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Is there an MMO that is serious

Mopar63Mopar63 Carbondale, ILPosts: 296Member

I have to tell you of late I find that MMOs are becoming, in general, more and more fluffy bunny in their style.  They seem to cater for the general feel good items and seldom if ever seem to take themselves seriously.

I am looking for a lore rich MMO that I serious about it's game world. One where you do not see disco pants and dancing pig companions. One that is lore strong and keeps any extra material lore strong as well.

Does such an MMO exist?

 

 

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  • NitthNitth AustraliaPosts: 3,684Member Uncommon


    Originally posted by Mopar63
    I have to tell you of late I find that MMOs are becoming, in general, more and more fluffy bunny in their style.  They seem to cater for the general feel good items and seldom if ever seem to take themselves seriously.

    I am looking for a lore rich MMO that I serious about it's game world. One where you do not see disco pants and dancing pig companions. One that is lore strong and keeps any extra material lore strong as well.

    Does such an MMO exist?

     

     


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  • wrekognizewrekognize salt lake city, UTPosts: 384Member
    Darkfall Unholy Wars is your game if you can deal with the FFA full loot PVP. The lore is created by the players as history progresses on the server, alliances are built and broken. Friends become enemies.  In this world, the enemies I am looking to destroy are real players, not some mob in a made up story by the developers. I do still enjoy the PVE also.
  • NaowutNaowut MusselkanaalPosts: 647Member Uncommon

    Age of Conan comes to mind. One of the better MMO's in general IMO. 

    Maybe even The Secret World? I don't have much experience with this one so not sure.

  • sudosudo Tel-AvivPosts: 697Member Uncommon

    I can only think of only one AAA mmo that cares about its lore enough to not add fluffy bunny pickachoo content:

    Lord of The Rings Online.

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  • marsmercermarsmercer Smyrna, SCPosts: 24Member Uncommon
    Warhammer Online, Vanguard, LoTRO, Darkfall Unholy Wars are a few that come to mind. People would argue their viability, but they still have a core of diehard subscribers.

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  • ariestearieste toronto, ONPosts: 3,308Member Common

    I have to agree with the folks above - EVE and LoTRO are the two that come to mind right away.  

     

     

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  • Cosmonaut79Cosmonaut79 Dixon, ILPosts: 175Member Common
    I've felt the same way, OP.  I am hoping that ESO will be a fairly serious MMO.  Some of the suggestions above like Vanguard are good, but I'm hoping ESO will be the next big MMO with a serious tone.
  • KyleranKyleran Tampa, FLPosts: 20,008Member Uncommon
    Agree with all of the above but even EVE steps out on rare occasion, as evidenced by the seasonal addition of "snowball" launchers.

    In my day MMORPG's were so hard we fought our way through dungeons in the snow, uphill both ways.
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  • IcewhiteIcewhite Elmhurst, ILPosts: 6,403Member
    Originally posted by Mopar63

    I have to tell you of late I find that MMOs are becoming, in general, more and more fluffy bunny in their style.  They seem to cater for the general feel good items and seldom if ever seem to take themselves seriously.

    I am looking for a lore rich MMO that I serious about it's game world. One where you do not see disco pants and dancing pig companions. One that is lore strong and keeps any extra material lore strong as well.

    Does such an MMO exist?

    Lore? Looking for a touch of roleplay from your RPG?

    You may be out of luck; it's gone out of style with modern designers.

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  • Jean-Luc_PicardJean-Luc_Picard La BarrePosts: 3,549Member Uncommon

    That's my major pet peeve against GW2. They have an awesome world, but they add silly stuff like plush backpacks.

    So you're in the mountains on a giant viking-like character, and suddenly some other viking runs past you with a damned plush backpack looking more ridiculous than what 5 years old girls have to go to school.

    I think games should have a setting to be able to filter out silly content like that on the graphic level. Want to use a plush backpack? Ok, but I'm not forced to see it and have it break my immersion.

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  • TorvalTorval Oregon CountryPosts: 7,222Member Uncommon

    There are a ton of games if you look for them.  Every games seems to have some sort of silliness often around holiday events, but most of these are very light on those fantasy elements that offend your sensitivities:

    Age of Conan

    EVE

    Lord of the Rings Online:  There are some silly and outlandish elements in the game but they are mostly seasonal / event related

    Ryzom

    Darkfall

    The Secret World:  There are some non-serious elements in cosmetic attire, but nothing that isn't lore appropriate for modern earth

    Star Trek Online: Again there are some outlandish elements in the game, but nothing really inappropriate for the IP

     

    There are a ton more if you just take the time to look for them.  Almost every game has some sort of silly, outlandish, or comical element because that is part of reality too.

     

  • ComafComaf Chicago, ILPosts: 1,154Member Common
    Originally posted by Naowut

    Age of Conan comes to mind. One of the better MMO's in general IMO. 

    Maybe even The Secret World? I don't have much experience with this one so not sure.

    A necromancer can run with all pets out through Cimmeria.  Anyone who read the books knows this man would be killed on the spot and the ashes of his body cast to the 4 winds.  

     

    Since they called this the Age of Conan, this means they aren't remotely serious about game lore.  Priests of Mitra can group with the enemies of mankind, i.e., Priests of Set and kill their own.  Nothing serious or intelligent about this at all.  They sould have called the game inspired by stories similar to the Conan world. 

     

    Luckily for them, they banked on the fact that most gamers who play the game probably don't read the novels.

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  • ComafComaf Chicago, ILPosts: 1,154Member Common
    Originally posted by sudo

    I can only think of only one AAA mmo that cares about its lore enough to not add fluffy bunny pickachoo content:

    Lord of The Rings Online.

    But Bob the Dwarf can become a spider and play in the Ettenmoors against his guild mates, then after the E-Sport is over with, he can become Bob the Dwarf once more.  Had their at least been 2 factions in LoTRO (and it should have had third if you could the undead and or some of the other races of men), then this title would have still had a subscription model.

     

    Honestly - it should have had three factions.  Turbine is a lot like Sony in this, however, where PvP is a very confusing concept. 

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  • ComafComaf Chicago, ILPosts: 1,154Member Common
    Originally posted by wrekognize
    Darkfall Unholy Wars is your game if you can deal with the FFA full loot PVP. The lore is created by the players as history progresses on the server, alliances are built and broken. Friends become enemies.  In this world, the enemies I am looking to destroy are real players, not some mob in a made up story by the developers. I do still enjoy the PVE also.

    Filled with hacks and cheats, very generic armor and if you look at a "battlefield" in general, it looks like the same people are killing themselves.  So really nothing too serious here other than a very basic kill a red target game with full loot.

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  • ReklawReklaw Am.Posts: 6,478Member Uncommon

    It totally depends on the player. Some games could indeed have better  lore but in the end it all is about how someone wants to play a game.

    But unfortunaly to many people these day's rely only on what developers aka the game tells them to do.

    I still feel MMORPG's are the more virtual world type of games and in real life you also have to deal with things you might not consider fun or serious enough luckely we humans are able to filter out what we don't like and enjoy the parts we do like.

  • ComafComaf Chicago, ILPosts: 1,154Member Common
    Originally posted by Torvaldr

    There are a ton of games if you look for them.  Every games seems to have some sort of silliness often around holiday events, but most of these are very light on those fantasy elements that offend your sensitivities:

    Age of Conan

    EVE

    Lord of the Rings Online:  There are some silly and outlandish elements in the game but they are mostly seasonal / event related

    Ryzom

    Darkfall

    The Secret World:  There are some non-serious elements in cosmetic attire, but nothing that isn't lore appropriate for modern earth

    Star Trek Online: Again there are some outlandish elements in the game, but nothing really inappropriate for the IP

     

    There are a ton more if you just take the time to look for them.  Almost every game has some sort of silly, outlandish, or comical element because that is part of reality too.

     

    Secret World goes from a PvP E-Sport back to a pve grinder where all three factions CAN GROUP.  So it's like, hey, I just killed you, wanna go run a mission?

     

    Nothing serious here at all.

     

    Note:  I've seen people put in some attempts at pointing out something serious in the industry, but all I see are very lackluster F2P games.  I'd personally suggest Dark Age of Camelot, but they are so aged at this point that I'm not sure if the only quality PvP game in the history of mmorpgs can be taken seriously anymore either.  Plus, the handful of folks keeping the server on don't sem to care about the bot groups farming dragons and parts of Epic raid dungeons, or Tault Unleashed radar hacks, etc.

     

    I hate to say it, if you want a game that takes itself seriously you might just want to play chess or at least wait until ESO or Camelot Unchaned releases in the far future.

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  • steelheartxsteelheartx Biloxi, MSPosts: 432Member Uncommon
    Originally posted by Nitth

     


    Originally posted by Mopar63
    I have to tell you of late I find that MMOs are becoming, in general, more and more fluffy bunny in their style.  They seem to cater for the general feel good items and seldom if ever seem to take themselves seriously.

     

    I am looking for a lore rich MMO that I serious about it's game world. One where you do not see disco pants and dancing pig companions. One that is lore strong and keeps any extra material lore strong as well.

    Does such an MMO exist?

     

     


     

    Eve Online

    What he said.  EVE is about as serious as it gets for a MMO

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  • DominionlordDominionlord madera, CAPosts: 179Member Uncommon
    they can all group in TSW cause there is a greater evil to fight. Which falls into lore of the game if you bothered to read it?
  • ElRenmazuoElRenmazuo Alexandria, VAPosts: 4,561Member Uncommon
    Elder Scrolls Online
  • TorvalTorval Oregon CountryPosts: 7,222Member Uncommon
    Originally posted by Comaf
    Originally posted by Torvaldr

    There are a ton of games if you look for them.  Every games seems to have some sort of silliness often around holiday events, but most of these are very light on those fantasy elements that offend your sensitivities:

    Age of Conan

    EVE

    Lord of the Rings Online:  There are some silly and outlandish elements in the game but they are mostly seasonal / event related

    Ryzom

    Darkfall

    The Secret World:  There are some non-serious elements in cosmetic attire, but nothing that isn't lore appropriate for modern earth

    Star Trek Online: Again there are some outlandish elements in the game, but nothing really inappropriate for the IP

     

    There are a ton more if you just take the time to look for them.  Almost every game has some sort of silly, outlandish, or comical element because that is part of reality too.

     

    Secret World goes from a PvP E-Sport back to a pve grinder where all three factions CAN GROUP.  So it's like, hey, I just killed you, wanna go run a mission?

     

    Nothing serious here at all.

     

    Note:  I've seen people put in some attempts at pointing out something serious in the industry, but all I see are very lackluster F2P games.  I'd personally suggest Dark Age of Camelot, but they are so aged at this point that I'm not sure if the only quality PvP game in the history of mmorpgs can be taken seriously anymore either.  Plus, the handful of folks keeping the server on don't sem to care about the bot groups farming dragons and parts of Epic raid dungeons, or Tault Unleashed radar hacks, etc.

     

    I hate to say it, if you want a game that takes itself seriously you might just want to play chess or at least wait until ESO or Camelot Unchaned releases in the far future.

    Well, taking anything about this seriously is laughable.  It's a simulated game world where we pretend to be something we're not with absolutely no consequence at all.

    I'm not sure what you're on about with moving between pvp and pve and then bringing up DAoC with its contrived 3 faction themepark pvp.  The game doesn't have out of place lore elements per the OP.  Did you even read the OP?  He doesn't want to see bunny backpacks, anything anime, or anything outlandish in the game world.  He didn't mention anything about combat or game systems requirements.

  • GorweGorwe Ald'RuhnPosts: 2,476Member Uncommon

    All of the following. They often have some lore issues, but what the hell:

    AoC

    EvE

    LoTR:O

    WAR

    (ESO in the future)

    Those are my recommendations. Enjoy!

  • LoktofeitLoktofeit Stone Mountain, GAPosts: 13,680Member Uncommon
    Originally posted by Gorwe

    All of the following. They often have some lore issues, but what the hell:

    AoC

    EvE

    LoTR:O

    WAR

    (ESO in the future)

    Those are my recommendations. Enjoy!

    I don't know anything about ESO, but I'd second the rest of that list.

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  • majimaji ColognePosts: 2,003Member Uncommon

    Fallen Earth

    Let's play Fallen Earth (blind, 300 episodes)

    Let's play Guild Wars 2 (blind, 45 episodes)

  • NetSageNetSage Lake Geneva, WIPosts: 1,040Member Uncommon
    EVE or if you want more of themepark FFXIV.  They do accents and everything.
  • VincerKadenVincerKaden Edison, NJPosts: 457Member
    Originally posted by Comaf
    Originally posted by sudo

    I can only think of only one AAA mmo that cares about its lore enough to not add fluffy bunny pickachoo content:

    Lord of The Rings Online.

    But Bob the Dwarf can become a spider and play in the Ettenmoors against his guild mates, then after the E-Sport is over with, he can become Bob the Dwarf once more.  Had their at least been 2 factions in LoTRO (and it should have had third if you could the undead and or some of the other races of men), then this title would have still had a subscription model.

     

    Honestly - it should have had three factions.  Turbine is a lot like Sony in this, however, where PvP is a very confusing concept. 

    Even in the early stages of beta, Turbine was very clear that LOTRO did not have PvP. What you describe is branded as Monster vs. Player, which was their answer to anyone looking for some non-PvE content. I find absolutely nothing wrong with their game design concept to not have PvP. Not every game needs to have all the same ingredients.

     

    That said, there's plenty of fluffy bunny pickachoo content. Maybe it's not as overt as other games, but it's there with some of the costumes, horses, events, etc.

     

    And THAT said... I still like the game after all these years and am looking forward to the next expansion for Helm's Deep.

     

    But if the OP is looking for "serious", I'd say that Eve Online is the most serious I've played ever. Age of Wushu seems pretty serious in its own way. The Secret World? From top to bottom, that game feels like it's own beast altogether. That's a good thing.

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