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Let's stop using the term "F2P"
Arclan
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One only need look at threads here to see "F2P" is hated by many and loved (dearly) by a few. But the term "F2P," is a marketing term coined by the very industry it serves. Saying "Free to Play" is about as useful as a grocery store claiming "Free to Shop."
I propose anyone who dislikes F2P to stop using that term since it only furthers their cause. Use "Monetization Model," instead or simply MM.
Luckily, i don't need you to like me to enjoy video games. -nariusseldon.
In F2P I think it's more a case of the game's trying to play the player's. -laserit
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People like 'free'. Doesn't matter you call it. They will still opt for something free versus having to pay for it.
The semantics in the wording is irrelevant.
GAS is definitely a runner-up!
Luckily, i don't need you to like me to enjoy video games. -nariusseldon.
In F2P I think it's more a case of the game's trying to play the player's. -laserit
You're assuming that people don't understand what the term means. Everyone here understands what the term means. If I use the term "F2P" to describe a game, then people have an idea of what to expect. For instance, if EQN is F2P, people know they can download, install and start playing the game without spending any upfront money.
This is just another version of the "F2P games aren't actually free" thread.
I can not remember winning or losing a single debate on the internet.
Yeh.
F2P is obviously free for most players, and for me.
I wonder if you have a t-shirt with that on it.
Maybe we should refer to them as "LE" versions of MMO's. So you have EQ2, then EQ2 LE which could stand for "Limited experience". Basically stating you don't get the full experience without paying.
In all honesty, Im sticking with F2P. People already know that F2P = Pay to compete. Now if you don't care about competition, and spending 2x or 3x the amount of time to accomplish something is no biggie, then F2P is the way to go for you. And I see nothing wrong with that.
Here is what I have found to be true in almost every "F2P" game I have played.
It is true that these games are "free", sure you can DL them and install them and play them without spending a dime.
What it really boils down to is the type of gamer you are at heart. Mediocre Gamer VS Actual Gamer.
For this example we will use the most recent "F2P" game I started playing seriously which is Planetside 2 by SOE. I have been playing PS2 for about 3 months now and it didn't take me but a week to realize that if I wanted to actually compete with these monsters (real fps gamers) that I would have to do 2 things.
1. Sub to the game for 14.99 a month, to increase my resource and cert gain plus allow myself more passive certs while not online.
2. Invest in enough station cash to buy the proper weapons and vehicle mounts to be a viable asset to the war effort.
Now in regards to #2, yes I am aware I could have gotten all of these weapons for 1000's of certs each at the expense of about a year's worth of play. To that I say... have you ever played this game? Do you really expect the average gamer to get their ass beat for 12 months before they can stand up for themselves in a game.... yeah probably not.
Doing these 2 things have transformed the gameplay experience into one of utter frustration, to something that is actually fun.
So what does this show us? Well in the case of PS2 it shows us that playing FREE=Frustration and headache, while spending money P2P=Happiness and Fun.
Just subbing to this game places a player from Mediocre status to contributor.
PS2 is just one example, almost every F2P game I have ever played has this distinct separation, spend money= character good, play free= character sucks balls.
F2P is F2P if you want to suck balls <---- new F2P slogan
Exactly.
Plus, there are different aspects of completion. In Marvel Heroes, you can "compete" the game with two heroes for free. The question is whether you count "playing other heroes" part of the completion.
I love the OP's sig and I think that totally describes it. Here's the flip side to your analogy, though, you might not buy a room full of clowns a drink, but would you buy a room full of beautiful women a drink (or men, whatever your choice)?
Either way, going to the bar is free, but it gets you in the door. What you do when you're there is up to you. Shoot, maybe you hate it altogether, maybe clowns scare you, so just walk out. That's the whole point of F2P is to allow you to shop around until you find a "bar" that you really like and where you'll actually "buy a drink". The main difference is that if you're an idiot and choose to buy the entire bar rounds all night, there isn't anyone there to cut you off when you've had too much.
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Who's really fooled by the word free in f2p ? I know that when I load up a f2p game I'll be able to mess around in it and play casual as long as I like. I can do lots of things as long as I'm in no rush to be at the upper end of game play any time soon. I can play for free as long as I don't have unreal expectations as to what I'm being offered for nothing.
If I really want to play the game serious I know going in I'll have to spend money.
I think most people know this.
So really the type of gamer that comes onto forums and rages that a game is p2w or that free games aren't free because people send money to get ahead.....is that person really looking for a better description of the payment model or is there something else going on there.
Exactly. There is little deception here. You know you can play part of the game free. You know what you are buying before you put in your cc number in a cash shop.
You can decide, as most players do, not to spend a dime.
welfare games for welfare players. wgwp.
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"f2p"
"freeloaders too, participate"
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Nothing wrong with freeloading when devs are practically begging you to freeload.
wrong, stop using your own interpretationshttp://oxforddictionaries.com/definition/english/free?q=free
free
adverb (freer /?fri??/, freest /?fri??st/)
without cost or payment
F2A
Free to be annoyed.
All die, so die well.
That's only 1 of many definitions of the word "free" and the only one you selected to use but not necessary the meaning of the companies that used it.
Check this out in the same oxford dictionaries:
http://oxforddictionaries.com/definition/english/free?q=free
3. not subject to engagements or obligations:the bathroom was free
ROFL. Go take the bathroom home and claim it is free of charge?
Sheesh you people. It just means I can play the game for free, thats it, nothing more.
I can play for free.
I can pay for things I want if I choose to.
This isn't hard.
I have to agree. There used to be a song, "the best things in life are free," but we all know that turned out to be b.s.
Luckily, i don't need you to like me to enjoy video games. -nariusseldon.
In F2P I think it's more a case of the game's trying to play the player's. -laserit
Context:
noun
the circumstances that form the setting for an event, statement, or idea, and in terms of which it can be fully understood and assessed:
the parts of something written or spoken that immediately precede and follow a word or passage and clarify its meaning:
<span exgrbreak"="">word processing is affected by the context in which words appear
http://oxforddictionaries.com/us/definition/american_english/context
Lets stay on topic please.