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$12,500 founder pack? What?

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  • Mtibbs1989Mtibbs1989 Fredericksburg, VAPosts: 2,920Member Uncommon
    Originally posted by GwapoJosh
    Originally posted by Mtibbs1989
    Originally posted by Hayasa
    Noone finds wierd the Tabula Rasa T-shirt? Seriously, why Tabula Rasa? O_o

     Tabula Rasa is more than just a video game :)

     In addition to the 12,500 dollar package. If none of you have even paid attention to this game for that long (since many of you didn't even see this). These packs have essentially been here since the public knew about Path of Exile. They're there to help fund the development of the game and since they're an extremely small development team they need the money. They did not go about doing a Kickstarter like many other companies. Instead, they've made this feature available for people on their website for those who are willing to help pay the development process.

     The "founder pack" if you'd like to call it is more like bundles you'd receive when you're helping to fund a Kickstarter. For example: http://www.kickstarter.com/projects/cze/hex-mmo-trading-card-game . Hex is a game currently under development which is offering many packs for investors to choose from. Their packs run all the way up to 10,000 dollars.

     What's wrong with investing a large amount of money into a company?

     Is it so wrong to help fund a company who's doing an incredible job with their game?

     Path of Exile is an extremely good action RPG. The game's supposedly going to have 10 acts. 3 of which are already released so far. The game's 3 acts as of right now are fully playable without any restrictions and the game has major updates on a regular basis. People should not be bashing on a company who's standards are far superior to other companies.

    If you are "investing" $12,500 with this company, what are the expected returns?

     Well hopefully if you invest your money into a company GGG for example are the ones creating Path of Exile. You're investing money into a product that you hope will be top notch. Would you disagree that Path of Exile isn't a good game? I'd most certainly invest money into a company if I feel they'll create a quality product and I'll expect a quality product in return.

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  • Mtibbs1989Mtibbs1989 Fredericksburg, VAPosts: 2,920Member Uncommon
    Originally posted by ShortyBible
    Originally posted by Mtibbs1989
    Originally posted by Hayasa
    Noone finds wierd the Tabula Rasa T-shirt? Seriously, why Tabula Rasa? O_o

     Tabula Rasa is more than just a video game :)

     In addition to the 12,500 dollar package. If none of you have even paid attention to this game for that long (since many of you didn't even see this). These packs have essentially been here since the public knew about Path of Exile. They're there to help fund the development of the game and since they're an extremely small development team they need the money. They did not go about doing a Kickstarter like many other companies. Instead, they've made this feature available for people on their website for those who are willing to help pay the development process.

     The "founder pack" if you'd like to call it is more like bundles you'd receive when you're helping to fund a Kickstarter. For example: http://www.kickstarter.com/projects/cze/hex-mmo-trading-card-game . Hex is a game currently under development which is offering many packs for investors to choose from. Their packs run all the way up to 10,000 dollars.

     What's wrong with investing a large amount of money into a company?

     Is it so wrong to help fund a company who's doing an incredible job with their game?

     Path of Exile is an extremely good action RPG. The game's supposedly going to have 10 acts. 3 of which are already released so far. The game's 3 acts as of right now are fully playable without any restrictions and the game has major updates on a regular basis. People should not be bashing on a company who's standards are far superior to other companies.

    Did you buy a $12,500.00 founder pack?

     I will not confirm nor deny this question.

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  • SpellforgedSpellforged Belvidere, ILPosts: 458Member
    The funny thing is that at least a few rich people will actually buy this.  I guarantee it.  Hundreds of players purchased the Diamond Supporter package ($1,000 get to design a Unique item) in closed beta.

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  • DrakynnDrakynn The Pas, MBPosts: 2,030Member
    hmmm isn't wasteful excess and self indulgence historically one of the signs of a Civilization in decline or about to fall?heh.
  • ZebladeZeblade Colorado Springs, COPosts: 926Member

    Lol wow..  I bet if they changed the wording then most would love it. Kickstarter $12k.. then ..then its ok

     

     

  • gameguy369gameguy369 Kansas City, KSPosts: 446Member Uncommon
    Originally posted by fascism

    6 months later...

    "Yeah remember the Mouldy Chicken from Paths Of Exile? I designed that!"

    "Paths of exile isnt that a  diablo clone that had all those useless passive skills? People still play that?"

    "well no... but I had a part in designing it!"

    "How much did they pay you?"

    "Uh.. i paid them 12,000 dollars but I got a forum title! And im in the credits!"

    "..."

    While I agree 12.5k is steep, I wouldn't bash the game itself. It's 1000x better than Diablo 3, and has a lot of really good ideas/mechanics.

  • SengellSengell FreeportPosts: 29Member
    I don't understand why many people are so upset about this. They basically ask for a donation giving a candy in return - nothing wrong with that and not disguised in any way. People with a certain wealth have to spend their money anywhere and there are a lot more questionable ways to expend it. And yes, people are suffering around the globe, but that are tasks of governments and nations in a whole, not private person who are free to choose and support their affections. And funding a game for others with less money to enjoy a better playing experience is a nice way to add to a common good. And if americans would care enough for the "hunger in the world"(cause that argument has arisen), instead of accusing a lil freelancer game for ripping of money, they could allow africa to produce their own medicine against hiv, don't grab other people ressources away from them or things like that (don't wonna go into more gruesome detail what could improve the world in a whole), before bitching about private persons donating to a game.
  • mari3kmari3k erger, AKPosts: 135Member

    No its not crazy,

    1. The time the desinger team makes that monster costs much money.

    2. Its oviosly for rich people.If a soccer loving sheek can spend 100 Million to buy a soccer team, then a games loving sheek can buy this with his pocket money.

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  • stayBlindstayBlind Suwannee, GAPosts: 527Member
    Originally posted by Datastar
    LOL wow that's....just wow....if someone actually buys that I hope they suffer immensely, some folks cant even afford food.

    How much have you spent on games?

    You know, some folks can't even afford food.

    Greedy asshole.

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  • InsaneDalekInsaneDalek Detroit, MIPosts: 119Member
    Originally posted by Datastar
    LOL wow that's....just wow....if someone actually buys that I hope they suffer immensely, some folks cant even afford food.

    I agree. How dare someone spend the money they more than likely worked hard to earn on whatever they want to! How selfish of people to feel so entitled to the fruit of their own labor. Bastards.

    /sarcasm

     

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  • Ramonski7Ramonski7 Aurora, ILPosts: 2,656Member Uncommon

    Honestly I'm more offended by the expectations of the developers than the acceptance of the few defenders here. It really sends a clear message of just how superficial developers think their most avid supporters are. Where's the trip to meet the team? The handcrafted limited addition swag? No you get a bunch of useless digital and real trinkets. Oh...and a copy of the model of the monster you designed which they would have to make anyway seeing as they are probably gonna need one to nail down it's design to begin with.

     

    Developers have been using design-a-monster contest for YEARS to offer it's fanbase and now they're making them pay for it....nice. They really don't think much of you if they think they can buy you off with a box full of digital and trivial garbage. A more classy act would have been to simply suggest on their website that if you would like to give more to show your support contact us at yada, yada, yada. But if they think gamers nowadays are about nothing more than showboating and oneupsmanship then who am I to stand in the way of progress? Just don't get irritated when a batch of shrewd gamers start to demands more for shelling out that kind of dough and that useless swag slowly starts to turn into real items of advantage in-game. I mean who are you to stop progression right? If players are paying that much just to showboat now, where to you think the line will eventually be drawn?

     

    Like I said, the better route would have been to offer a package to come meet the team for some one-on-one time with them, that way they can take pictures, sign autographs and really get to know the gamers that are supporting them, you know give that lucky gamer some real memories to hold onto, rather than turning this into a digital fundraiser with very little personal contact.

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  • HokieHokie Vancouver Wa.Posts: 1,063Member Uncommon
    Originally posted by Nitth

     


    Originally posted by Gravarg
    Um, I've noticed the "new" thing for developers to do are the founder's packs, but $12,500 for a game is just crazy.  I think it's a trick to find out who's crazy and lock them in a mental institution lol.

     

     

    https://www.pathofexile.com/purchase


     

    So i went to the site and had a look at what you get......
    Doesn't match up to 12,000 worth of value..

    You quite literally are getting virtually nothing.

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  • red_cruiserred_cruiser Milwaukee, WIPosts: 472Member Uncommon
    Somebody at the IRS is signing up for this service right now as a business expense!
  • ThaVampThaVamp LeidenPosts: 48Member

    For all complainers, remember all the conent added together is worth AT LEAST 50.000!!!! ;-)

    But seriously my full game collection might not be worth so much, and I have quite some games. On top of that, at least they should give all in-game content ever released in the game and not a limited amount of points.

  • NirvyNirvy StolhoemPosts: 73Member
    Several people have already bought this, they admit to it being pocket change for them though. Good for them if they have that kind of cash, its an excellent game.

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  • Darkarai79Darkarai79 Jacksonville, FLPosts: 39Member
    you should see the founder packs for face of mankind lol 
  • BrownAleBrownAle fantasyland, MEPosts: 399Member

     

     

    I smell a new type of indy crowd funding marketing scheme appearing, and ive suspected it for a while.

    Basically involves insanely high priced donation packs and investors that use the system to make it appear that its just normal fans so into the game they will part with massive amounts of money.  Not to mention employees friends and family who are gifted the $100-$200 packs with forum titles who then go onto the forum and make those "look at me" threads.

    This gives the impression that the game is so awesome because look at all the normal people just like me who have paid $100-$1000 to donate to this game, hmm well maybe I can afford a $50 pack for a forum title and try to fit in...

    I forget what game it was, it was that notable and memorable, who made some big splashes with kickstarter asking for a nominal amount and getting millions...and I sit there and look at the vague info, and see how no one is really talking about the game elsewhere and I think...they probably just had their partner in ownership buy in via kickstarter to make it look like it have insane support...despite no hype anywhere about the game.

     

    As for POE, im glad some people support it. I paid $20 for an effect and warehouse space and that was about what the game is worth, I don't play it anymore.  Once you realize how pointless 90% of the skill web is, how survivability is the only real path, and how the actual skills on the web are so specialized as to never make sense outside of one maps encounter...well that and how boring combat was...I decided I gave the guys $20, it was a nice try at D2, and I moved on.  Still playing that hated game that cost $60 though...really getting my money out of that one lol.

  • BraindomeBraindome Posts: 769Member Uncommon
    • 2 Path of Exile Stickers

     

    Are you kidding me! Totally worth it!

  • CyclopsSlayerCyclopsSlayer Minneapolis, MNPosts: 532Member
    Originally posted by Gravarg

    Um, I've noticed the "new" thing for developers to do are the founder's packs, but $12,500 for a game is just crazy.  I think it's a trick to find out who's crazy and lock them in a mental institution lol.

     

    https://www.pathofexile.com/purchase

    They are by far and away not the only ones doing this.  Pretty much every Crowd-funded games has something similar.

     

    Camelot Unchained:

    Pledge $10,000 or more -  4 backers Limited (1 left of 5) - A DRAGONWHALE? PHYSICAL REWARDS 

     

    Star Citizen:

    Pledge $10,000 or more -  1 backer Limited (9 left of 10)

     

    Elite Dangerous:

    Pledge £5,000 or more -  5 backers All gone!

     

    So as you can see, not only do others offer similar, they consistently have takers.

     

  • jpnolejpnole Tampa, FLPosts: 1,656Member Uncommon
    It's actually a great marketing strategy. If you browse through their forums, you will see a lot of e-peen competition among forum titles. I remember back in the run up to CB people were going nuts trying to get the tier of their founder package higher. One dude put it on his credit card. Basically they put everyone in competition with each other for the coolest title. Then sit back and profit. 
  • ZezdaZezda Posts: 685Member Uncommon

    God forbid that people are allowed to decide how they want to spend their own money.

     

    So much rage over nothing.

  • boxsndboxsnd Kraxton, ARPosts: 438Member Uncommon
    The devs say they are actually losing money on that $12.5k pack. Creating a monster costs more than $12.5k.

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  • ClassicstarClassicstar rotjeknorPosts: 2,690Member


    Originally posted by Gravarg
    Um, I've noticed the "new" thing for developers to do are the founder's packs, but $12,500 for a game is just crazy.  I think it's a trick to find out who's crazy and lock them in a mental institution lol. https://www.pathofexile.com/purchase

    Yeh they do this constantly for high ammount luring people into open up there wallets lol.

    Always easy victems out there seduced with shiny things lol

    One of reason why a stay away from this kind of games hehe.

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  • FusionFusion VaasaPosts: 1,391Member Uncommon

    Saints Row 4 has / had a 1 million dollar pack, sure it included lamborghini gallardo, virgin galactic space flight and whatnot, but still... a friggin mil :D

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  • ClassicstarClassicstar rotjeknorPosts: 2,690Member


    Originally posted by Zezda
    God forbid that people are allowed to decide how they want to spend their own money. So much rage over nothing.

    It has nothing to do with being aloud to spent your money how you see fit or not.

    Games should be 50 max or a monthly fee but not 50 bucks and then constantly reminded buy more more.
    Those who just wanne play game and pay 50 bucks now know they have a half content rest you see if you buy more its all money grab these days lazy money hungry bastards that only make full games if you pay 1000bucks.

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