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No cash shop for ESO

artemisentr4artemisentr4 fresno, CAPosts: 1,431Member Uncommon

Not official, but from someone who is there and looks to be having a lot of fun.

http://tamrielfoundry.com/2013/08/pax-prime-preview/comment-page-3/#comments

 

Hey everyone! I have to apologize, I’m a bit too intoxicated and exhausted to do a complete PAX day 1 recap tonight, BUT I did want to at least drop the TF community a nice nugget of information that we learned today.

The whole “cash shop” aspect of the ESO business model was just a misinterpretation / translation error / slip of the tongue. ESO does not have a cash shop in addition to it’s subscription fee. Hope this alleviates some of the concerns the community had expressed since that emerged at Gamescon!

I promise a more in-depth rundown later this weekend when I have time + sobriety.

“How many people long for that "past, simpler, and better world," I wonder, without ever recognizing the truth that perhaps it was they who were simpler and better, and not the world about them?”
R.A.Salvatore

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  • RocknissRockniss Youngstown, OHPosts: 1,034Member
    Thank goodness can you imagine es with an invasive cash shop?
  • IselinIselin Vancouver, BCPosts: 5,606Member Uncommon
    Damn! Now where am I going to get my Queen Ayrenn T-shirt? image
  • DistopiaDistopia Baltimore, MDPosts: 16,899Member Uncommon
     I thought from the start that announcement contradicted many a quote from Matt and Co.

    For every minute you are angry , you lose 60 seconds of happiness."-Emerson

    It is a sign of a defeated man, to attack at ones character in the face of logic and reason- Me

  • Ramonski7Ramonski7 Aurora, ILPosts: 2,656Member Uncommon
    Yeah I think cash shop to some people = paid services.

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    "Small minds talk about people, average minds talk about events, great minds talk about ideas."

  • Squeak69Squeak69 Colorado Springs, COPosts: 956Member

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    WOOOT

    F2P may be the way of the future, but ya know they dont make them like they used toimage
    Proper Grammer & spelling are extra, corrections will be LOL at.

  • udonudon Durham, NCPosts: 1,797Member Uncommon

    I wonder if FF XIV had anything to do with that?

    Now we just need Wildstar to relent and say how bad a idea a cash shop and sub is in a MMO.

  • AdalwulffAdalwulff Sacramento, CAPosts: 1,152Member

    Thanks for the info!

    I kinda knew they wouldn't have a CS, but it wasn't a deal breaker for me so I wasn't worried. At least now the negative threads about it can stop.

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  • nerovipus32nerovipus32 dublinPosts: 2,735Member
    My money is on them having a cash shop.
  • IselinIselin Vancouver, BCPosts: 5,606Member Uncommon
    Originally posted by nerovipus32
    My money is on them having a cash shop.

    And if it's burning a hole in your pocket, you can already spend it here:  http://store.bethsoft.com/ It has been selling ESO T's, posters and glasses for a while now.

    In a way you're right...but you're mostly wrong since "cash shop" is associated with in-game cash shops these days, and that ain't happening.

  • nerovipus32nerovipus32 dublinPosts: 2,735Member
    Originally posted by Iselin
    Originally posted by nerovipus32
    My money is on them having a cash shop.

    And if it's burning a hole in your pocket, you can already spend it here:  http://store.bethsoft.com/ It has been selling ESO T's, posters and glasses for a while now.

    In a way you're right...but you're mostly wrong since "cash shop" is associated with in-game cash shops these days, and that ain't happening.

    The game will have an in game cash shop.

  • DistopiaDistopia Baltimore, MDPosts: 16,899Member Uncommon
    Originally posted by nerovipus32

    The game will have an in game cash shop.

    You say so based on what?

    For every minute you are angry , you lose 60 seconds of happiness."-Emerson

    It is a sign of a defeated man, to attack at ones character in the face of logic and reason- Me

  • vmopedvmoped Athens, GAPosts: 1,708Member

    Interesting how the assumption there may be a cash shop, regardless of poor translation and contradictory statements attracted more attention than the official stance of no cash shop in game.  I suppose everyone likes to throw a person accused of murder under the bus with front page headlines, but rarely pay attention to the back page retraction...

    Cheers!

    MMO Vet since AOL Neverwinter Nights circa 1992. My MMO beat up your MMO. =S

  • nerovipus32nerovipus32 dublinPosts: 2,735Member
    Originally posted by Distopia
    Originally posted by nerovipus32

    The game will have an in game cash shop.

    You say so based on what?

    based on the last 6 years of seeing cash shops in mmo's.

  • AsboAsbo ManchesterPosts: 796Member Uncommon
    Originally posted by artemisentr4

    Not official, but from someone who is there and looks to be having a lot of fun.

    http://tamrielfoundry.com/2013/08/pax-prime-preview/comment-page-3/#comments

     

    Hey everyone! I have to apologize, I’m a bit too intoxicated and exhausted to do a complete PAX day 1 recap tonight, BUT I did want to at least drop the TF community a nice nugget of information that we learned today.

    The whole “cash shop” aspect of the ESO business model was just a misinterpretation / translation error / slip of the tongue. ESO does not have a cash shop in addition to it’s subscription fee. Hope this alleviates some of the concerns the community had expressed since that emerged at Gamescon!

    I promise a more in-depth rundown later this weekend when I have time + sobriety.

    Personally anyone who though it was having one never watched their interview and people are quick to jump on the band wagon and shoot off like some young teenager having his first jerk!!! I cannot remember how many I read saying I'm out of here...

    Just wish folks would do their research before they get carried away. Still lets hope that people start to calm down and look at the game for what it is. After trying it at gamescom I will be there from the off and I'm not bothered that these guys have no track record as 2100 queuing for 5 days and more turned away tells me there has to be something good about this game and I'll be there at the off.

     

    Bandit. 

    Asbo

  • GorweGorwe ZagrebPosts: 2,472Member Uncommon

    Now if only they dropped the subscription nonsense...

    A guy can hope, can't he?

    @ topic: VERY good news indeed. Now let's see them keep their promises.

  • DistopiaDistopia Baltimore, MDPosts: 16,899Member Uncommon
    Originally posted by nerovipus32
    Originally posted by Distopia
    Originally posted by nerovipus32

    The game will have an in game cash shop.

    You say so based on what?

    based on the last 6 years of seeing cash shops in mmo's.

    Not many P2P have gone that route outside of WOW TSW or AIon I'm aware of, the rest were simply P2P until the day they switched it up to F2P.

    For every minute you are angry , you lose 60 seconds of happiness."-Emerson

    It is a sign of a defeated man, to attack at ones character in the face of logic and reason- Me

  • baphametbaphamet omaha, NEPosts: 2,836Member Uncommon


    Originally posted by nerovipus32
    Originally posted by Distopia Originally posted by nerovipus32 The game will have an in game cash shop.
    You say so based on what?
    based on the last 6 years of seeing cash shops in mmo's.

    you see a lot of different things in mmo's, that doesn't mean they will all be in ESO.

    i don't see what the big deal is anyways as long as it doesn't give you an in game advantage in any way.

  • ShadanwolfShadanwolf Posts: 2,114Member Uncommon
    When the game launches I will see if it's in the game.
  • LoLifeLoLife LA, CAPosts: 174Member
    I think what being overlooked is the funding for console versions since PS4 & XB-one owner will be already paying monthly subs for PSN and XB-Live that's where the cash shop could come in
  • RexKushmanRexKushman lake como, NJPosts: 28Member Uncommon
    Originally posted by dustyhayes
    I think what being overlooked is the funding for console versions since PS4 & XB-one owner will be already paying monthly subs for PSN and XB-Live that's where the cash shop could come in

    You do not need a PS Plus membership to access MMO's on the PS 3 & 4.  

  • LoLifeLoLife LA, CAPosts: 174Member
    Originally posted by RexKushman
    Originally posted by dustyhayes
    I think what being overlooked is the funding for console versions since PS4 & XB-one owner will be already paying monthly subs for PSN and XB-Live that's where the cash shop could come in

    You do not need a PS Plus membership to access MMO's on the PS 3 & 4.  

    You sure because I was under the impression that PS + was required for PS4 online play due to the E3  announcement & Shuhei Yoshida's interview with Gamespot

  • SlyLoKSlyLoK Sugar Grove, VAPosts: 1,544Member Uncommon
    Originally posted by dustyhayes
    Originally posted by RexKushman
    Originally posted by dustyhayes
    I think what being overlooked is the funding for console versions since PS4 & XB-one owner will be already paying monthly subs for PSN and XB-Live that's where the cash shop could come in

    You do not need a PS Plus membership to access MMO's on the PS 3 & 4.  

    You sure because I was under the impression that PS + was required for PS4 online play due to the E3  announcement & Shuhei Yoshida's interview with Gamespot

    Games with a sub fee and f2p games will not need PS+.

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  • IselinIselin Vancouver, BCPosts: 5,606Member Uncommon
    Originally posted by SlyLoK
    Originally posted by dustyhayes
    Originally posted by RexKushman
    Originally posted by dustyhayes
    I think what being overlooked is the funding for console versions since PS4 & XB-one owner will be already paying monthly subs for PSN and XB-Live that's where the cash shop could come in

    You do not need a PS Plus membership to access MMO's on the PS 3 & 4.  

    You sure because I was under the impression that PS + was required for PS4 online play due to the E3  announcement & Shuhei Yoshida's interview with Gamespot

    Games with a sub fee and f2p games will not need PS+.

    It's not a sure thing, though they're trying: http://www.oxm.co.uk/61138/bethesda-is-pushing-to-let-you-play-elder-scrolls-online-on-xbox-one-without-xbox-gold/

     

  • SlyLoKSlyLoK Sugar Grove, VAPosts: 1,544Member Uncommon
    Originally posted by Iselin
    Originally posted by SlyLoK
    Originally posted by dustyhayes
    Originally posted by RexKushman
    Originally posted by dustyhayes
    I think what being overlooked is the funding for console versions since PS4 & XB-one owner will be already paying monthly subs for PSN and XB-Live that's where the cash shop could come in

    You do not need a PS Plus membership to access MMO's on the PS 3 & 4.  

    You sure because I was under the impression that PS + was required for PS4 online play due to the E3  announcement & Shuhei Yoshida's interview with Gamespot

    Games with a sub fee and f2p games will not need PS+.

    It's not a sure thing, though they're trying: http://www.oxm.co.uk/61138/bethesda-is-pushing-to-let-you-play-elder-scrolls-online-on-xbox-one-without-xbox-gold/

     

    No. I am referencing what Sony said at the PS4 reveal. They specifically said that games with a subscription will not need PS+ and F2P games will not require it either. They also mentioned that any game where Sony was not the ones providing the servers that the developer / publisher could bypass PS+ if they chose too.

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  • IselinIselin Vancouver, BCPosts: 5,606Member Uncommon
    Originally posted by SlyLoK
    Originally posted by Iselin
    Originally posted by SlyLoK
    Originally posted by dustyhayes
    Originally posted by RexKushman
    Originally posted by dustyhayes
    I think what being overlooked is the funding for console versions since PS4 & XB-one owner will be already paying monthly subs for PSN and XB-Live that's where the cash shop could come in

    You do not need a PS Plus membership to access MMO's on the PS 3 & 4.  

    You sure because I was under the impression that PS + was required for PS4 online play due to the E3  announcement & Shuhei Yoshida's interview with Gamespot

    Games with a sub fee and f2p games will not need PS+.

    It's not a sure thing, though they're trying: http://www.oxm.co.uk/61138/bethesda-is-pushing-to-let-you-play-elder-scrolls-online-on-xbox-one-without-xbox-gold/

     

    No. I am referencing what Sony said at the PS4 reveal. They specifically said that games with a subscription will not need PS+ and F2P games will not require it either. They also mentioned that any game where Sony was not the ones providing the servers that the developer / publisher could bypass PS+ if they chose too.

    Not how I remember it: http://kotaku.com/ps4-video-says-playstation-plus-is-mandatory-for-online-512482325

    You got a link that says the opposite?

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