Absolutely no contest: The Rathe Council in EQ1. Anyone who did this raid when it was current content knows what I'm talking about.
Everything else is a distant battle for second.
This.
+1.
I've raided in many major MMO's since 1999 and only Everquest and vanilla-BC Warcraft can honesly claim to be kings of epic raiding. There are a few honorable mentions I can think of... but in the end, Everquest and Warcraft are the undisputed kings of fun and epic and challenging and interesting raiding.
Rathe Council was very challenging. I'd also add Tunare (especially back in the days before voice comm), some of the NTOV dragon encounters and many encounters in Ssraeshza Temple. I thought PoP god's were really fun too... Mithaniel Marr was pretty fun I remember. And the Zek fights.
Warcraft is second in epicness only because of the crutch called Deadly Boss Mods. Still, Blizzard was able to craft very challenging and epic encounters despite DBM. Vanilla WoW, BC, and WoTLK had some very interesting raid encounters. Loved Naxx, loved Black Temple, loved Ulduar. I quit after the shitstorm called Cataclysm ended so i'm not familiar with anything past that.
I currently dont play any MMOs, But I am interested in seeing how easymode EQNext will end up being ... sad face.
His taunts about: "I can read your mind!" and "So you like to play Castlevania!" were mindbending to me and the fight was permanently archived in my head when I finally figured out the trick to beating him.
Online: Twin Emperors -Temple of Ahn'Qiraj (WoW)
We wiped so many times on these two bastards it wasn't even funny. The mechanics for switching and getting them to trade places was a beast! So glad when we did beat them....but never consistently.
"Small minds talk about people, average minds talk about events, great minds talk about ideas."
Only one that sticks out to me at this hour was back in 2006 running a 5/10 plex with a rag tag fleet (1 ferox, 1 raven, 2 frigates, 1 interceptor and me in a kestrel.... it didn't go well but it was a blast none the less XD we pulled several million isk, then, meta items without popping the Mother).
The most epic boss fight was probably against Lethon, one of the corrupted green dragon world bosses in vanilla WoW. No one had really done those bosses on our server and we had a ton of onlookers and got lots of congratulations and generally E-peen boosts when we killed it
Hardest was probably Razorgore the Untamed (true difficulty) and afterwards Vaelastrasz (gear check) in vanilla WoW's Blackwing Lair. I remember our raid leader jokingly putting up a "strategy" for razorgore after a few weeks, it consisted of a paint image full of garbled lines...
Didn't help that we were doing it in the most crappy gear imaginable combined with a few things from MC at the time.
Feel free to use my referral link for SW:TOR if you want to test out the game. You'll get some special unlocks!
2007/ King Maulgar, the boss before Gruul first months after TBC.
4 different tanks and 4 different healer roles
Rest DPS. If one dude made one mistake it was game over.
I still remember the many months we wanted to get in with several groups and some "briefings" took 2 hours... after which there was ALWAYS a guy saying "would you repeat the briefing one more time please".
My role was to heal the Mage Tank. Awesome times...
Nexona in Veeshan's Peak in Everquest 2's expansion Rise of Kunark. She was known as the "guild ruiner" because of the frustration and amount of time people spent on her. People pulled her for over a month every day, without success.
Just can give props to the guy on page 1 posting Tarasque from AO. One of the first real bosses I've seen in that game and not the hard itself, just tank&spank. But the fact that it's a boss with (up until today!) damn good gear combined with sitting in the middle of a PvP dungeon is pure genius. And for AO, there is no such thing as divided armor for PvE and PvP.
What was also a lot of fun back then before Shadowlands was Mercs/ACE Camp. Again not that hard when it comes to mechanics, but a great experience when it was a server wide raid, because a single faction wasn't able to down it on their own. 200+ people trying to coordinate just to get this damn Ian Warr down, including heal chains and whatnot...
Sapphiron from Naxx in WoW was one of the most epic,hardest bosses I have ever done that I can think of. I have done that fight tons of times and it really is a cakewalk but when we were progressing through Naxx back in WOTLK it was one of my favorite times at how long it took us to town that boss xD.
Those are some of the hardest I've beaten, there are some harder ones I never even got to fight - Yael, PIrate Kings.
The new EQ2 duo zones are also some of the hardest things I've ever done in a game, especially Forge and AA.
The amount of great encounters of various difficulty (there is always something harder!) is one of the main things that keeps playing EQ2 and raiding every weekend.
"Id rather work on something with great potential than on fulfilling a promise of mediocrity."
- Raph Koster
Tried: AO,EQ,EQ2,DAoC,SWG,AA,SB,HZ,CoX,PS,GA,TR,IV,GnH,EVE, PP,DnL,WAR,MxO,SWG,FE,VG,AoC,DDO,LoTRO,Rift,TOR,Aion,Tera,TSW,GW2,DCUO,CO,STO Favourites: AO,SWG,EVE,TR,LoTRO,TSW,EQ2, Firefall Currently Playing: ESO
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+1.
I've raided in many major MMO's since 1999 and only Everquest and vanilla-BC Warcraft can honesly claim to be kings of epic raiding. There are a few honorable mentions I can think of... but in the end, Everquest and Warcraft are the undisputed kings of fun and epic and challenging and interesting raiding.
Rathe Council was very challenging. I'd also add Tunare (especially back in the days before voice comm), some of the NTOV dragon encounters and many encounters in Ssraeshza Temple. I thought PoP god's were really fun too... Mithaniel Marr was pretty fun I remember. And the Zek fights.
Warcraft is second in epicness only because of the crutch called Deadly Boss Mods. Still, Blizzard was able to craft very challenging and epic encounters despite DBM. Vanilla WoW, BC, and WoTLK had some very interesting raid encounters. Loved Naxx, loved Black Temple, loved Ulduar. I quit after the shitstorm called Cataclysm ended so i'm not familiar with anything past that.
I currently dont play any MMOs, But I am interested in seeing how easymode EQNext will end up being ... sad face.
pf, you guys should try to take down a titan in eve
all your fights are minor against that
"believe me, mike.. i calculated the odds of this working against the odds that i was doing something incredibly stupid and i did it anyway!"
Mimiron 25-man hard mode for sure. Ulduar tier 8 in WoW.
Shit was the hardest thing I've ever done in a video game.
Yogg no lights was probably harder, but it's a lot less chaotic.
For me there are 2 categories:
Offline: Pycho Mantis Metal Gear Solid (PS)
His taunts about: "I can read your mind!" and "So you like to play Castlevania!" were mindbending to me and the fight was permanently archived in my head when I finally figured out the trick to beating him.
Online: Twin Emperors -Temple of Ahn'Qiraj (WoW)
We wiped so many times on these two bastards it wasn't even funny. The mechanics for switching and getting them to trade places was a beast! So glad when we did beat them....but never consistently.
"Small minds talk about people, average minds talk about events, great minds talk about ideas."
The most epic boss fight was probably against Lethon, one of the corrupted green dragon world bosses in vanilla WoW. No one had really done those bosses on our server and we had a ton of onlookers and got lots of congratulations and generally E-peen boosts when we killed it
Hardest was probably Razorgore the Untamed (true difficulty) and afterwards Vaelastrasz (gear check) in vanilla WoW's Blackwing Lair. I remember our raid leader jokingly putting up a "strategy" for razorgore after a few weeks, it consisted of a paint image full of garbled lines...
Didn't help that we were doing it in the most crappy gear imaginable combined with a few things from MC at the time.
Feel free to use my referral link for SW:TOR if you want to test out the game. You'll get some special unlocks!
2007/ King Maulgar, the boss before Gruul first months after TBC.
4 different tanks and 4 different healer roles
Rest DPS. If one dude made one mistake it was game over.
I still remember the many months we wanted to get in with several groups and some "briefings" took 2 hours... after which there was ALWAYS a guy saying "would you repeat the briefing one more time please".
My role was to heal the Mage Tank. Awesome times...
Killing dragons is my shit
^^ This x 10.
Just can give props to the guy on page 1 posting Tarasque from AO. One of the first real bosses I've seen in that game and not the hard itself, just tank&spank. But the fact that it's a boss with (up until today!) damn good gear combined with sitting in the middle of a PvP dungeon is pure genius. And for AO, there is no such thing as divided armor for PvE and PvP.
What was also a lot of fun back then before Shadowlands was Mercs/ACE Camp. Again not that hard when it comes to mechanics, but a great experience when it was a server wide raid, because a single faction wasn't able to down it on their own. 200+ people trying to coordinate just to get this damn Ian Warr down, including heal chains and whatnot...
Sapphiron from Naxx in WoW was one of the most epic,hardest bosses I have ever done that I can think of. I have done that fight tons of times and it really is a cakewalk but when we were progressing through Naxx back in WOTLK it was one of my favorite times at how long it took us to town that boss xD.
Lots of really hard (and fun) encounters in EQ2.
Commanders in Plane of War
Roehn Theer
Drinal
Chel'Drak
Trakanon
Those are some of the hardest I've beaten, there are some harder ones I never even got to fight - Yael, PIrate Kings.
The new EQ2 duo zones are also some of the hardest things I've ever done in a game, especially Forge and AA.
The amount of great encounters of various difficulty (there is always something harder!) is one of the main things that keeps playing EQ2 and raiding every weekend.
"Id rather work on something with great potential than on fulfilling a promise of mediocrity."
- Raph Koster
Tried: AO,EQ,EQ2,DAoC,SWG,AA,SB,HZ,CoX,PS,GA,TR,IV,GnH,EVE, PP,DnL,WAR,MxO,SWG,FE,VG,AoC,DDO,LoTRO,Rift,TOR,Aion,Tera,TSW,GW2,DCUO,CO,STO
Favourites: AO,SWG,EVE,TR,LoTRO,TSW,EQ2, Firefall
Currently Playing: ESO