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What do you think of ESO having a cash store?
fistorm
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Do you think they will put a cash store in ESO ever and what do you think it would look like? Me personaly it doesnt matter, I'm part of the shut up and take my money crowd. Just wondering what you all think?
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I agree, either subs or cash shops both imho seems EA greedy to me.
the option to pay a sub or cash shop isn't a bad idea at all from a business standpoint.
as long as its not pay to win i am fine.
Yes they will... free to play with cash shop..... you can buy account stuff and DLC in that cash shop, but not ingame items ...
Best MMO experiences : EQ(PvE), DAoC(PvP), WoW(total package) LOTRO (worldfeel) GW2 (Artstyle and animations and worlddesign) SWTOR (Story immersion) TSW (story) ESO (character advancement)
I wouldn't mind a cash shop just for cosmetic stuff. Lots of players like that.
Why shouldn't the Devs make money?
As long as the items were purely cosmetic, no boosts of any kind, it wouldn't hurt a thing.
Even with the P2P model.
Reading comprehension, learn it!
I said "cosmetic items", never did I say anything about content.
There are lots of players that like looking unique and are willing to pay a few dollars for it. I say why not?
Example, someone wants horns on their helmet. They pay $1.50 at the cash shop, and get to look cool.
How does this hurt you?
If ESO is to be successful and put out lots of content and patches, and do it all on good strong servers, they need to make money.
That's how the real world works
Well I do understand what you mean, however, reading comprehension ??
Cosmetics is still technically content XD. So he didn't say anything wrong really for you to even be talking about reading comprehension, or maybe you should apply that to yourself instead?
A. That must be a new thing, spread by F2P newbies...lol... Because "content" in MMO talk, has ALWAYS been about quests/new places to explore/new classes...ect...ect. So it doesn't matter what YOU think is content, because its really not. Its just fluff.
B. That sounded like something my son would of said when he was 5 years old... Getting that upset over horns is the bottom of the barrel. Besides, you have the SAME option of buying those horns.
C. You are just one person, I can see you think the world revolves around you, that much is clear, but that's not how the real world works. They owe you nothing, your whining and threats of boycott will change nothing.
My preference for a P2P game is no cash shop or currency conversion at all like FF XIV is trying to do. If a company is going to ask me to have enough faith in them to pay $15 a month or even $140 ish a year up front for a game the least they can do is have enough respect for their player base not to do double dip with a cash shop.
It's not that cash shops in games are all evil by default so much as they tend to change the motivations developers have for creating content over time in ways that are not always in the players best interests.
B2P is a great compromise between F2P and P2P.
P2P Advocate: 'Keep the kiddies out with a pay wall!'
F2P Advocate: 'Subscriptions are never worth it!'
B2P Advocate: 'Box price filters out the free loaders and mmo hoppers(to a point), and in the future, if I want to show continued financial support for a great game, I can spend some $$$ in the cash shop for a cool outfit/pet/xp boost!'
A. Any item added to the game is content. Take your spin elsewhere please.
B. Smart son
C, The world? What are you talking about? He is talking about the quality of service he is paying for. And yes, his customer satisfaction obviously only revolves around him. The only thing you can assume here is that he will take his money to spend elsewhere if they will add a cash shop. That is a normal thing to do as a dissatisfied customer. That doesn't make you a whiner lol. It also has nothing to do with a boycott, he never asked others to stop paying.
B2P with a cash shop is still just F2P where you have to pay up front for access to the game.
Not really, because F2Ps only income is through a cash shop, while B2P also have the initial purchase of the game on top of that. So they can reduce what they throw into the cash shop by a lot. Meaning more likely to only have aesthetic items unlike a F2P tends to have XP Boosts and weapons and a whole bunch of Buy to Win crap.
You really didn't think that one through.
P2P with a cash shop is still just F2P where you have to pay up front and pay monthly for access to the game
Best MMO experiences : EQ(PvE), DAoC(PvP), WoW(total package) LOTRO (worldfeel) GW2 (Artstyle and animations and worlddesign) SWTOR (Story immersion) TSW (story) ESO (character advancement)
A. Like I said, a fluff item has never been called content, not in the 20+ years I've been playing MMOs.
B. Smarter than your for sure
C. Of course he is asking others not to play, that is why he shared his opinion. Why else would you share your opinion if not to persuade someone? The threats of boycott and telling them they will never make any money is definitely whining....lol
20+ years? O.o Funny you must be living in a different time period. Because the definition of content hasn't changed as far as I am aware and I work in the game industry lol o.o
>.> My boss never gave me the memo on that I guess.
The game will have a cash shop and the moment the NDA is dropped you will know why.
I hope we shall crush...in its birth the aristocracy of our moneyed corporations, which dare already to challenge our government to a trial of strength and bid defiance to the laws of our country." ~Thomes Jefferson
Earth to Lord Bachus, its 2013 not 2005.
P2P games have had cash shops for years...TESO WILL have a cash shop.
I hope we shall crush...in its birth the aristocracy of our moneyed corporations, which dare already to challenge our government to a trial of strength and bid defiance to the laws of our country." ~Thomes Jefferson
TESO does have a cash shop.
Proof
http://massively.joystiq.com/2013/08/22/gamescom-2013-the-elder-scrolls-online-subscription-ensures-pla
Cash Shop looks like it will contain content as well, even if only hinted at by this statement. I see this is little more than a cash grab and my hype for the game has fallen dramatically. I mean, it isn't even an MMOG. It's more like Diablo or Guild Wars 1, instanced servers for teams to run content combined with 'community' areas where people can hang out together, form teams. and participate in PvP.
I think unnecessary a cash shop in a subscription game.
Making some small calculations:
Based on the values ??of Elder Scrolls V Skyrim (One of the most expensive games ever produced, somewhere around 86 million dollars) and average players (1,000,000) by launching major recent mmos like SWTOR and Guild Wars 2.
Sale price X Buyers
$ 60 x 1,000,000 = $ 60,000,000
monthly payment
$ 15 x 1,000,000 = $ 15,000,000
Thus, only with pre-order and the first current month the entire investment made in production would already be paid and the money received per month would be enough to keep a good team and still make a profit.
I wonder, is it really necessary to put a cash shop or charge for an expansion if the game already has a monthly fee.
What do you think about this?
regardless of the questions, I'm anxious to the launch because I'm a fan of Elder Scrolls saga.