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is it like TSW bad?
i never played TSW but it is really slow combat in ff xiv. the global cool down is 2.5 secs. so a fast attacking class like the monk just not fun to play but 2nd toon was a glad and it wasnt as bad with the 2h wep that is ment to be slow.
Originally posted by funcon this Final Fantasy game has combat like WoW. Almost 10 year old combat in 2013.
This style combat is older than 10 years
Criticizing a Final Fantasy game for slow combat is like bashing a Ferrari for being too fast.
Guys it feels like a Final Fantasy MMO.
Well, it's a Final Fantasy game and teh combat is modeled after Final Fantasy games as to be expected. If you don't like Final Fantasy game combat then you probably won't like this combat because that is what they were going for. Every Final Fantasy numbered game has "turn" based combat, if it doesn't they don't give it a number.
And it nothing like TSW combat, nor does the 2.5 second cooldown stay 2.5 seconds or even apply to all abilities. Something that also offsets the cooldown is that abilities have pretty long cast times compared to instant hitting abilities of other MMOs, this is because interrupts are a big part of the combat as likely will be a big part of PvP.
It depends on what class you are. My caster felt okay because the animations took up most of the 2.5 cooldown. My fighter felt slow and clunky.
Another major turn off for me was my first fights involved killing squirrels, mushrooms, and ladybugs.... yes, ladybugs.
I'm sure the game is great fun for many people, but I'm not impressed and not having much fun. Still waiting on the elusive MMO I can comfortably call home.
It's not bad at all.
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Originally posted by nerovipus32 The funny thing about ff14 combat is it's nothing like final fantasy combat
right because final fantasy 1 through 13 all used the same exact combat system. /sarcasm
How is it not? It's an MMO version of turn based combat. Nearly Identical to FF12 or 11 and even resembling 13 or any other FF that had ATB combat. The global cool down is trying to accomplish this.
It was pretty dry with a single class up to L20 or so.
Once I unlocked cross class abilities and some jobs, it gets a whole lot more involved, even with the longer GCD.
Originally posted by Torcip One thing I would like to add is that with the GCD, it because more about strategic choice rather than mashing the keys fast enough to get off all your abilities. Those games are fun too for their own reasons, but when you can die because you made a poor choice in what ability you used can do wonders for MMOs.
I was going to say it's more strategic, and planning your choices than other mmo's where you just bash as many keys as you can.
It gets faster the more you level. Just like any game, if you only play to level 20 then you don't know what you're talking about. On my paladin I'm hitting buttons faster and more often then any other game I've played in awhile...
Also, the longer GCD is so you actually think and not mash buttons like other games. 2.5 seconds pressing the wrong button could be the difference between a wipe and victory!
Originally posted by Mtibbs1989 Originally posted by funcon this Final Fantasy game has combat like WoW. Almost 10 year old combat in 2013.
As is the "new" action combat. These threads/posts at least keep the forums lively.
Originally posted by Torcip Originally posted by nerovipus32 The funny thing about ff14 combat is it's nothing like final fantasy combat
There is a difference between turn based combat and ATB, but you are right, this is just the direction in which FF was going all the time. It was a classical turn based combat up until V or VI (don't remember), after that it was ATB. So if someone played only until then, he might find new system not fitting.
The thing is, ATB was awesome back in the 2D, but the more realistic the game becomes, the more ridiculous the whole half turn half action looks like. Was fine when a sprite was static and attacked when you commanded it too, but now a fully animated 3d model just standing in front of monster waiting together with it might be a bit immersion breaking for players new to the IP.
I don't remember WOW having 2.5 GC?
It comes down to this. If you like mashing buttons fast and being able to change tactics instantly in real time without thinking then you will be disappointed. If on the other hand you like to have time to make tactical choices based on visual cues on the screen and like turn based strategy gaming, you will love this combat compared to the "action combat" trending everywhere else.
FFXIV has lots of faults, but the combat system is not one of them imo.
Men do not stop playing because they grow old. They grow old because they stop playing. -- Oliver Wendell Holmes
Remember when you could stand still in an MMO and press 1 2 3 4 ... 4 3 2 1..yep that's basically combat in FFXIV.
Its classic mmo style combat. Pretty boring with lots of sparkles. But not horrible bad.