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Project Titan: Morhaime: "...unlikely to be a subscription based MMORPG."

MikeBMikeB MMORPG.com Community ManagerQueens, NYPosts: 5,716Administrator Uncommon

Blizzard's Mike Morhaime described the super-secret Project Titan as "unlikely to be a subscription based MMORPG" during today's Activision-Blizzard investor call.

"We're in the process of selecting a new direction for the project and re-envisioning what we want the game to be," Morhaime said. "While we can't talk about the details yet, it is unlikely to be a subscription based MMORPG."

"I also want to reiterate that there has not been an official announced or projected release date."

via Polygon.

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  • Shadowguy64Shadowguy64 Rohnert Park, CAPosts: 848Member

    Bummer.

     

    Probably won't play.

  • FoomerangFoomerang Portland, ORPosts: 5,564Member Uncommon

    "...to be honest, Its unlikely to even happen."

  • ElRenmazuoElRenmazuo Alexandria, VAPosts: 4,544Member Uncommon
    Final Fantasy XIV is prolly the last subscription based mmo to be released
  • ComafComaf Chicago, ILPosts: 1,154Member Common
    Originally posted by Shadowguy64

    Bummer.

     

    Probably won't play.

    I agree, considering how terrible Blizzard's reputation has been with being unable to make profits off of groundbreaking mmorpg concepts - OH WAIT. 

     

    Seriously - folks want cash shops over a sub model that has a cosmetic shop at best?  Somehow, I'll bet the millions that play this next title won't be concerned with a F2P concept.  They will be too busy having fun.

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  • jpaprockijpaprocki Davisville, WVPosts: 269Member Uncommon
    If it's not sub-based then I wont be playing.  Looks like my mmo days are numbered now.   Time to dust off my single player games.

    I'm not an IT Specialist, Game Developer, or Clairvoyant in real life, but like others on here, I play one on the internet.

  • PAL-18PAL-18 AnachronoxPosts: 802Member

    Absolutely free without cash shop ?

     

    So, did ESO have a successful launch? Yes, yes it did.
    By Ryan Getchell on April 02, 2014.
    **On the radar:http://cyberpunk.net/**

  • HomituHomitu Hometown, HIPosts: 2,030Member
    Originally posted by Comaf
    Originally posted by Shadowguy64

    Bummer.

     

    Probably won't play.

    I agree, considering how terrible Blizzard's reputation has been with being unable to make profits off of groundbreaking mmorpg concepts - OH WAIT. 

     

    Seriously - folks want cash shops over a sub model that has a cosmetic shop at best?  Somehow, I'll bet the millions that play this next title won't be concerned with a F2P concept.  They will be too busy having fun.

    Don't mind him.  He's just trying to make a statement.

  • frestonfreston orensePosts: 521Member
    Funny how people can know in advance if they will play something or not based only on the payment model. Thats only one factor in fifty for me to consider if a game interests me or not
  • Lowfer69Lowfer69 La Grande, ORPosts: 65Member

    I think project "Titan" is a hoax. I think they just keep bringing it up occasionally to keep the rabid fanbase interested.

     

  • DaakenDaaken New York, NYPosts: 158Member
    Originally posted by jpaprocki
    If it's not sub-based then I wont be playing.  Looks like my mmo days are numbered now.   Time to dust off my single player games.

    Not to sound condescending but do you even listen to what you type?  Your going to quit a genre because it no longer offers a paid subscription service for a genre which is chalk full of non-subscription services?

    Random Forum Poster: I want an MMO that is different, original and fun.

    Me: So you want something like EQN

    Them: Nah dude, I want a Holy Trinity, Tab Target combat, Instanced Raiding, and Rigid classes.

    Me: Double Facepalm.

  • LordSneergLordSneerg Lorton, VAPosts: 119Member
    This game is dead before it even launches. Lol
  • RollieJoeRollieJoe Raleigh, NCPosts: 436Member
    Add me to the list of people with Zero interest in cash shop f2p MMO #38327304.  Even if its by Blizzard not interested. 
  • ButtdartButtdart Somewhere, DEPosts: 34Member

    The reason most F2P MMO's are declared 'fail' by the playerbase is because the hardcore - who always lead the way and set the standard in the games, whether they're making youtube vids, running blogs with concrete number-crunching, or running uberguilds - do the math, realize that the company puts out a game where you end up paying more than you would've if it were just $15/month IF you want to play on the high level, and that puts people off when they realize that in order to be a badass and stand out (which lets not kid ourselves, it's what people want to do in these games), they have to open their wallets.

    The old-school MMO player wants an MMO where your chance to stand out is a combination of enduring effort in-game AND a roll of the dice, not just "oh, that guy opened his wallet, that's why he has attention". 

    It's fine if you are just a casual/social player though and want that kind of gameplay.

    The hardcore player of the organized guilds who triumph through their organization in games are done. The money is in catering to casuals, public pickup groups for 8-man dungeons, braindead mechanics that everyone can do (I mean you might as well make it braindead because even if it's complex, it just means the group has to watch the youtube video longer nowadays, right?), on and on.

    TL;DR, stop hoping for old-school MMO's where you feel you achieve something and/or lucked out on a drop. Those days are gone. If you want to be badass in the future MMO, you should get a higher paying job.

  • DauzqulDauzqul Detroit, MIPosts: 1,400Member Uncommon

    Did not care then and do not care now.

     

    Blizzard is just a different company now. Before they hit the top, they cared for both quality and profit. Today, they care only about profit - offering zero innovation.

  • Dreamo84Dreamo84 Niagara Falls, NYPosts: 3,436Member Uncommon
    Yeah... Titan is a hoax. Why would they actually bother developing a new game. Do you hear yourself?

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  • RobokappRobokapp Dublin, OHPosts: 5,205Member Uncommon
    Originally posted by PAL-18

    Absolutely free without cash shop ?

     

    that's how i'll play it.

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  • KyleranKyleran Tampa, FLPosts: 19,969Member Uncommon
    Meh......not surprising and I think its pretty obvious we won't be seeing anything on this for many years to come. Even Blizzard has no idea how to top WOW.

    In my day MMORPG's were so hard we fought our way through dungeons in the snow, uphill both ways.
    "I don't have one life, I have many lives" - Grunty
    Still currently "subscribed" to EVE, and only EVE!!!
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  • AmbrosiaAmorAmbrosiaAmor Miami, FLPosts: 915Member

    Does not surprise me. At least they got that out of the way early on to avoid any arguments/discussions on what business model they will use near release. You never know, they might still go B2P.

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  • MidBossMidBoss Blank, WIPosts: 93Member
    Originally posted by Daaken
    Originally posted by jpaprocki
    If it's not sub-based then I wont be playing.  Looks like my mmo days are numbered now.   Time to dust off my single player games.

    Not to sound condescending but do you even listen to what you type?  Your going to quit a genre because it no longer offers a paid subscription service for a genre which is chalk full of non-subscription services?

    I don't see what your objection is, like him I have no desire to play an MMO that isn't sub based or at the very least B2P in the style of GW2. That's my opinion and preference, and you nor anyone else can say I'm in the wrong for having it.

    Some of us don't like to engage in psychological warfare with the games we should be playing for entertainment.

    Also: obvious, I guess I'm "...unlikely" to play the game then, response.

  • jesteralwaysjesteralways ChittagongPosts: 999Member Uncommon
    b2p with optional subscription is the way to go. if they want to provide proper support(the kind of support we get now in WoW on weekdays) to all the players and keep the high quality of game, then f2p is not an option, b2p with optional sub is the perfect choice then.

    i want an open world, no phasing, no instancing.i want meaningful owpvp.i want player driven economy.i want meaningful crafting.i want awesome exploration, a sense of thrill.i want ow housing with a meaningful effect on my entire gameplay experience, not just some instanced crap.i want all of these free of cost, i don't wanna pay you a cent, game devs can eat grass and continue developing game for me.
    Seems like that is the current consensus of western mmo players.

  • WhiteLanternWhiteLantern Nevada, MOPosts: 2,732Member

    I'm going on record to say that Titan won't even be an MMO.

     

    Titan will be Blizzards first foray into the FPS pool. Borderlands clone, anyone?

    I want a mmorpg where people have gone through misery, have gone through school stuff and actually have had sex even. -sagil

  • HrimnirHrimnir Qeynos, COPosts: 1,597Member Uncommon
    Originally posted by Comaf
    Originally posted by Shadowguy64

    Bummer.

     

    Probably won't play.

    I agree, considering how terrible Blizzard's reputation has been with being unable to make profits off of groundbreaking mmorpg concepts - OH WAIT. 

     

    Seriously - folks want cash shops over a sub model that has a cosmetic shop at best?  Somehow, I'll bet the millions that play this next title won't be concerned with a F2P concept.  They will be too busy having fun.

    Wait a second, this from a guy whose signature says:

    "I want an mmorpg where pvp matters, my enemies are not my race or class, and community matters."

    And you are saying the above quoted text in regards to a blizzard product? I'm sorry but i have to ask if you're a walking contradiction.  Because i dont know anybody who would realistically try to argue that WOW PVP mattered, community mattered, etc.

    I also find it hilariously funny that you think blizzard is capable of "groundbreaking MMO concepts".  They're quite capable of ripping off other people's ground breaking concepts.  Much like they shit canned the existing version of Titan so they could wait until EQ:Next info comes out so they can proceed to rip that all off.

    "The surest way to corrupt a youth is to instruct him to hold in higher esteem those who think alike than those who think differently."

    - Friedrich Nietzsche

  • mcrippinsmcrippins Dallas, TXPosts: 1,069Member Uncommon
    Originally posted by Buttdart

    The reason most F2P MMO's are declared 'fail' by the playerbase is because the hardcore - who always lead the way and set the standard in the games, whether they're making youtube vids, running blogs with concrete number-crunching, or running uberguilds - do the math, realize that the company puts out a game where you end up paying more than you would've if it were just $15/month IF you want to play on the high level, and that puts people off when they realize that in order to be a badass and stand out (which lets not kid ourselves, it's what people want to do in these games), they have to open their wallets.

    The old-school MMO player wants an MMO where your chance to stand out is a combination of enduring effort in-game AND a roll of the dice, not just "oh, that guy opened his wallet, that's why he has attention". 

    It's fine if you are just a casual/social player though and want that kind of gameplay.

    The hardcore player of the organized guilds who triumph through their organization in games are done. The money is in catering to casuals, public pickup groups for 8-man dungeons, braindead mechanics that everyone can do (I mean you might as well make it braindead because even if it's complex, it just means the group has to watch the youtube video longer nowadays, right?), on and on.

    TL;DR, stop hoping for old-school MMO's where you feel you achieve something and/or lucked out on a drop. Those days are gone. If you want to be badass in the future MMO, you should get a higher paying job.

    Well said.

  • TheHavokTheHavok San Jose, CAPosts: 2,398Member Uncommon
    Originally posted by Hrimnir
    Originally posted by Comaf
    Originally posted by Shadowguy64

    Bummer.

     

    Probably won't play.

    I agree, considering how terrible Blizzard's reputation has been with being unable to make profits off of groundbreaking mmorpg concepts - OH WAIT. 

     

    Seriously - folks want cash shops over a sub model that has a cosmetic shop at best?  Somehow, I'll bet the millions that play this next title won't be concerned with a F2P concept.  They will be too busy having fun.

    Wait a second, this from a guy whose signature says:

    "I want an mmorpg where pvp matters, my enemies are not my race or class, and community matters."

    And you are saying the above quoted text in regards to a blizzard product? I'm sorry but i have to ask if you're a walking contradiction.  Because i dont know anybody who would realistically try to argue that WOW PVP mattered, community mattered, etc.

    I also find it hilariously funny that you think blizzard is capable of "groundbreaking MMO concepts".  They're quite capable of ripping off other people's ground breaking concepts.  Much like they shit canned the existing version of Titan so they could wait until EQ:Next info comes out so they can proceed to rip that all off.

    You are forgetting something though - Blizzard took those concepts and improved upon them.  Who cares if they aren't original.  How much is original in video games today anyways?  I want a good, fun product that I can spend hours and hours playing.  Blizzard has proven to delivery those products.  Love them  or hate them, I don't care - as long as they keep on making quality games, i'll keep on playing them.

  • AsamofAsamof La Canada, CAPosts: 738Member Uncommon

    Everyone saying they're not playing now are as believable as the Modern Warfare 2 boycotts (for anyone who doesn't know what this is, google it)

    Reminds me of how D3 managed to continue to sell millions of copies despite being one of the most poorly received  PC games of all time

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