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Did FFXIV just decide the PS4 and XBOX One console wars?

fistormfistorm Smalltown, WIPosts: 836Member Common
I'm wondering if this game might just have tipped the scales of the console wars before it even began.   We know games like ESO and EQ Next have pretty high hype and will be going to consoles.   But since this games success has it just decided the war of consoles before it even began?   FFXIV is only on ps4 and PC because Microsoft wouldn't allow their policy to let their games on xbox one be able to be cross played on any other platforms.    What do you guys think,  will this game decide the console wars in the year to come?
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  • quseioquseio stevens, PAPosts: 222Member
    i think you seriously over thought this games popularlity
  • KanethKaneth Posts: 1,922Member Uncommon
    Originally posted by quseio
    i think you seriously over thought this games popularlity

    Considering SE suspended digital sales and the servers are being overloaded, he may be onto something. While I don't believe the popularity of one game will make or break a console, having a line up of popular exclusive titles will certainly help. With more and more mmorpgs coming to consoles, the console who has a better history of having the genre available will attract those types of gamers to their product.

    One thing is certain though. The game is far more popular than anyone anticipated, whether it retains a large portion or settles around the 400k or so SE was hoping for remains to be seen.

  • JedidiahTheadoreJedidiahTheadore Beverly hills, CAPosts: 48Member
    No, this game won't even be a blip on the radar of the next gen console battle.
  • NetSageNetSage Lake Geneva, WIPosts: 1,040Member Uncommon
    I'm going with no.  Xbox will probably have some MMOs.  And, if Microsoft can get past it self FFXIV may even end up on it.  I mean 11 ended up on xbox eventually.
  • ZydariZydari Fort Worth, TXPosts: 84Member
    I can't believe Microsoft could be that stupid. Some of the biggest console titles out there are cross platform games like Madden, Call of Duty, FIFA, etc... I don't see EA letting Microsoft dictate to them who they make games for of what platform. I don't see Xbox doing well if they take that route. 

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  • NetSageNetSage Lake Geneva, WIPosts: 1,040Member Uncommon
    Originally posted by Zydari
    I can't believe Microsoft could be that stupid. Some of the biggest console titles out there are cross platform games like Madden, Call of Duty, FIFA, etc... I don't see EA letting Microsoft dictate to them who they make games for of what platform. I don't see Xbox doing well if they take that route. 

    I don't think you understand the issue.  The issue is MS wants to have a part of the control of all servers that games use on the xbox. So SE would have to send updates through them and xbox servers would only have xbox players both of which SE is saying no to.

  • RidelynnRidelynn Fresno, CAPosts: 4,172Member Uncommon


    Originally posted by NetSage
    Originally posted by Zydari I can't believe Microsoft could be that stupid. Some of the biggest console titles out there are cross platform games like Madden, Call of Duty, FIFA, etc... I don't see EA letting Microsoft dictate to them who they make games for of what platform. I don't see Xbox doing well if they take that route. 
    I don't think you understand the issue.  The issue is MS wants to have a part of the control of all servers that games use on the xbox. So SE would have to send updates through them and xbox servers would only have xbox players both of which SE is saying no to.

    That was an issue for the 360 as well, and I wouldn't say the PS3 necessarily destroyed the 360

  • KyleranKyleran Tampa, FLPosts: 19,980Member Uncommon

    Not at all. If you told me the next version of  some other popular shooter series was going to switch sides and limit themselves to only the PS4 then I'd say you might have a point.

    But FFXIV and even EQN are going to be rounding errors when compared to the number of units sold in the console wars.

     

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  • StrayfeStrayfe Los Angeles, CAPosts: 189Member Uncommon

    XBox One is already pretty much dead on arrival because of their horrible, draconian design philosophies and terrible PR.  I don't think simply going back on what they said and going, "Oh wait, never mind, just kidding."   will win them many customers back.  The damage is done, at least for release.

    Xbox 360 beat out PS3 early on in their release because of the price difference, but I think PS4 and XB1 will be in a reversed position in this generation.

    That being said, FFXIV, as great of a game as it is, doesn't even register on the big map of projected console game success, especially in the face of games like Call of Poopy 152: Generic Clonepaste Shootkill Extreme Edition.

  • NetSageNetSage Lake Geneva, WIPosts: 1,040Member Uncommon
    Originally posted by Ridelynn

     


    Originally posted by NetSage

    Originally posted by Zydari I can't believe Microsoft could be that stupid. Some of the biggest console titles out there are cross platform games like Madden, Call of Duty, FIFA, etc... I don't see EA letting Microsoft dictate to them who they make games for of what platform. I don't see Xbox doing well if they take that route. 
    I don't think you understand the issue.  The issue is MS wants to have a part of the control of all servers that games use on the xbox. So SE would have to send updates through them and xbox servers would only have xbox players both of which SE is saying no to.

     

    That was an issue for the 360 as well, and I wouldn't say the PS3 necessarily destroyed the 360

    And, if you read my first reply you would see I said it wouldn't be a deciding factor.

  • JustsomenoobJustsomenoob lexington, KYPosts: 871Member
    Maybe not by itself, but in combination with other upcoming MMOs that will probably be on PS4/PC (and not xbox) it isn't going to help the Xbox's cause.
  • NirrtixNirrtix Friendswood, TXPosts: 173Member
    As a person who decided to get a PS4 instead of a Xbox One I can tell you this game will change little. I was so unimpressed by it that I cancelled my preorder.  Maybe this game is better on a console, but on the PC I was unimpressed.

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  • ThomasN7ThomasN7 87.18.7.148 1, NJPosts: 6,690Member
    Not for me. Still getting an Xbox One.
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  • Marxis2727Marxis2727 Calgary, ABPosts: 12Member
    Sure it won't help XBox One's sales, but it definitely won't decide the console wars     image
  • RusqueRusque Las Vegas, NVPosts: 2,228Member Uncommon

    Short answer: No.

    Long answer: No.

  • MothanosMothanos ArnhemPosts: 1,860Member Uncommon

    Xbone made crucial mistakes with their new product.
    When most of your friends jump to PS4 you automaticly follow them as you want to play with your buddy's.

    There are alot og Final Fantasy fans out there, anyone who denies that is delusional.
    Final Fantasy is the most famous franchise in the history of gaming.
    Making this mmo exclusive for PS4 as MS just keep shooting their limbs off makes it much easier for PS4 to attract mmo fans and final fantasy fans.

    I think most mmo players would like to play on PC tough, but its also damn chill to play mmo on the couch chilling with a green rocket and a joypad :)
    Final Fantasy sure is one hell of a game and it might have a small impact on selling extra consoles, but it wont have the impact what Microsoft did to themselves.

  • udonudon Durham, NCPosts: 1,797Member Uncommon
    Originally posted by fistorm
    I'm wondering if this game might just have tipped the scales of the console wars before it even began.   We know games like ESO and EQ Next have pretty high hype and will be going to consoles.   But since this games success has it just decided the war of consoles before it even began?   FFXIV is only on ps4 and PC because Microsoft wouldn't allow their policy to let their games on xbox one be able to be cross played on any other platforms.    What do you guys think,  will this game decide the console wars in the year to come?

    Give the game 60 days than lets talk.

  • curacura WarsawPosts: 950Member Uncommon
    Originally posted by Kaneth
    Originally posted by quseio
    i think you seriously over thought this games popularlity

    Considering SE suspended digital sales and the servers are being overloaded, he may be onto something. While I don't believe the popularity of one game will make or break a console, having a line up of popular exclusive titles will certainly help. With more and more mmorpgs coming to consoles, the console who has a better history of having the genre available will attract those types of gamers to their product.

    One thing is certain though. The game is far more popular than anyone anticipated, whether it retains a large portion or settles around the 400k or so SE was hoping for remains to be seen.

    Considering nobody want to buy my account with 31 days of play for less then retail price im not sure if the game is so popular or their infrastructure is just poor.

  • NetSageNetSage Lake Geneva, WIPosts: 1,040Member Uncommon
    I don't think that means much honestly :P.  I've never bought someone elses account no matter how cheap it was.
  • TranquilityTranquility ZwollePosts: 171Member
    Originally posted by Mothanos

    Final Fantasy is the most famous franchise in the history of gaming.
     

    Hahahahaha! Yeah forget Mario, Zelda, Sonic, Halo, the Elder scrolls, the Sims, Crazy Birds, pac man, call of duty, gran turismo and EA sports games. Final Fantasy is excactly what people associate with video games.

    For example, mario bros 1 sold 40.24 million copies.

    Final Fantasy VII (the best selling FF so far) sold 9.72 million copies.

    Even on the playstation Gran Turismo out-sold Final Fanasy every time.

     

    Final Fantasy is a big franchise. You might even consider it a system seller. But to say ff14 will decide a console war? How many times have the game been sold? Half a million sold so far? And of that maybe 30% on the PS3 so far? For reference, call of duty black ops sold 12 million copies on the xbox 360 alone. Mario Cart WII sold 82.98 million.

    The console war was not decided for PS3 when they had their terrible introduction and it wont be decided for microsoft now. Not by a long shot. People are giving FF14 a bit too much credit for that.

     

  • VorchVorch Somewhere, FLPosts: 800Member

    I'm buying a PS4.

    FFXIV won't decide who "wins".

     

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  • DistopiaDistopia Baltimore, MDPosts: 16,902Member Uncommon
    I can't really say anything different than I said in your other "massive success" thread. A subscription game does not become a success through box sales. Declaring FFXIv a success right now would be like declaring TOR a success in its first month.

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  • DistopiaDistopia Baltimore, MDPosts: 16,902Member Uncommon
    Originally posted by Tranquility
    Originally posted by Mothanos

    Final Fantasy is the most famous franchise in the history of gaming.
     

    Hahahahaha! Yeah forget Mario, Zelda, Sonic, Halo, the Elder scrolls, the Sims, Crazy Birds, pac man, call of duty, gran turismo and EA sports games. Final Fantasy is excactly what people associate with video games.

    For example, mario bros 1 sold 40.24 million copies.

    Final Fantasy VII (the best selling FF so far) sold 9.72 million copies.

    Even on the playstation Gran Turismo out-sold Final Fanasy every time.

     

    Final Fantasy is a big franchise. You might even consider it a system seller. But to say ff14 will decide a console war? How many times have the game been sold? Half a million sold so far? And of that maybe 30% on the PS3 so far? For reference, call of duty black ops sold 12 million copies on the xbox 360 alone. Mario Cart WII sold 82.98 million.

    The console war was not decided for PS3 when they had their terrible introduction and it wont be decided for microsoft now. Not by a long shot. People are giving FF14 a bit too much credit for that.

     

    Not to mention just about every FF title to release after 11 has been hard pressed to find any real success in the industry, they've been stripped of all the uniqueness that used to set them apart. They're essentially story games with action sequences now.

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  • SnarkRitterSnarkRitter TPHCMPosts: 316Member
    I don't think delusion of grandeur is exactly a good thing.
  • kingotnwkingotnw Minneapolis, MNPosts: 103Member

    No, but it will do well on the PS4 too with Gamestop letting people take any PS3 games that get released for the PS4, turn them in with $10, and you get a PS4 version of the game trade up. I would think everyone who owns it who gets a PS4 will do that with every game, including this one.

     

    Will it decide a console war? No. No way. It's a good game though, and it's incredibly successful at this point. I love my PS3 and console versions, prefer the PS3 (which I think is amazingly fun to play), have a PS4 preordered, and plan on up converting to the PS4 version in November when it comes out. 

     

    This is easily and without fail the best MMO UI on a console, or with a console type designed ever in the history of the genre. The UI and PS3 control make combat unbelievably fun. It feels natural and fluid.

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