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  • DihoruDihoru ConstantaPosts: 2,731Member
    Originally posted by ray12k
    Originally posted by Scalpless
    Originally posted by ray12k
    Originally posted by Scalpless

    GTA V isn't popular because of its violence. It's popular because it's probably the best open world shooter ever made, with a ton of variety, amazing (for this gen of consoles) graphics and great gameplay.

    Ah no, If the game had no violence I can with out a doubt tell you it would fail. Stop lying to yourself....

    If it had no violence it wouldn't have gameplay. It's a shooter. You shoot stuff. On the other hand, if GTA5 had normal shooter violence, it'd still sell like hotcakes.

    Originally posted by ray12k

    My point was that games with the 18+ rating are the ones selling like hot cakes.  COD AND BF4 are also 18+ and many more but the 3 above dominate the gaming industry. 

    MMORPGS have a lot of catching up....

    http://www.esrb.org/ratings/synopsis.jsp?Certificate=32552&Title=Call%20of%20Duty:%20Black%20Ops%20II

    http://www.esrb.org/ratings/synopsis.jsp?Certificate=32041

    http://www.esrb.org/ratings/synopsis.jsp?Certificate=31650

    COD: Black Ops 2, BF3 and GTA5 are all rated M by ESRB, which is 16+ and the standard rating for shooters. If they were R (18+) rated, many retailers would refuse to sell them in the US, which is the reason why ESRB ratings are important.

    COD and BF3 aren't particularly violent. They've got blood and some gore, but we had much more violent stuff in the 90s.

    Rated M is 17+... seems we both were wrong.

    http://www.refinedguy.com/2013/06/11/the-30-best-selling-video-games-of-all-time/#1

    Do please continue telling us how ultra violent games are the future and how they're the best sold evah.

    The OP needs a reality check because he/she seems to be living in a certain demographic and is unable to fathom that that demographic isn't that big (it isn't small mind you but nor is it the majority).

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  • QuizzicalQuizzical Posts: 14,784Member Uncommon
    Originally posted by Panther2103
    Does everyone not remember the ultra violent games of the past? Mortal Kombat had insanely violent fatalities, having almost nothing to do with the actual gameplay and were just there to be crazy and violent. There was plenty of violent games in the past like Splatterhouse, Harvester (and a lot of the adventure games that came out around this time), almost any first person shooter had more blood than GTA and think about guns in them like the BFG and Cerebral Bore (turok 2), games have always been violent, just because one sells well doesn't mean it's the future.

    Panther already said about what I was going to say, so I'll just quote him and leave it at that.

  • ScalplessScalpless SnowballvillePosts: 1,396Member Uncommon
    Doesn't really matter what M is. The point is that popular shooters have been rated M for ages. Half-Life, Max Payne, COD, BioShock & System Shock, Quake, GTA... pretty much all popular shooters I can think of are rated M and many of these series are over a decade old. That's nothing new.
  • bonzoso21bonzoso21 Michigan, USPosts: 108Member Uncommon
    Originally posted by Scalpless
    Originally posted by ray12k
    Originally posted by Scalpless

    GTA V isn't popular because of its violence. It's popular because it's probably the best open world shooter ever made, with a ton of variety, amazing (for this gen of consoles) graphics and great gameplay.

    Ah no, If the game had no violence I can with out a doubt tell you it would fail. Stop lying to yourself....

    If it had no violence it wouldn't have gameplay. It's a shooter. You shoot stuff. On the other hand, if GTA5 had normal shooter violence, it'd still sell like hotcakes.

    Originally posted by ray12k

    My point was that games with the 18+ rating are the ones selling like hot cakes.  COD AND BF4 are also 18+ and many more but the 3 above dominate the gaming industry. 

    MMORPGS have a lot of catching up....

    http://www.esrb.org/ratings/synopsis.jsp?Certificate=32552&Title=Call%20of%20Duty:%20Black%20Ops%20II

    http://www.esrb.org/ratings/synopsis.jsp?Certificate=32041

    http://www.esrb.org/ratings/synopsis.jsp?Certificate=31650

    COD: Black Ops 2, BF3 and GTA5 are all rated M by ESRB, which is 16+ and the standard rating for shooters. If they were R (18+) rated, many retailers would refuse to sell them in the US, which is the reason why ESRB ratings are important.

    COD and BF3 aren't particularly violent. They've got blood and some gore, but we had much more violent stuff in the 90s.

     

    An M-Rating is exactly the same as an R-rating...both are age 17+, and there are no legal penalties for ignoring ratings by the MPAA or the ESRB. The AO-rating is the highest ESRB rating, at 18+, and you're correct in that any AO game would not be on shelves at most major retailers.

    I also wouldn't classify the GTA series as a simple 'shooter' along with FPS series like CoD and Battlefield. Yes, it's main weapons are firearms, but I'd think of if along the lines of an Open-World Action game. It has far more in common from a design standpoint with Crackdown, Saints Row, Assassin's Creed, Arkham City, infamous, Prototype, and even the open-world Spider-Man games by Activision than it does Call of Duty.

  • ray12kray12k riverside, CAPosts: 447Member
    Originally posted by Dihoru
    Originally posted by ray12k
    Originally posted by Scalpless
    Originally posted by ray12k
    Originally posted by Scalpless

    GTA V isn't popular because of its violence. It's popular because it's probably the best open world shooter ever made, with a ton of variety, amazing (for this gen of consoles) graphics and great gameplay.

    Ah no, If the game had no violence I can with out a doubt tell you it would fail. Stop lying to yourself....

    If it had no violence it wouldn't have gameplay. It's a shooter. You shoot stuff. On the other hand, if GTA5 had normal shooter violence, it'd still sell like hotcakes.

    Originally posted by ray12k

    My point was that games with the 18+ rating are the ones selling like hot cakes.  COD AND BF4 are also 18+ and many more but the 3 above dominate the gaming industry. 

    MMORPGS have a lot of catching up....

    http://www.esrb.org/ratings/synopsis.jsp?Certificate=32552&Title=Call%20of%20Duty:%20Black%20Ops%20II

    http://www.esrb.org/ratings/synopsis.jsp?Certificate=32041

    http://www.esrb.org/ratings/synopsis.jsp?Certificate=31650

    COD: Black Ops 2, BF3 and GTA5 are all rated M by ESRB, which is 16+ and the standard rating for shooters. If they were R (18+) rated, many retailers would refuse to sell them in the US, which is the reason why ESRB ratings are important.

    COD and BF3 aren't particularly violent. They've got blood and some gore, but we had much more violent stuff in the 90s.

    Rated M is 17+... seems we both were wrong.

    http://www.refinedguy.com/2013/06/11/the-30-best-selling-video-games-of-all-time/#1

    Do please continue telling us how ultra violent games are the future and how they're the best sold evah.

    The OP needs a reality check because he/she seems to be living in a certain demographic and is unable to fathom that that demographic isn't that big (it isn't small mind you but nor is it the majority).

    http://www.businessinsider.com/here-are-the-top-10-highest-grossing-video-games-of-all-time-2012-6?op=1

    Looks like the money talks. But yeah keep down playing 1 billion in 3 days.... good on yah lol.

  • RaysheRayshe London, ONPosts: 1,284Member
    Originally posted by ray12k
    Originally posted by Dihoru
    Originally posted by ray12k
    Originally posted by Scalpless
    Originally posted by ray12k
    Originally posted by Scalpless

    GTA V isn't popular because of its violence. It's popular because it's probably the best open world shooter ever made, with a ton of variety, amazing (for this gen of consoles) graphics and great gameplay.

    Ah no, If the game had no violence I can with out a doubt tell you it would fail. Stop lying to yourself....

    If it had no violence it wouldn't have gameplay. It's a shooter. You shoot stuff. On the other hand, if GTA5 had normal shooter violence, it'd still sell like hotcakes.

    Originally posted by ray12k

    My point was that games with the 18+ rating are the ones selling like hot cakes.  COD AND BF4 are also 18+ and many more but the 3 above dominate the gaming industry. 

    MMORPGS have a lot of catching up....

    http://www.esrb.org/ratings/synopsis.jsp?Certificate=32552&Title=Call%20of%20Duty:%20Black%20Ops%20II

    http://www.esrb.org/ratings/synopsis.jsp?Certificate=32041

    http://www.esrb.org/ratings/synopsis.jsp?Certificate=31650

    COD: Black Ops 2, BF3 and GTA5 are all rated M by ESRB, which is 16+ and the standard rating for shooters. If they were R (18+) rated, many retailers would refuse to sell them in the US, which is the reason why ESRB ratings are important.

    COD and BF3 aren't particularly violent. They've got blood and some gore, but we had much more violent stuff in the 90s.

    Rated M is 17+... seems we both were wrong.

    http://www.refinedguy.com/2013/06/11/the-30-best-selling-video-games-of-all-time/#1

    Do please continue telling us how ultra violent games are the future and how they're the best sold evah.

    The OP needs a reality check because he/she seems to be living in a certain demographic and is unable to fathom that that demographic isn't that big (it isn't small mind you but nor is it the majority).

    http://www.businessinsider.com/here-are-the-top-10-highest-grossing-video-games-of-all-time-2012-6?op=1

    Looks like the money talks. But yeah keep down playing 1 billion in 3 days.... good on yah lol.

    Your playing that its the violence in video games thats causing this, Peronsally i think your wrong. Video game popularity has grown extremely quickly over the last few generations. more people are playing for longer in their lives. i would honestly say that today we have the most people playing videogames then ever before. Think of it, Gaming used to be comsitered a geek thing. Gaming used to be as socially nerdy as playing Table top stuff, Now every does it. more people are playing then ever before, and these people aren't putting the controllers down. usually people who have the money to shell out to games when they are released. factor in the new costs tied to special ediions and you can see where the 1 billion comes from.  

     

    Its not Ultra violence thats doing this, its simple popularity of the industry. And more people playing for longer.

    Because i can.
    I'm Hopeful For Every Game, Until the Fan Boys Attack My Games. Then the Knives Come Out.
    Logic every gamers worst enemy.

  • i_own_ui_own_u Posts: 312Member Uncommon
    League of Legends is not "Ultra Violent" and is the most popular game in the world right now. 
  • bonzoso21bonzoso21 Michigan, USPosts: 108Member Uncommon
    Sure, it's the biggest financial success in entertainment history, but it's NOT just because of the violence. Other publishers may try to tap into that market by trying to create their own game in the style of the GTA series, but they will likely fail because they don't have Rockstar. Rockstar makes great games. They take their time on them, they never flood the market with their stuff (i.e. Ubisoft and annual Assassin's Creed games), and Take-Two allows them to spend big on both development and marketing. People know that open-world action games by Rockstar San Diego are going to be great games. Shocking violence is definitely a big part of the series' history, and that may be why teens were so into the earliest games. But those teens are now in their 30s, and there's nothing wrong with them enjoying a great game with a ton of variety and content akin to anything you'd watch on HBO.
  • DihoruDihoru ConstantaPosts: 2,731Member
    Originally posted by ray12k
    Originally posted by Dihoru
    Originally posted by ray12k
    Originally posted by Scalpless
    Originally posted by ray12k
    Originally posted by Scalpless

    GTA V isn't popular because of its violence. It's popular because it's probably the best open world shooter ever made, with a ton of variety, amazing (for this gen of consoles) graphics and great gameplay.

    Ah no, If the game had no violence I can with out a doubt tell you it would fail. Stop lying to yourself....

    If it had no violence it wouldn't have gameplay. It's a shooter. You shoot stuff. On the other hand, if GTA5 had normal shooter violence, it'd still sell like hotcakes.

    Originally posted by ray12k

    My point was that games with the 18+ rating are the ones selling like hot cakes.  COD AND BF4 are also 18+ and many more but the 3 above dominate the gaming industry. 

    MMORPGS have a lot of catching up....

    http://www.esrb.org/ratings/synopsis.jsp?Certificate=32552&Title=Call%20of%20Duty:%20Black%20Ops%20II

    http://www.esrb.org/ratings/synopsis.jsp?Certificate=32041

    http://www.esrb.org/ratings/synopsis.jsp?Certificate=31650

    COD: Black Ops 2, BF3 and GTA5 are all rated M by ESRB, which is 16+ and the standard rating for shooters. If they were R (18+) rated, many retailers would refuse to sell them in the US, which is the reason why ESRB ratings are important.

    COD and BF3 aren't particularly violent. They've got blood and some gore, but we had much more violent stuff in the 90s.

    Rated M is 17+... seems we both were wrong.

    http://www.refinedguy.com/2013/06/11/the-30-best-selling-video-games-of-all-time/#1

    Do please continue telling us how ultra violent games are the future and how they're the best sold evah.

    The OP needs a reality check because he/she seems to be living in a certain demographic and is unable to fathom that that demographic isn't that big (it isn't small mind you but nor is it the majority).

    http://www.businessinsider.com/here-are-the-top-10-highest-grossing-video-games-of-all-time-2012-6?op=1

    Looks like the money talks. But yeah keep down playing 1 billion in 3 days.... good on yah lol.

    Avatar is the highest grossing movie of all times and even caused particularly interesting individuals to commit suicide, does that mean that Avatar-like movies are all that's left in the future? 4 years have proven otherwise.

    As for 1 billion in 3 days, yeah, it's also the most expensive game ever made and I am willing to bet it had the most expensive marketing campaign for a game ever as well. Time will tell if sales will keep up or if its main demographic (around 25-30 million people, if previous series game sales are to be believed) has shrunk. If everything holds and their marketing was spot on then the game will hit about 2.5-3 bil USD if everyone rushes to buy the game at full price. Pound for pound it looks good but that's under ideal conditions, my guess is the game will make a good profit but sales will taper off in about 2-3 weeks as saturation is reached amongst die hard fans and casual fans and then you'll see some spurts during sales. 30 million copies would be allot if it sells that much in the end but it's still not enough to make your point ^^ as both a italian plumber by the name of Mario ( over 10 million more copies sold on the first super marios game) and Wii sports ( over 80 million copies) beat it hands down.

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  • GorweGorwe Ald'RuhnPosts: 2,474Member Uncommon
    Violence in games! Yay! I've got just the thing for you:

    Go to the GameTrailers and watch the latest episode of Marcus(the Annoyed Gamer). He was just talking about the GTA V and m rating(18+) and how it should've been Ao rating(adult only, 21+). And the effects of that and dimwit parent's buying GTA for their eight/nine year old child's birthday lol.

    Just go watch it. You won't be sorry!

    (This is my contribution to this discussion)
  • ray12kray12k riverside, CAPosts: 447Member
    Originally posted by i_own_u
    League of Legends is not "Ultra Violent" and is the most popular game in the world right now. 

    http://finance.yahoo.com/news/2013-s-best-selling-video-games--so-far-121312729.html

    Its not.

     

    Originally posted by bonzoso21
    Sure, it's the biggest financial success in entertainment history, but it's NOT just because of the violence. Other publishers may try to tap into that market by trying to create their own game in the style of the GTA series, but they will likely fail because they don't have Rockstar. Rockstar makes great games. They take their time on them, they never flood the market with their stuff (i.e. Ubisoft and annual Assassin's Creed games), and Take-Two allows them to spend big on both development and marketing. People know that open-world action games by Rockstar San Diego are going to be great games. Shocking violence is definitely a big part of the series' history, and that may be why teens were so into the earliest games. But those teens are now in their 30s, and there's nothing wrong with them enjoying a great game with a ton of variety and content akin to anything you'd watch on HBO.

     

    I agree on the point that the game allows freedom but I do disagree on that people play only for the open world ect. You play the game as a criminal, You kill innocent people. Blow up cop cars ect. You are right on the story and flow and how they created their world, its a quality game.

    I mean If I had a kid I wouldnt let him play this game would you? Unless he was a teenager that is. 

    Yes, I also agree its a just a game, I guess the post was to reinforce that realistic non-pg gaming is on a rise.  IMO I feel its a good thing, It will pull more adults into gaming.

     

  • i_own_ui_own_u Posts: 312Member Uncommon

    I said "most popular" not highest grossing. 

     

    EDIT: And I highly doubt Tomb Raider made more money than League of Legends did this year. 

  • niceguy3978niceguy3978 Gainesville, FLPosts: 2,000Member
    Originally posted by ray12k
    Originally posted by i_own_u
    League of Legends is not "Ultra Violent" and is the most popular game in the world right now. 

    http://finance.yahoo.com/news/2013-s-best-selling-video-games--so-far-121312729.html

    Its not.

     

    Originally posted by bonzoso21
    Sure, it's the biggest financial success in entertainment history, but it's NOT just because of the violence. Other publishers may try to tap into that market by trying to create their own game in the style of the GTA series, but they will likely fail because they don't have Rockstar. Rockstar makes great games. They take their time on them, they never flood the market with their stuff (i.e. Ubisoft and annual Assassin's Creed games), and Take-Two allows them to spend big on both development and marketing. People know that open-world action games by Rockstar San Diego are going to be great games. Shocking violence is definitely a big part of the series' history, and that may be why teens were so into the earliest games. But those teens are now in their 30s, and there's nothing wrong with them enjoying a great game with a ton of variety and content akin to anything you'd watch on HBO.

     

    I agree on the point that the game allows freedom but I do disagree on that people play only for the open world ect. You play the game as a criminal, You kill innocent people. Blow up cop cars ect. You are right on the story and flow and how they created their world, its a quality game.

    I mean If I had a kid I wouldnt let him play this game would you? Unless he was a teenager that is. 

    Yes, I also agree its a just a game, I guess the post was to reinforce that realistic non-pg gaming is on a rise.  IMO I feel its a good thing, It will pull more adults into gaming.

     

    The median age for a player of video games is in the upper 20s, I'm not sure how much more adult you want it to get?

  • WhiteLanternWhiteLantern Nevada, MOPosts: 2,732Member Common
    Originally posted by maplestone
    Originally posted by AlBQuirky

     


    Originally posted by maplestone
    I'm suffering a generation/culture gap on that franchise.  It's a genre that just doesn't appeal to me in the slightest.  But it looks like it's the next generation's version of high fantasy.

    You and me both!

     

    Would you like to pull up a rocking chair and yell at the young kids with me?

    I'm not grumpy enough for rocking chairs.  I want to be an Obi-wan.

     

    At least you don't want to be an Uncle Owen!

     

    Ah ha ha ha ha ha.......

     

     

    Ahem. Sorry, had to.

    I want a mmorpg where people have gone through misery, have gone through school stuff and actually have had sex even. -sagil

  • DihoruDihoru ConstantaPosts: 2,731Member
    Originally posted by WhiteLantern
    Originally posted by maplestone
    Originally posted by AlBQuirky

     


    Originally posted by maplestone
    I'm suffering a generation/culture gap on that franchise.  It's a genre that just doesn't appeal to me in the slightest.  But it looks like it's the next generation's version of high fantasy.

    You and me both!

     

    Would you like to pull up a rocking chair and yell at the young kids with me?

    I'm not grumpy enough for rocking chairs.  I want to be an Obi-wan.

     

    At least you don't want to be an Uncle Owen!

     

    Ah ha ha ha ha ha.......

     

     

    Ahem. Sorry, had to.

    -gets promethium flamer out- Want to be Owen old man? <.<

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  • ray12kray12k riverside, CAPosts: 447Member
    Originally posted by Dihoru
    Originally posted by ray12k
    Originally posted by Dihoru
    Originally posted by ray12k
    Originally posted by Scalpless
    Originally posted by ray12k
    Originally posted by Scalpless

    GTA V isn't popular because of its violence. It's popular because it's probably the best open world shooter ever made, with a ton of variety, amazing (for this gen of consoles) graphics and great gameplay.

    Ah no, If the game had no violence I can with out a doubt tell you it would fail. Stop lying to yourself....

    If it had no violence it wouldn't have gameplay. It's a shooter. You shoot stuff. On the other hand, if GTA5 had normal shooter violence, it'd still sell like hotcakes.

    Originally posted by ray12k

    My point was that games with the 18+ rating are the ones selling like hot cakes.  COD AND BF4 are also 18+ and many more but the 3 above dominate the gaming industry. 

    MMORPGS have a lot of catching up....

    http://www.esrb.org/ratings/synopsis.jsp?Certificate=32552&Title=Call%20of%20Duty:%20Black%20Ops%20II

    http://www.esrb.org/ratings/synopsis.jsp?Certificate=32041

    http://www.esrb.org/ratings/synopsis.jsp?Certificate=31650

    COD: Black Ops 2, BF3 and GTA5 are all rated M by ESRB, which is 16+ and the standard rating for shooters. If they were R (18+) rated, many retailers would refuse to sell them in the US, which is the reason why ESRB ratings are important.

    COD and BF3 aren't particularly violent. They've got blood and some gore, but we had much more violent stuff in the 90s.

    Rated M is 17+... seems we both were wrong.

    http://www.refinedguy.com/2013/06/11/the-30-best-selling-video-games-of-all-time/#1

    Do please continue telling us how ultra violent games are the future and how they're the best sold evah.

    The OP needs a reality check because he/she seems to be living in a certain demographic and is unable to fathom that that demographic isn't that big (it isn't small mind you but nor is it the majority).

    http://www.businessinsider.com/here-are-the-top-10-highest-grossing-video-games-of-all-time-2012-6?op=1

    Looks like the money talks. But yeah keep down playing 1 billion in 3 days.... good on yah lol.

    Avatar is the highest grossing movie of all times and even caused particularly interesting individuals to commit suicide, does that mean that Avatar-like movies are all that's left in the future? 4 years have proven otherwise.

    As for 1 billion in 3 days, yeah, it's also the most expensive game ever made and I am willing to bet it had the most expensive marketing campaign for a game ever as well. Time will tell if sales will keep up or if its main demographic (around 25-30 million people, if previous series game sales are to be believed) has shrunk. If everything holds and their marketing was spot on then the game will hit about 2.5-3 bil USD if everyone rushes to buy the game at full price. Pound for pound it looks good but that's under ideal conditions, my guess is the game will make a good profit but sales will taper off in about 2-3 weeks as saturation is reached amongst die hard fans and casual fans and then you'll see some spurts during sales. 30 million copies would be allot if it sells that much in the end but it's still not enough to make your point ^^ as both a italian plumber by the name of Mario ( over 10 million more copies sold on the first super marios game) and Wii sports ( over 80 million copies) beat it hands down.

    mario cart (2008) being the highest grossing nintendo game  to date sales has made 1.4 million.  GTA 5 in 3 days over a billion.... Not to mention the game cost 250 mill. even with  marketing it already made a profit. 

    http://finance.yahoo.com/news/2013-s-best-selling-video-games--so-far-121312729.html

    Its a trend in gaming like it or not numbers are number.

    And yes the top movies released since have had avatar quality graphics. 

    http://boxofficemojo.com/alltime/world/

     

    But hey im not here to argue just stating the trend I have seen.

  • drtack1drtack1 jacksonville, FLPosts: 253Member
    I cannot wait til it hits the PC!!!!
  • RaysheRayshe London, ONPosts: 1,284Member
    Originally posted by ray12k
    Originally posted by i_own_u
    League of Legends is not "Ultra Violent" and is the most popular game in the world right now. 

    http://finance.yahoo.com/news/2013-s-best-selling-video-games--so-far-121312729.html

    Its not.

     

    Originally posted by bonzoso21
    Sure, it's the biggest financial success in entertainment history, but it's NOT just because of the violence. Other publishers may try to tap into that market by trying to create their own game in the style of the GTA series, but they will likely fail because they don't have Rockstar. Rockstar makes great games. They take their time on them, they never flood the market with their stuff (i.e. Ubisoft and annual Assassin's Creed games), and Take-Two allows them to spend big on both development and marketing. People know that open-world action games by Rockstar San Diego are going to be great games. Shocking violence is definitely a big part of the series' history, and that may be why teens were so into the earliest games. But those teens are now in their 30s, and there's nothing wrong with them enjoying a great game with a ton of variety and content akin to anything you'd watch on HBO.

     

    I agree on the point that the game allows freedom but I do disagree on that people play only for the open world ect. You play the game as a criminal, You kill innocent people. Blow up cop cars ect. You are right on the story and flow and how they created their world, its a quality game.

    I mean If I had a kid I wouldnt let him play this game would you? Unless he was a teenager that is. 

    Yes, I also agree its a just a game, I guess the post was to reinforce that realistic non-pg gaming is on a rise.  IMO I feel its a good thing, It will pull more adults into gaming.

     

    Sept that there is no one to pull, in the current enviroment. Most Kids that play games, turn into Adults that play games. as i said in my brick above. More people are playing games than ever before. most of them adults, kids arent reaching a certian age and putting down the controlers anymore.

    Because i can.
    I'm Hopeful For Every Game, Until the Fan Boys Attack My Games. Then the Knives Come Out.
    Logic every gamers worst enemy.

  • DihoruDihoru ConstantaPosts: 2,731Member
    Originally posted by ray12k
    Originally posted by Dihoru
    Originally posted by ray12k
    Originally posted by Dihoru
    Originally posted by ray12k
    Originally posted by Scalpless
    Originally posted by ray12k
    Originally posted by Scalpless

    GTA V isn't popular because of its violence. It's popular because it's probably the best open world shooter ever made, with a ton of variety, amazing (for this gen of consoles) graphics and great gameplay.

    Ah no, If the game had no violence I can with out a doubt tell you it would fail. Stop lying to yourself....

    If it had no violence it wouldn't have gameplay. It's a shooter. You shoot stuff. On the other hand, if GTA5 had normal shooter violence, it'd still sell like hotcakes.

    Originally posted by ray12k

    My point was that games with the 18+ rating are the ones selling like hot cakes.  COD AND BF4 are also 18+ and many more but the 3 above dominate the gaming industry. 

    MMORPGS have a lot of catching up....

    http://www.esrb.org/ratings/synopsis.jsp?Certificate=32552&Title=Call%20of%20Duty:%20Black%20Ops%20II

    http://www.esrb.org/ratings/synopsis.jsp?Certificate=32041

    http://www.esrb.org/ratings/synopsis.jsp?Certificate=31650

    COD: Black Ops 2, BF3 and GTA5 are all rated M by ESRB, which is 16+ and the standard rating for shooters. If they were R (18+) rated, many retailers would refuse to sell them in the US, which is the reason why ESRB ratings are important.

    COD and BF3 aren't particularly violent. They've got blood and some gore, but we had much more violent stuff in the 90s.

    Rated M is 17+... seems we both were wrong.

    http://www.refinedguy.com/2013/06/11/the-30-best-selling-video-games-of-all-time/#1

    Do please continue telling us how ultra violent games are the future and how they're the best sold evah.

    The OP needs a reality check because he/she seems to be living in a certain demographic and is unable to fathom that that demographic isn't that big (it isn't small mind you but nor is it the majority).

    http://www.businessinsider.com/here-are-the-top-10-highest-grossing-video-games-of-all-time-2012-6?op=1

    Looks like the money talks. But yeah keep down playing 1 billion in 3 days.... good on yah lol.

    Avatar is the highest grossing movie of all times and even caused particularly interesting individuals to commit suicide, does that mean that Avatar-like movies are all that's left in the future? 4 years have proven otherwise.

    As for 1 billion in 3 days, yeah, it's also the most expensive game ever made and I am willing to bet it had the most expensive marketing campaign for a game ever as well. Time will tell if sales will keep up or if its main demographic (around 25-30 million people, if previous series game sales are to be believed) has shrunk. If everything holds and their marketing was spot on then the game will hit about 2.5-3 bil USD if everyone rushes to buy the game at full price. Pound for pound it looks good but that's under ideal conditions, my guess is the game will make a good profit but sales will taper off in about 2-3 weeks as saturation is reached amongst die hard fans and casual fans and then you'll see some spurts during sales. 30 million copies would be allot if it sells that much in the end but it's still not enough to make your point ^^ as both a italian plumber by the name of Mario ( over 10 million more copies sold on the first super marios game) and Wii sports ( over 80 million copies) beat it hands down.

    mario cart (2008) being the highest grossing nintendo game  to date sales has made 1.4 million.  GTA 5 in 3 days over a billion.... Not to mention the game cost 250 mill. even with  marketing it already made a profit. 

    http://finance.yahoo.com/news/2013-s-best-selling-video-games--so-far-121312729.html

    Its a trend in gaming like it or not numbers are number.

    And yes the top movies released since have had avatar quality graphics. 

    http://boxofficemojo.com/alltime/world/

     

    But hey im not here to argue just stating the trend I have seen.

    Nope, merely twisting words to make your own opinion valid. GTA V is the fastest selling game to date, correct, that speaks to awareness of the title, marketing behind it, not popularity by definition though GTA is a popular series it is still not as popular as some of the classics and some of the non-violent casual games of this era and unlike those GTA 5's broad appeal will be gone within a year and considering the, probable, lack of modding support it won't even have Skyrim's longevity in the news.

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  • Swedish_ChefSwedish_Chef of heroes, MSPosts: 213Member

    I find it amusing that, as games in general become more violent, movies are for the most part heading in the exact opposite direction. There are very few 'hard R' action films being made anymore, and the violent films of yesteryear are being remade into PG-13 CGI kiddie crap (see Robocrap... err, cop 2014).

    Oh, and I'm going to plug both Dredd and The Raid: Redemption. Both are fantastic examples of how proper action films should be done, and are quite deserving of a place on any action fan's DVD / Blu-ray shelf.

    Anyway, please continue.

     

     

  • TealaTeala SomewherePosts: 7,430Member Uncommon
    Originally posted by maplestone
    I'm suffering a generation/culture gap on that franchise.  It's a genre that just doesn't appeal to me in the slightest.  But it looks like it's the next generation's version of high fantasy.

    I don't get that whole franchise.   Doesn't appeal to me in the least.   The only reason I think people like it is because they can just do crazy stuff in it. 

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  • FinalFikusFinalFikus Chicago, ILPosts: 906Member

    Another score for the open world game.

    The world sim with the game built around it just keeps on having success after success.

    Not bad for gameplay made for a tiny audience.

    "If the Damned gave you a roadmap, then you'd know just where to go"

  • FinalFikusFinalFikus Chicago, ILPosts: 906Member
    Originally posted by Teala
    Originally posted by maplestone
    I'm suffering a generation/culture gap on that franchise.  It's a genre that just doesn't appeal to me in the slightest.  But it looks like it's the next generation's version of high fantasy.

    I don't get that whole franchise.   Doesn't appeal to me in the least.   The only reason I think people like it is because they can just do crazy stuff in it. 

    It was great back when it was multiplayer. I gave up on it when they started locking you out of parts of the city until you completed the content. But back in the day we had some fun with this game.

    "If the Damned gave you a roadmap, then you'd know just where to go"

  • QuirhidQuirhid TamperePosts: 5,969Member Common
    Originally posted by ray12k
     

    [...] GTA 5 in 3 days over a billion.... Not to mention the game cost 250 mill. even with  marketing it already made a profit.

    [...]

    Wat?

    I skate to where the puck is going to be, not where it has been -Wayne Gretzky

  • ScalplessScalpless SnowballvillePosts: 1,396Member Uncommon
    Originally posted by ray12k

    mario cart (2008) being the highest grossing nintendo game  to date sales has made 1.4 million.  GTA 5 in 3 days over a billion.... Not to mention the game cost 250 mill. even with  marketing it already made a profit. 

    http://finance.yahoo.com/news/2013-s-best-selling-video-games--so-far-121312729.html

    Its a trend in gaming like it or not numbers are number.

    And yes the top movies released since have had avatar quality graphics. 

    http://boxofficemojo.com/alltime/world/

     

    But hey im not here to argue just stating the trend I have seen.

    One game doesn't make a trend.

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