             4/4
  Cannons:       1 Twin-linked Heavy Bolter (1G), 2 Twin-linked Lascannons (2G)
  Abilities:          Searchlight (1P), Evacuate (D)
  Speed:            1/3
  Price:               3/4
  Positions:       1D, 3G, 8P (Can carry Terminators 2P each)
  Upgrades 3:    Dozer Blade or Assault ramp, Hunter Killermissile, Extra Armor,
                             roof Storm bolter/Multimelta (+1G -1P)
  Evolution:        Land Raider Prometheus, Land Raider Terminus Ultra
  
  Predator
  Mid-heavy tank.
  Armor:              3/4
  Cannons:        Autocannon (1G), 2 Heavy Bolters (2G)
  Abilities:           Searchlight (D)
  Speed:             2/3
  Price:                3/4
  Positions:        1D, 3G
  Upgrades 3:    Dozer Blade, Extra Armor, roof Storm Bolter(+1G)
                             Replace Autocannon with twin-linked Lascannons
                             Replace Heavy Bolter with Lascannon
  Evolution:         Baal Predator
  
  Vindicator
  Siege weapon.
  Armor:               2/4
  Cannons:         1 Demolisher Cannon (G)
  Abilities:    
  Speed:              2/3
  Price:                 3/4
  Positions:         1D, 1G
  Upgrades 2:    Siege Shield, Extra Armor, Storm Bolter(D), Hunter-killer Missile
  
  Whirlwind
  Longrange tank.
  Armor:              2/4
  Cannons:        Whirlwind multiple missile launcher (G)
  Abilities:           Missile Barrage (D)
  Speed:             2/4
  Price:                3/4
  Positions:        1D, 1G
  Upgrades 2:    Dozer Blade, Extra Armor, Storm Bolter (D)
  
  Support vehicles
  
  Thunderfire Cannon
  Mobile anti infantry wagon.
  Armor:         1/4
  Cannons:    Thunderfire Cannon
  Abilities:       Shoot/move stance, can be pulled by a rhino
  Speed:         0,5/3
  Price:            2/4
  Positions:    1D
  
  Tarantula
  Main structure defense unit, bought by the war council.
  Armor:          1/4
  Cannons:    2 Heavy Bolter or 2 lascannon
  Speed:         0/3
  Price:            2/4
  Positions:    A.I. controlled
  
  Rapier Armoured Carrier
  Mobile anti tank wagon.
  Armor:           1/4
  Cannons:     quad linked lascannon    
  Abilities:        Shoot/move stance, can be pulled by a rhino
  Speed:          0,5/3
  Price:             3/4
  Positions:    1D
  
  Chapter Specials
  
  Land Speeder Vengeance (Dark Angels)
  Special heavier land speeder.
  Armor:             2/4
  Cannons:       2 Plasma Storm Battery (1G), 1 Assault Cannon (1G)
  Abilities:          Jump Off
  Speed:            2/3
  Price:               2/4
  Positions:       1D, 2G
  
  Land Raider Prometheus (UItramarines)
  Special command Heavy tank.
  Armor:             4/4
  Cannons:       Storm Bolter (D), 2 twin-linked heavy Bolter (2G)
  Abilities:          Searchlight (1P), Smoke grenade (D), evacuate (D), Commander Radar
  Speed:            1/3
  Price:               4/4
  Positions:       1D, 2G, 6P (Can carry Terminators 2P each)
  Upgrades 3:    roof Storm bolter (+1G -1P), Extra Armor, Dozer Blade or Assault ramp
                            Hunter-Killer Missile, replace storm bolter with Multi-melta
  
  Baal Predator (Blood Angels)
  Special mid-heavy tank.
  Armor:              3/4
  Cannons:         twin-linked assault cannons (1G), 2 Heavy Bolters (2G)
  Abilities:           Searchlight (D)
  Speed:             2/3
  Price:                3/4
  Positions:        1D, 3G
  Upgrades 3:    Dozer Blade, Extra Armor, Storm Bolter(D)
                             Replace twin-linked assault cannons with Flamestorm Cannon
                             Replace Heavy Bolter with Heavy Flamer
  
  Land Raider Terminus Ultra (Space Wolfs)
  Special heavy armed heavy tank.
  Armor:              4/4
  Cannons:        1 twin-linked Lascannons (1G), 2 twin-linked Lascannons (2G), 2 Lascannons (2G)
  Abilities:           Searchlight (D)
  Speed:             1/3
  Price:                4/4
  Positions:        1D, 5G (Cant carry Terminators)
  Upgrades 1:    Extra Armor, Dozer Blade or Assault ramp, Hunter-Killer Missile
   

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• Savij Member Posts: 341

  September 2013

  Explanations
  Stats
  Health
  The amount of Damage someone could take after his Armor got shred or bypassed and before he would fall in downstate. Regenerates slowly. Higher number equals in higher Healt-pool.
                  
  Armor
  The amount of Damage someone need to do before he can damage the target.
  Regenerates fast. Higher number equals in a higher resistant.
  
  Ranged Combat
  The ability and arsenal-range indicator for ranged weapons. Higher number means a bigger arsenal to pick from and a more accurate aiming.
          
  Melee Combat
  The ability and arsenal-range indicator for ranged weapons. Higher number means a bigger arsenal to pick from and a longer attack combo.
          
  Mobility
  Does not represent the movement speed (it’s the same for all except terminators).
  A higher number means more abilities for movements and more accurate in his moves, for example: an assault marine will stop much faster after a sprint then a devastator.
  
  Weapons
  Bolter
  Standard Space Marine Rifle.
  Damage:        5/10
  Armor Pen.:    4/10
  Rate of fire:     7/10
  Accuracy:        7/10
  Range:            7/10
  Clip-Size:        24
  Special:           Can be used with different ammunition.
  
  Stalker Bolter
  Modified Bolter for sniping.
  Damage:        8/10
  Armor Pen.:    8/10
  Rate of fire:     3/10
  Accuracy:         10/10
  Range:            10/10
  Clip-Size:        10
  Special:          Can zoom, can be used with Stalker Silenced Shells.
  
  Storm Bolter
  Double barreled Bolter.
  Damage:        4/10
  Armor Pen.:    4/10
  Rate of fire:    10/10
  Accuracy:        5/10
  Range:            5/10
  Clip-Size:        48
  Special:           -
  
  Combi Bolter
  A Bolter with a flamer/plasma gun/metla gun attached on it.
  Clip-Size 1:    24
  Clip-Size 2:    half the normal size and no extra clips.
  Special:          Have 2 fire-modes, stats are the same like the 2 weapons
  
  Flamer
  The good old flamethrower.
  Damage:        2/10
  Armor Pen.:    0/10
  Rate of fire:    10/10
  Accuracy:        10/10
  Range:            2/10
  Clip-Size:       100
  Special:          Heat system, Cone of effect, ignores most armors and cover.
  
  Plasma Gun
  Melts through armor.
  Damage:        5/10
  Armor Pen.:    9/10
  Rate of fire:     5/10
  Accuracy:         8/10
  Range:            7/10
  Clip-Size:        50
  Special:           Heat system, charged shot.
      
  Melta Gun
  Nothing can stand a shot of this.
  Damage:        10/10
  Armor Pen.:    10/10
  Rate of fire:     1/10
  Accuracy:         10/10
  Range:             1/10
  Clip-Size:         5
  Special:           Cone of effect
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  Plasma Pistol
  The handy armor melta.
  Damage:        5/10
  Armor Pen.:    9/10
  Rate of fire:     3/10
  Accuracy:        6/10
  Range:            6/10
  Clip-Size:         20
  Special:          can overheat, charged shot.
      
  Bolt Pistol
  Standard Space Marine secondary weapon
  Damage:        5/10
  Armor Pen.:    4/10
  Rate of fire:     3/10
  Accuracy:        4/10
  Range:            6/10
  Clip-Size:         10
  Special:           -
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  Grenade Launcher
  Damage:        8/10
  Armor Pen.:    8/10
  Rate of fire:     3/10
  Accuracy:        5/10
  Range:            4/10
  Clip-Size:        10
  Special:          Area of effect.
      
  Missile Launcher
  One-shot anti tank weapon.
  Damage:        10/10
  Armor Pen.:    10/10
  Rate of fire:     1/10
  Accuracy:         7/10
  Range:            8/10
  Clip-Size:        1
  Special:          Cant be shot while moving. Area of effect.
  
  Lascannon
  Big Laser-sniper-rifle.
  Damage:        9/10
  Armor Pen.:    9/10
  Rate of fire:     1/10
  Accuracy:        10/10
  Range:            10/10
  Clip-Size:         5
  Special:           Cant be shot while moving.
  
  Soundstrike Missile Launcher
  Auto loading Missile launcher
  Damage:        8/10
  Armor Pen.:    8/10
  Rate of fire:     4/10
  Accuracy:         7/10
  Range:            8/10
  Clip-Size:         25
  Special:          Cant be shot without stance. Area of effect.
  
  Plasma cannon
  Big brother of Plasma gun.
  Damage:         8/10
  Armor Pen.:    10/10
  Rate of fire:     1/10
  Accuracy:         5/10
  Range:            6/10
  Clip-Size:        30
  Special:          Heat system, need to charge shot.  Area of effect.
  
  Multi-melta
  Heavy version of the melta gun.
  Damage:        10/10
  Armor Pen.:    10/10
  Rate of fire:     1/10
  Accuracy:        10/10
  Range:            3/10
  Clip-Size:         5
  Special:           The user is slowed down, Cone of effect, Cant be shot without stance.
  
  Heavy bolter
  Big Bolter.
  Damage:        5/10
  Armor Pen.:    4/10
  Rate of fire:     8/10
  Accuracy:         7/10
  Range:            7/10
  Clip-Size:        200
  Special:          Heat system, Can be shot without stance with penalty to accuracy and rate of fire.
  
  Assault cannon
  Gatling like cannon.
  Damage:        5/10
  Armor Pen.:    4/10
  Rate of fire:    10/10
  Accuracy:        6/10
  Range:            8/10
  Clip-Size:        300
  Special:          Movement slowed down a lot while shooting.
  
  Heavy flamer
  If one flamer isn’t enough, take the double barreled.
  Damage:        4/10
  Armor Pen.:    0/10
  Rate of fire:    10/10
  Accuracy:        10/10
  Range:            3/10
  Clip-Size:        200
  Special:          Heat system, Cone of effect, ignores most armors and cover.
  
  Conversion beam projector
  A heavy energy weapon, the laserbeam explode when hit something.
  Damage:        10/10
  Armor Pen.:    10/10
  Rate of fire:     1/10
  Accuracy:        10/10
  Range:            10/10
  Clip-Size:        10
  Special:           Need to charge the shot and cant be redirected while charging requires stance.
                            Overheats if charged to long. Area of effect.
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  Eviscerator
  Damage:        8/10
  Armor Pen.:    5/10
  Swing-spd.:   4/10
  Block-spd.:     4/10
  Range:            3/4
  
  Power Halberd
  Damage:        6/10
  Armor Pen.:    9/10
  Swing-spd.:    3/10
  Block-spd.:     6/10
  Range:            4/4
  
  Chain Halberd
  Damage:        8/10
  Armor Pen.:    5/10
  Swing-spd.:    3/10
  Block-spd.:     6/10
  Range:            4/4
  
  Thunder Hammer
  Damage:        10/10
  Armor Pen.:    10/10
  Swing-spd.:    1/10
  Block-spd.:     1/10
  Range:            3/4
  
  2-Handed Power Sword
  Damage:         7/10
  Armor Pen.:    8/10
  Swing-spd.:    4/10
  Block-spd.:     4/10
  Range:            3/4
  
  Dual Lightning Claws
  Damage:        8/10
  Armor Pen.:    10/10
  Swing-spd.:    6/10
  Block-spd.:     6/10
  Range:            2/4
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  Thunder Hammer (1-handed)
  Damage:        7/10
  Armor Pen.:    7/10
  Swing-spd.:    5/10
  Block-spd.:     4/10
  Range:            2/4
  
  Chain Sword
  Damage:        7/10
  Armor Pen.:    4/10
  Swing-spd.:    8/10
  Block-spd.:     6/10
  Range:            2/4
  
  
  Power Knife
  Damage:        4/10
  Armor Pen.:    7/10
  Swing-spd.:    10/10
  Block-spd.:     8/10
  Range:            1/4
  
  Power Sword
  Damage:        5/10
  Armor Pen.:    8/10
  Swing-spd.:    8/10
  Block-spd.:     6/10
  Range:            2/4
  
  Power Mace
  Damage:        5/10
  Armor Pen.:    9/10
  Swing-spd.:    6/10
  Block-spd.:     6/10
  Range:            2/4
  
  
  Power Axe
  Damage:        6/10
  Armor Pen.:    8/10
  Swing-spd.:    7/10
  Block-spd.:     5/10
  Range:            2/4
  
  Power Fist
  Damage:        7/10
  Armor Pen.:    8/10
  Swing-spd.:    5/10
  Block-spd.:    8/10
  Range:           1/4
  
  Chain Fist
  Damage:         5/10
  Armor Pen.:    4/10
  Swing-spd.:    9/10
  Block-spd.:     8/10
  Range:            1/4
  
  Narthecium
  Damage:         5/10
  Armor Pen.:     5/10
  Swing-spd.::    9/10
  Block-spd.:      8/10
  Range:             1/4
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  Blind Grenade
  Special:          Blinds enemies who are standing nearby or looking in its direction.
  
  Frag Grenade
  Damage:        7/10
  Armor Pen.:    3/10
  Special:          Explodes into shrapnels, leaves hit targets staggering. Small AoE.
  
  Krak Grenade
  Damage:        4/10
  Armor Pen.:    7/10
  Special:           Big AoE. Can knockdown.
  
  Smoke Grenade
  Special:           smokes a big area. Color can be chosen.
  
  Micro Grenades
  Damage:        5/10
  Armor Pen.:    3/10
  Special:           Throws a cluster of 10 micro grenades over an area. Small AoE.
  
  Melta-Bomb
  Damage:        10/10
  Armor Pen.:    10/10
  Special:           Cant be thrown, needs to be placed on ground, wall or object. Can be detonated manually.

  Chapter Specials

  All chapter specials are extremely rare and hard to obtain!
  
  Blood Angels

   Angelus Bolter (Tactical Marine)   
  Special Bolter with bigger clip-size.
  Damage:    5/10
  Armor Pen.:    4/10
  Rate of fire:    7/10
  Accuracy:    7/10
  Range:    7/10
  Clip-Size:    35
  Special:     Can be used with different ammunition.
  
  I nferno Pistol (Assault) 
  Small Melta gun.
  Damage:    10/10
  Armor Pen.:    10/10
  Rate of fire:    1/10
  Accuracy:    10/10
  Range:    1/10
  Clip-Size:    1
  Special:     Cone of effect
  
      Exsanguinator (Sanguinary Priest)
  Medical device made for combat.
  Damage:    7/10
  Armor Pen.:    5/10
  Swingspeed:    9/10
  Block-spd.:    8/10
  Range:    1/4
  
  Dark Angels

      Corvus Hammer (Assault)
  specialized pick which consisted of a hammer modified to provide additional power during impact.
  Damage:    6/10
  Armor Pen.:    10/10
  Swingspeed:    6/10
  Block-spd.:    6/10
  Range:    2/4
  
      Flail of the Unforgiven (Terminator)
  2-Handed Flail which is slow but powerful.
  Damage:    8/10
  Armor Pen.:    8/10
  Swingspeed:    1/10
  Block-spd.:    1/10
  Range:    3/4
  Special:    AoE
  
  Furious Vengeance (Tactical)
   Special Bolter. 
  Damage:    5/10
  Armor Pen.:    4/10
  Rate of fire:    7/10
  Accuracy:    8/10
  Range:    7/10
  Clip-Size:    24
  Special:     Can be used with different ammunition,
  extra damage to chaos space marines
  
  Ultramarines

  Gladius (all) 
  Longer then a dagger, shorter then a sword
  Damage:    5/10
  Armor Pen.:    7/10
  Swingspeed:    10/10
  Block-spd.:    8/10
  Range:    1,5/4
  
   Gilded Boltgun (Tactical) 
  Special Bolter.
  Damage:    6/10
  Armor Pen.:    5/10
  Rate of fire:    7/10
  Accuracy:    8/10
  Range:    7/10
  Clip-Size:    24
  Special:     Can be used with different ammunition
  
   Axe of Ultramar (Assault) 
  Special Power Axe.
  Damage:    6/10
  Armor Pen.:    8/10
  Swingspeed:    8/10
  Block-spd.:    6/10
  Range:    2/4
  
  Space Wolfs

  Fang of Morkai (Wolf priest)     
  Medical device made for combat.
  Damage:    9/10
  Armor Pen.:    4/10
  Swingspeed:    8/10
  Block-spd.:    7/10
  Range:    1/4
  
   Frost Blade (Tactical)
  Special Chainsword
  Damage:    8/10
  Armor Pen.:    5/10
  Swingspeed:    9/10
  Block-spd.:    5/10
  Range:    2/4
  
  Foehammer (Assault)
  Special Thunderhammer with teleport device.
  Damage:    7/10
  Armor Pen.:    7/10
  Swingspeed:    5/10
  Block-spd.:    4/10
  Range:    2/4
  Special:    Can be thrown, can be teleported to your hand.
   

  
  Tools
  Combat Shield
  Can be used to shield yourself from shots and melee weapons. Improves blockspeed of meleeweapon.
  
  Cyclone Missile Launcher
  Mounted on a Terminator armor, provides ability Missile Storm.
  Cant be mounted when Conversion beam projector is equipped.
  
  Healing agents
  Improves the natural regeneration of Space Marines, provides ability inject.
  Comes in a pack of 2.
  
  Reanimation-packs
  Cures downstate immediately after injection, provides ability inject.
  
  Reductor
  Provides ability Extract gene-seed.
  
  Stim-packs
  Boosts movement and swingspeed for a short time, provides ability inject.
  Comes in a pack of 2.
  
  Storm Shield
  Can be used to shield yourself from shots and melee weapons. Improves blockspeed of meleeweapon can be used with Ranged weapons.
  
  Teleporter
  Provides ability teleport.
          
  Ammo
  Acid Rounds
  Prepend health and armor regeneration for some time.
  
  Hellfire Rounds         
  Extra damage in against tyranids.
  
  Inferno Bolts             
  The target gets after-burn damage
  
  Kraken Pen. Rounds    
  lower Damage, high armor-penetration
  
  Metal Storm Frag Shells     
  Higher Damage, low armor-penetration
  
  Odysseus Bolts         
  Hit targets get visible on map for some time
  
  Stalker Silenced Shells     
  no direction indicator silent impact and shot, for Stalker Bolter
  
  Concussion Missiles
  anti Fortification/Cover, AoE
  
  Flakk Missiles         
  anti air, small AoE, heatseak
  
  Frag Missiles         
  anti Infantry, big AoE
  
  Krak Missiles         
  anti tank, small AoE
  
  Abilities
  Combat roll
  Rolls into running direction to be a smaller target. (like in space marine)
  
  Extract gene-seed
  Knees down to extract the gene-seed of a fallen battle brother.
  Let the owner of the gene-seed respawn immediately. Short cooldown.
  
  Infrared scan
  Scans a small area in front of you, detects hidden mines and heat signals behind objects. Long  cooldown.
  
  Inject
  Injects stim-packs, Healing agents or Reanimation-packs. Short cooldown.
  
  Jumppack Charge
  A short horizontal jetsprint into running direction. Mid-long cooldown
  
  Jumppack Jump    
  A high and long jump. Short cooldown (like in space marine)
  
  Jumppack Meteor
  Burst down to the ground out of jump. (like in space marine)
  
  Missile storm
  Launches a Missile storm (a mix of 12 Krak/frag missiles) over a chosen area.
  After activating the skill you will have a marked area under your crosshair, place it where you want the missiles to go, very long cooldown. (similar to DoW2)
  
  Shoot while sprinting
  Can shoot while sprinting with just a small accuracy and speed penalty. (ya bad name)
  
  Shooting stance (Devastator)
  Gets into position to shoot heavy weapons.
  Required to shoot many heavy weapons. (like in space marine)
  
  Shooting stance (Terminator)
  Nails yourself on the ground, getting out of this position taking longer then devastator. Required to shoot Conversion beam projector.
  
  Teleport
  Teleports yourself to a chosen area. Needs to charge shortly.
  Hold down your abilitybutton, wait for a marked disc to appear, this disc moves into the chosen direction until it reaches its maximum or you release the button, teleport to the disc. Mid-long cooldown
  
  Unshakeable
  Cant be knocked down or staggering, less recoil with ranged weapons.
  
  Unstoppable Charge
  Replaces sprint. While charging you knockdown every lighter class you hit and leaves heavy classes staggering. Takes more time to stop after the charge.
   

   

  Vehicles
  
  Weapons

  2 Bolters (D)
  2 simultaneously firing bolters.
  Damage:        5/10
  Armor Pen.:    4/10
  Rate of fire:     7/10
  Accuracy:         7/10
  Range:            7/10
  Ammo:            200
  
  Assault Cannon (1G)
  Gatling like cannon.
  Damage:         5/10
  Armor Pen.:     4/10
  Rate of fire:    10/10
  Accuracy:         6/10
  Range:             8/10
  Ammo:             600
  
  Autocannon (G)
  Shots big rounds.
  Damage:         8/10
  Armor Pen.:    6/10
  Rate of fire:     2/10
  Accuracy:         7/10
  Range:            8/10
  Ammo:            120
  Special:           Small AoE
  
  Demolisher Cannon (G)
  Shots very big rounds.
  Damage:       10/10
  Armor Pen.:    8/10
  Rate of fire:    1/10
  Accuracy:        5/10
  Range:           5/10
  Ammo:           25
  Special:          Large AoE
  
  Flamestorm Cannon (G)
  Even bigger then the heavy flamer.
  Damage:        4/10
  Armor Pen.:    0/10
  Rate of fire:    10/10
  Accuracy:        10/10
  Range:             5/10
  Ammo:             300
  Special:           Heat system, Cone of effect, ignores most armors and cover.
  
  Heavy Bolter (G)
  Big Bolter.
  Damage:         5/10
  Armor Pen.:    4/10
  Rate of fire:     8/10
  Accuracy:        7/10
  Range:            7/10
  Ammo:            600
  
  Heavy Flamer (D)
  Double barreled flamer.
  Damage:        4/10
  Armor Pen.:    0/10
  Rate of fire:     10/10
  Accuracy:         10/10
  Range:             3/10
  Ammo:             300
  Special:            Heat system, Cone of effect, ignores most armors and cover.
  
  Hunter Killermissile (D)
  Intelligent hunting missile.
  Damage:        6/10
  Armor Pen.:    5/10
  Accuracy:       10/10
  Range:           8/10
  Ammo:            1
  Special:          Dodges Obstacles, track target.
  
  Multi-Melta (D)
  Heavy version of the melta gun.
  Damage:        10/10
  Armor Pen.:    10/10
  Rate of fire:     1/10
  Accuracy:         10/10
  Range:              3/10
  Ammo:              30
  Special:            Cone of effect
  
  Plasma Storm Battery (1G)
  Vehicle mounted Plasma cannon, twin-linked.
  Damage:          8/10
  Armor Pen.:    10/10
  Rate of fire:     1/10
  Accuracy:          5/10
  Range:              6/10
  Ammo:              200
  Special:            Heat system, can charge shot for bigger Area of effect.
  
  quad linked lascannon (D)    
  Nothing can stand a hit of this one.
  Damage:         9/10
  Armor Pen.:    9/10
  Rate of fire:     1/10
  Accuracy:        10/10
  Range:            10/10
  Ammo:             80
  
  roof Multimelta (+1G -1P)
  Damage:         10/10
  Armor Pen.:    10/10
  Rate of fire:      1/10
  Accuracy:        10/10
  Range:             3/10
  Ammo:             30
  Special:           Cone of effect, the gunner can be hit.
  
  roof Stormbolter (+1G -1P)
  Double barreled Bolter.
  Damage:        4/10
  Armor Pen.:    4/10
  Rate of fire:    10/10
  Accuracy:         5/10
  Range:             5/10
  Ammo:             400
  Special:            The gunner can be hit.
  
  Storm Bolter (D)
  Double barreled Bolter.
  Damage:        4/10
  Armor Pen.:    4/10
  Rate of fire:    10/10
  Accuracy:          5/10
  Range:             5/10
  Ammo:             800
  
  Thunderfire Cannon (D)
  Like a fast firing auto cannon.
  Damage:         8/10
  Armor Pen.:    6/10
  Rate of fire:     6/10
  Accuracy:         5/10
  Range:             8/10
  Ammo:             40
  Special:            Small AoE
  
  twin-linked missile launcher (D)
  Double 6 barreled Missile launcher.
  Damage:        10/10
  Armor Pen.:    10/10
  Rate of fire:     1/10
  Accuracy:         7/10
  Range:            8/10
  Ammo:            12
  Special:           Area of effect.
  
  Whirlwind multiple missile launcher (G)
  Long range Missile Launcher.
  Damage:        10/10
  Armor Pen.:    10/10
  Rate of fire:      2/10
  Accuracy:         8/10
  Range:            10/10
  Ammo:             60
  Special:           Area of effect.
  
  Abilities

  can be pulled by a rhino
  can be attached to a rhino for fast traveling.
  
  Commander Radar
  Improved and more detailed radar for this unit and all who are around this unit.
  
  Evacuate (D)
  Throws out all passengers immediately!
  
  high jump (D)
  this unit can perform jumps.
  
  Hunter Killermissile (D)
  Fires a tracking missile on the targeted enemy vehicle.
  
  Jump off (D/G)
  Jump off your vehicle, you may take damage if the vehicle was to fast or there is an obstacle.
  
  Melee swing left/right (D)
  Use your melee weapon to the left or right.
  
  Melee swing right (D)
  Use your melee weapon to the right.
  
  Missile Barrage (D)
  Shot your whole missile magazine over a chosen area.
  
  Sabotage Teleport homers (D)
  Nearby teleport homers or similar will malfunction.
  
  Searchlight (1P)
  Use it to bring light into dark corners or in the night.
  
  Shoot/move stance (D)
  Swap between shooting and driving.
  
  Smoke grenade (D)
  Shots a big smoke grenade to cut enemy view.
  
  Updates

  Ammunition-depot
  Infantry can get ammo here.
  
  Assault ramp
  A frontal exit for direct storm attacks out of a vehicle
  
  Commander Radar
  Unlock commander radar ability
  
  Dozer Blade
  Extra front protection and stronger ram damage.
  
  Extra Armor
  Extra armor which is not repairable.

  Hunter Killermissile
  Unlock Hunter Killermissile (D) ability.

  Siege Shield
  Stronger then Dozer Blade but no extra ram damage.
   

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• grigdusher Member UncommonPosts: 139

  September 2013

  no grav gun and combi grav? no heavy flamer? 

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• Savij Member Posts: 341

  September 2013

  Originally posted by grigdusher
  no grav gun and combi grav? no heavy flamer? 

  i tried to avoid all extreme rare weapons to get no stress with the lorelovers

  you can find heavy flamer in the "terminator arsenal" and in the "Explanation weapon section"

  or you would like to see it for devastators too?

   

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• Aconti Member Posts: 20

  September 2013

  Wow Savij, thats some list. Great work.

  I was/am a massive fan of Space Marine but if there was one or two things i'd like to have added to the game it would've been:

  1) More weapons, something you've addressed

  2) More perk slots/load out options.

  Really hope Eternal Crusade delivers on those points.
• grigdusher Member UncommonPosts: 139

  September 2013

  Originally posted by quotheraving

  Originally posted by aconti

  Wow Savij, thats some list. Great work.

  I was/am a massive fan of Space Marine but if there was one or two things i'd like to have added to the game it would've been:

  1) More weapons, something you've addressed

  2) More perk slots/load out options.

  Really hope Eternal Crusade delivers on those points.

  Seconded 

   

  However there's a couple of things I'd change.

   

  Firstly if you plan on making the troop roles very distinct it may not be a great idea to allow Tactical marines the option of carrying lascannons since these are pretty much the heaviest of heavy weapons.

   

  Secondly, why hive off the terminator as a class of it's own when you could have it as a calldown booster for any of the other classes, a bit like a MAX in PS2 - 

  Afterall Terminators can be Assault oriented when equipped with lightning claws, thunderhammer / storm shield or fill a more Tactical role when equipped with a storm bolter, or even serve as a Heavy weapons trooper when packing an assault cannon. I'm not 100% sure, but I think even support specialists such as Apothecaries or Chaplains can be equipped with Tactical Dreadnought Armor. 

   

  chaplain and librian have terminator armor model.  grey knight have apothecary terminator. only techmarine don't use terminator armor (for the  servo harness).

  

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• BeerSamurai Member Posts: 69

  September 2013

  In the weapons section, replace vengeance launcher with grenade launcher.  The vengeance launcher was

  1) Just a gimmick weapon in Space Marine

  2) A prototype grenade launcher from a forge world that would be eaten by Tyranids a few years later, so all means of producing it are lost anyway.

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• Savij Member Posts: 341

  September 2013

  Originally posted by BeerSamurai

  In the weapons section, replace vengeance launcher with grenade launcher.  The vengeance launcher was

  1) Just a gimmick weapon in Space Marine

  2) A prototype grenade launcher from a forge world that would be eaten by Tyranids a few years later, so all means of producing it are lost anyway.

  aye sir will do. thanks for your help!

   

  Originally posted by quotheraving

  Originally posted by aconti

  Wow Savij, thats some list. Great work.

  I was/am a massive fan of Space Marine but if there was one or two things i'd like to have added to the game it would've been:

  1) More weapons, something you've addressed

  2) More perk slots/load out options.

  Really hope Eternal Crusade delivers on those points.

  Seconded 

   

  However there's a couple of things I'd change.

   

  Firstly if you plan on making the troop roles very distinct it may not be a great idea to allow Tactical marines the option of carrying lascannons since these are pretty much the heaviest of heavy weapons.

  agree on this point i think i will swap this weapon to devastators and maybe terminators too

   Secondly, why hive off the terminator as a class of it's own when you could have it as a calldown booster for any of the other classes, a bit like a MAX in PS2 - 

  Afterall Terminators can be Assault oriented when equipped with lightning claws, thunderhammer / storm shield or fill a more Tactical role when equipped with a storm bolter, or even serve as a Heavy weapons trooper when packing an assault cannon. I'm not 100% sure, butI think even support specialists such as Apothecaries or Chaplains can be equipped with Tactical Dreadnought Armor.

  its an own class for me because the equip is kinda different then for the other classes.

  since you will be able to swap classes ingame I think the easiest solution for terminators is it to make it like PS2 did

  but tell me how you would like to see it, more like just some heavy armor with some more equip options but your class stays the same?

  Originally posted by aconti

  Wow Savij, thats some list. Great work.

  I was/am a massive fan of Space Marine but if there was one or two things i'd like to have added to the game it would've been:

  1) More weapons, something you've addressed

  2) More perk slots/load out options.

  Really hope Eternal Crusade delivers on those points.

  yes i think a wide range of weapons is very important to not let everyone use the same weapons over and over again ^^

  i hasnt thought about perks yet maybe someone could help me with that?

   

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• irpugboss Member UncommonPosts: 427

  September 2013

  I think they need to keep one thing in mind about all the classes.

  The character is not the class, and the class is nothing more than a combination of equipment

  By space marine standards as they "level up" or get rank within a chapter they get specialized and/or gain access to more of the armory.

  By the end of a Space Marines career at the highest level they can get Power Armor, Artificer Armor, Master-Crafted Armor, Terminator Armor and all kinds of weapons that they prefer.

  Basically what I am getting to is the more options the better as players level up, make it like a tutorial for each weapon as you unlock them on your way to complete the armory selection. Make players select the loadout for the battle and not be restrained to a kit based on their "class"...or if classes must be around in some form make it nothing more than a predetermined loadout that is selected prior to entering the battlefield which you can specialize in to enhance your usage of the equipment.

  Only unchangeable class would pretty much be psyker or not pskyer, everything else can be equipment players unlock and train with throughout their "career" as a space marine lol.

  The original post would be a great example of equipment combinations and specializations for players to progress through.

  
• Savij Member Posts: 341

  September 2013

  i updated my first post

  now have a gameplay description to make sure that the terminator isnt a standard unit

   

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• Aconti Member Posts: 20

  September 2013

  It'll be interesting to see how Terminators are incorporated and used in EC or what the developers have planned for them. In a way I hope they remain a rare sight as "The scarcity and expense to maintain Terminator suits means they are available only to the elite troops from the veteran companies".

  I'd like to see Terminator suits as the ultimate reward for leveling up your character i.e. you've taken your scout/initiate Marine through countless campaigns gaining better wargear, experience, purity seals, perks & equipment etc. He's fought countless enemies and gained Veteran status - then after obtaining more experience/rewards/kills etc as a Veteran he gets the elusive Terminator Armour!

  I like your breakdown Savij but i'm not happy about the speed reduction you've given the Termie. These boys are the elite of the elite and should be difficult to kill with very little weaknesses - certainly not in the way of speed/reactions.

  I just feel Terminator armour would make an excellent reward or incentive to keep leveling up your Marine and pushing for Veteran status etc.
• Savij Member Posts: 341

  September 2013

  Originally posted by aconti

  It'll be interesting to see how Terminators are incorporated and used in EC or what the developers have planned for them. In a way I hope they remain a rare sight as "The scarcity and expense to maintain Terminator suits means they are available only to the elite troops from the veteran companies".

  ya i thinkso too, that you need to reach a certain level till you can use the terminator armour

  I'd like to see Terminator suits as the ultimate reward for leveling up your character i.e. you've taken your scout/initiate Marine through countless campaigns gaining better wargear, experience, purity seals, perks & equipment etc. He's fought countless enemies and gained Veteran status - then after obtaining more experience/rewards/kills etc as a Veteran he gets the elusive Terminator Armour!

  but you dont want to give it to someone permanently dont you? that would be kinda OP and we would see termies on mass in later campaigns

  I like your breakdown Savij but i'm not happy about the speed reduction you've given the Termie. These boys are the elite of the elite and should be difficult to kill with very little weaknesses - certainly not in the way of speed/reactions.

  hmm well i dont want the termie to get baited in any situation but having him mobile like other classes would look abit strange, dont you think so? maybe give him "normal" speed when wielding a melee weapon? so there is no disadvantage for the melee lovers (or maybe the teleporter is enough) need to be tested i think :P

  I just feel Terminator armour would make an excellent reward or incentive to keep leveling up your Marine and pushing for Veteran status etc.

   

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• Aconti Member Posts: 20

  September 2013

  Originally posted by Savij

  but you dont want to give it to someone permanently dont you? that would be kinda OP and we would see termies on mass in later campaigns

  I thought that too at first. But by the time we start seeing 'mass terminators' the same/similar amount of people playing the other factions will have unlocked their high powered characters/Veterans too? That way you'll probably have similar amounts of 'OP' players/Veterans on each faction?

  Taking Space Marina, Call of Duty & Battlefield as an example I frequently come across the odd level 41/Prestige Masters etc but never a whole team of them. And using the right tatics/teamplay against these guys you can still bring them down to a peg or two

  I guess what i'm trying to say is out of the thousands of players of these games, only a small percentage of them will be willing to put in the graft/time/energy etc into obtaining the max level (& unlocking Terminator armour). As such I don't think you'll be seeing Terminators on mass?

  Maybe I'm underestimating WH40K fans commitment to the Emperor though?
• Savij Member Posts: 341

  September 2013

  Originally posted by aconti

  Originally posted by Savij

  but you dont want to give it to someone permanently dont you? that would be kinda OP and we would see termies on mass in later campaigns

  I thought that too at first. But by the time we start seeing 'mass terminators' the same/similar amount of people playing the other factions will have unlocked their high powered characters/Veterans too? That way you'll probably have similar amounts of 'OP' players/Veterans on each faction?

  Taking Space Marina, Call of Duty & Battlefield as an example I frequently come across the odd level 41/Prestige Masters etc but never a whole team of them. And using the right tatics/teamplay against these guys you can still bring them down to a peg or two

  I guess what i'm trying to say is out of the thousands of players of these games, only a small percentage of them will be willing to put in the graft/time/energy etc into obtaining the max level (& unlocking Terminator armour). As such I don't think you'll be seeing Terminators on mass?

  Maybe I'm underestimating WH40K fans commitment to the Emperor though?

  well in battlefield they get more options and stuff but have the same hp/armor pool like beginners

  but a terminator has much more armor and bigger weapons so in campaign 5+ a newcomer will have no fun with all this super tough guys around

  and we need all this newcommers to keep the game alife!

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• Aconti Member Posts: 20

  September 2013

  Originally posted by Savij

  well in battlefield they get more options and stuff but have the same hp/armor pool like beginners

  but a terminator has much more armor and bigger weapons so in campaign 5+ a newcomer will have no fun with all this super tough guys around

  and we need all this newcomers to keep the game alife!

  I hear what you're saying but it was the same for me when i first started playing Space Marine/Call of Duty etc I was the noob that suffered lots of deaths while trying to level up and unlock better equipment/wargear etc. I'd even retreat and run off to hide so i could avoid coming face to face with the higher level characters who were better skilled and had better weapons etc.

  Not saying i didn't engage them when the odds were in my favour, just i tried to pick my battles wisely. In Space Marine the assault marines (lowest armour) can easily take on a devastator with iron halo (highest armour) when using the right tactics and opportunities.

  As i think Miguel has stated "war isn't balanced". You're right though, absolutely we want to encourage newcomers and want them to stay to be part of the community so a degree of balance is necessary.

  Even the best/strongest players/characters can fall to a simple opportunist grenade, sniper fire or concentrated well thought out outflanking maneuver though?
• Savij Member Posts: 341

  September 2013

  ya i can understand your point and in the early state of EC i was thinking that way too

  but finaly i saw that it will be hard to realice in a game that is based on PS2 and battlefield

   

  for example a squad mate of friends who where always fighting together from the beginning of the very first beta to the 3 campaign and all wear terminatorarmor all the time and work together like they are 1 man

  who should stopp a squad like this? and even if there are 100 players who stopp them

  who stopps the 90 players beside the 10 termies?

   

  its best to have very limited access to termies and other special units

  and maybe even extend the cooldown on termies compared to the number on termies who are ingame atm

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• Savij Member Posts: 341

  September 2013

  Added the vehicle section + glorious chapter special vehicles!

  added the vehicle explanation to the explanation section

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• grigdusher Member UncommonPosts: 139

  September 2013

  bike will be hard to balance, can be easily become OP, specially if a mounted space marine can use also the personal weapon (shotting with bikeweapon+special weapon).

  land speeder look really complex to recreate in game, they arent' simple hover veicle.

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• Savij Member Posts: 341

  September 2013

  Originally posted by grigdusher

  bike will be hard to balance, can be easily become OP, specially if a mounted space marine can use also the personal weapon (shotting with bikeweapon+special weapon).

  land speeder look really complex to recreate in game, they arent' simple hover veicle.

  well bikes are fast but low armored and the weapon is hard to aim since you cant turn it alot

  and you can hit the driver!

   

  dont know why land speeder should be hard its a light  hovering vehicle which is fast

   

  tell me more about it please

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• Policenaut Member Posts: 21

  September 2013

  I don't mean to be a NEGATIVE NANCY but I just get the feeling that having some 18 vehicles per faction would be an unreasonable expectation. I'm gonna wager it'll be more along the lines of each faction having a motorcycle, a troop transport and a tank. 

  
• Savij Member Posts: 341

  September 2013

  Originally posted by Policenaut

  I don't mean to be a NEGATIVE NANCY but I just get the feeling that having some 18 vehicles per faction would be an unreasonable expectation. I'm gonna wager it'll be more along the lines of each faction having a motorcycle, a troop transport and a tank. 

  ya thats may be right but there are so many iconic vehicles in the lore

  they cant be missed !

  what would space marines be without a rhino, predator, land speeder or a land raider?

   

  and chapter special vehicles are a nice idea i think! i want the chapters to mean more then different colors

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• grigdusher Member UncommonPosts: 139

  September 2013

  many veicles are variant of a single chassis.

  space marine have:

  bike 

  rhino (predator are rhino with a turret and sponson)

  land speeder

  land raider

   

   

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• Savij Member Posts: 341

  September 2013

  Originally posted by grigdusher

  many veicles are variant of a single chassis.

  space marine have:

  bike 

  rhino (predator are rhino with a turret and sponson)

  land speeder

  land raider

  well but EC does not need to care about this ^^ and i dont understand what does that post want to say

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• DecisiveRaindrop Member Posts: 17

  September 2013

  I think what Gridg was trying to say is that there are many vehicles of the same base. You can have 5 vehicles, just each one can be upgraded differently. Say for a Land Raider, you can have a standard land raider, or upgrade it and have it become a land raider crusader/redeemer. Have a land speeder become a tempest or transport model, have falcons become fire prisms. They can have the standard tanks be upgradable in a similar to PS2 or like DoW. This gives an additional challenge when organizing a large scale attack trying to balance your vehicles for maximum effectiveness. Each variant is specialized in different roles and have different faults, but that will help with game balancing. Just imagine seeing a dozen land raiders rolling in with different weapons burning/purging all the xeno filth, with predators and annihilators in pursuit sweeping the aliens up while the METAWL BAWKSES and razor backs offload fresh troops.
• DecisiveRaindrop Member Posts: 17

  September 2013

  Now what I feel would be an interesting aspect is if we are allowed to use thunderhawk gunships and rain down death as we tank shots capable of blowing up a predator