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[Column] ArcheAge: Music, Arts, and... Swimsuits?

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  • someforumguysomeforumguy HomePosts: 3,540Member Uncommon
    Originally posted by Fendel84M
    All the non in game world relevant stuff breaks immersion for me though, personally. Running up to someones house in a High Fantasy world and seeing a pepsi machine and Scooby Doo paintings on the wall is a little disrupting.

    Maybe it is just not a high fantasy world.

  • MegatronicMegatronic Ofallon, MOPosts: 35Member
    Originally posted by OG_Zorvan
    After seeing the cars and submarines, stupid clothes and "art" and finding out the game is about as "sandbox" as Pac-Man, there's no way I'll waste any more time on this title. Which is a shame, as it was one of the few in a long time I was looking forward to.

    How are you wasting time on a mmo that isn't even out yet? 

  • OG_ZorvanOG_Zorvan Fresno, CAPosts: 615Member
    Originally posted by someforumguy
    Originally posted by Fendel84M
    All the non in game world relevant stuff breaks immersion for me though, personally. Running up to someones house in a High Fantasy world and seeing a pepsi machine and Scooby Doo paintings on the wall is a little disrupting.

    Maybe it is just not a high fantasy world.

    At this point, i don't think even the devs know what it is. It's more like your typical "throw everything in but the kitchen sink" b-grade asian game. Perfect World did the same shit.

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  • OG_ZorvanOG_Zorvan Fresno, CAPosts: 615Member
    Originally posted by Megatronic
    Originally posted by OG_Zorvan
    After seeing the cars and submarines, stupid clothes and "art" and finding out the game is about as "sandbox" as Pac-Man, there's no way I'll waste any more time on this title. Which is a shame, as it was one of the few in a long time I was looking forward to.

    How are you wasting time on a mmo that isn't even out yet? 

    Waiting for something takes time, therefore I wasted that time.

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  • EluwienEluwien EspooPosts: 166Member

    Maeby 2 years ago... but now AA just looks old... took too long to become reality.

     

    And race cars... 

     

    Beautiful dream, yet again ruined for good.

     

     

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  • ArglebargleArglebargle Austin, TXPosts: 1,418Member Uncommon

    Boy, I can remember just like it was yesterday, when ArcheAge was the Great Hype Hope for the Bittervets.   I guess that title will go to EQNext until reality rears its nasty head there too.

     

    I do find this sort of cobbling in all sorts of anachronisms to kill immersion in a game.   If you can only do it in your own home, that's one thing, but if it impinges on the world, that's another.  We'll see....

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  • coretex666coretex666 PraguePosts: 1,934Member Uncommon
    Originally posted by mcrippins

    Oh short sighted friends.. For those of you posting about immersion breaking due to people's creativity - may not find the sandbox to be the best place. Sandboxes are meant to inspire creativity, allow the players to control the world, and give them the utilities to build whatever it is they choose to build. 

     

    Unless you're some kind of hardcore RP'er which most of you aren't, then you really have zero room to complain. First off, you haven't even played this game. You saw a couple of screenshots or a video and instantly judged it as if you've earned the right. You haven't. Shut up. There are a billion and one games out there that do not inspire any sort of creativity and will not break your precious 'theme' (which you never cared about before until someone else mentioned it). So please just leave these games to the people that really, really want them, and don't go yelling in our forums to make changes that already exist in other, lesser, games.

    Interesting opinion which I completely disagree with.

     

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  • Butch808Butch808 sheffieldPosts: 319Member Uncommon

    As goofy as it sounds im glad they are doing it, it's a little different than the usual "must have pure fantasy immsersion nao!" stuff on the market currently. sure some people don't like it and thats fine and maybe it can get out of hand but there should be a place for everything and everyone, i hope the devs are on the ball to stop it getting to crass.

    Hey maybe they will add a non pop culture server for those looking for more immersion.

  • burno111burno111 bluesprings, MOPosts: 3Member
    All of these things and more is what makes ArcheAge, The music part they added is a great little addon. Though, how it is used in the game still confuses me, but actually being able to make real life things is great! Painting can also be very cool, didn't read a whole lot on it, but still pretty cool! The swim suits don't seem to catch my attention a whole lot, But to make a totally free and have a game with endless possibilities, New and diverse things are always a plus. I can't wait to see this game in action
  • MegatronicMegatronic Ofallon, MOPosts: 35Member
    Originally posted by OG_Zorvan
    Originally posted by Megatronic
    Originally posted by OG_Zorvan
    After seeing the cars and submarines, stupid clothes and "art" and finding out the game is about as "sandbox" as Pac-Man, there's no way I'll waste any more time on this title. Which is a shame, as it was one of the few in a long time I was looking forward to.

    How are you wasting time on a mmo that isn't even out yet? 

    Waiting for something takes time, therefore I wasted that time.

    It only takes time if you have to take time out of your day to do it.  Coming to mmorpg.com and finding some sour news on an upcoming title is hardly wasting time.  Maybe if you had to wait in line to get this news.

  • SavageHorizonSavageHorizon ParisPosts: 2,084Member Uncommon
    Originally posted by OG_Zorvan
    After seeing the cars and submarines, stupid clothes and "art" and finding out the game is about as "sandbox" as Pac-Man, there's no way I'll waste any more time on this title. Which is a shame, as it was one of the few in a long time I was looking forward to.

    The devs have never promoted the game as a sandbox, you and the over excited western media did that. Jake has always said it's a themepark with sandbox elements. Thing is when the game releases in the west you will still try it while forgetting the your above comment.

    It always happens.

     

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  • craftseekercraftseeker kynetonPosts: 845Member Uncommon
    Originally posted by burno111
    All of these things and more is what makes ArcheAge, The music part they added is a great little addon. Though, how it is used in the game still confuses me, but actually being able to make real life things is great! Painting can also be very cool, didn't read a whole lot on it, but still pretty cool! The swim suits don't seem to catch my attention a whole lot, But to make a totally free and have a game with endless possibilities, New and diverse things are always a plus. I can't wait to see this game in action

    Innovative New and Diverse?

    Or perhaps an incoherent pastiche of the detritus from a dozen dead MMOs that went before it.

    Sandbox?

    Or used kitty litter tray full of strange brown crusty objects and pungent smelling damp stuff.  Scratch the surface and the odor gets stronger and things feel damper.

    Oh and that coolness is from the evaporation of what ever it is that is making the tray damp.

  • someforumguysomeforumguy HomePosts: 3,540Member Uncommon
    Originally posted by OG_Zorvan
    Originally posted by someforumguy
    Originally posted by Fendel84M
    All the non in game world relevant stuff breaks immersion for me though, personally. Running up to someones house in a High Fantasy world and seeing a pepsi machine and Scooby Doo paintings on the wall is a little disrupting.

    Maybe it is just not a high fantasy world.

    At this point, i don't think even the devs know what it is. It's more like your typical "throw everything in but the kitchen sink" b-grade asian game. Perfect World did the same shit.

    I also don't like the way they mix about anything. Even though I am kind of bored with the high fantasy theme, I do prefer at least a coherent theme,

    My comment was more about that it was quite obvious that Arche Age is not high fantasy.

  • SavageHorizonSavageHorizon ParisPosts: 2,084Member Uncommon
    Originally posted by craftseeker
    Originally posted by burno111
    All of these things and more is what makes ArcheAge, The music part they added is a great little addon. Though, how it is used in the game still confuses me, but actually being able to make real life things is great! Painting can also be very cool, didn't read a whole lot on it, but still pretty cool! The swim suits don't seem to catch my attention a whole lot, But to make a totally free and have a game with endless possibilities, New and diverse things are always a plus. I can't wait to see this game in action

    Innovative New and Diverse?

    Or perhaps an incoherent pastiche of the detritus from a dozen dead MMOs that went before it.

    Sandbox?

    Or used kitty litter tray full of strange brown crusty objects and pungent smelling damp stuff.  Scratch the surface and the odor gets stronger and things feel damper.

    Oh and that coolness is from the evaporation of what ever it is that is making the tray damp.

    I'll have to use the above comment on the 2/8/13 when people like you realize that Smeds idea of a "sandbox" mmo isn't what people like you drooling over EQN call a sandbox.

    Oh, and i'm looking forward to EQN, played the IP for 14 years but judging from your posts Smed has already convinced you.

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  • craftseekercraftseeker kynetonPosts: 845Member Uncommon
    Originally posted by SavageHorizon
    Originally posted by craftseeker
    Originally posted by burno111
    All of these things and more is what makes ArcheAge, The music part they added is a great little addon. Though, how it is used in the game still confuses me, but actually being able to make real life things is great! Painting can also be very cool, didn't read a whole lot on it, but still pretty cool! The swim suits don't seem to catch my attention a whole lot, But to make a totally free and have a game with endless possibilities, New and diverse things are always a plus. I can't wait to see this game in action

    Innovative New and Diverse?

    Or perhaps an incoherent pastiche of the detritus from a dozen dead MMOs that went before it.

    Sandbox?

    Or used kitty litter tray full of strange brown crusty objects and pungent smelling damp stuff.  Scratch the surface and the odor gets stronger and things feel damper.

    Oh and that coolness is from the evaporation of what ever it is that is making the tray damp.

    I'll have to use the above comment on the 2/8/13 when people like you realize that Smeds idea of a "sandbox" mmo isn't what people like you drooling over EQN call a sandbox.

    Oh, and i'm looking forward to EQN, played the IP for 14 years but judging from your posts Smed has already convinced you.

    Smed and Smokescreener have never convinced me of anything.  I have high hopes and maintain a sense of optimism but would be unsurprised at bitter disappointment come early August.

  • WolfhammerWolfhammer KetteringPosts: 694Member Uncommon
    Originally posted by Arakazi

    The game looks like a aesthetic mess. To make it clear to those that don't seem to get it, imagine watching Game of thrones when Ned Stark is chatting to Jon Snow about honor and duty all dressed up in their medieval finery, when Jamie Lannister walks by wearing speedos and sipping from a can of coke.

     Boom!  Nailed it..  That beach vid belongs in Sim:Spring Break not a fantasy MMO...  There are too many conflicting themes it appears.

    How can any character on that beach wearing swim shorts, Speedo's and Bikini's slugging on a cocktail, then wander off and go get armoured up and start dealing death???  The two ideals just don't mesh !!

     
     

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  • AlBQuirkyAlBQuirky Sioux City, IAPosts: 3,828Member


    Originally posted by Fendel84M
    All the non in game world relevant stuff breaks immersion for me though, personally. Running up to someones house in a High Fantasy world and seeing a pepsi machine and Scooby Doo paintings on the wall is a little disrupting.
    I'm with you on that. With each "Cool!" that escaped my mouth, a "Crap!" followed shortly.

    Excuse me, but you got the real world in this fantasy world.

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    Personally the only modern MMORPG trend that annoys me is the idea that MMOs need to be designed in a way to attract people who don't actually like MMOs. Which to me makes about as much sense as someone trying to figure out a way to get vegetarians to eat at their steakhouse.
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  • MothanosMothanos ArnhemPosts: 1,860Member Uncommon

    Yep thats what turned me away from AA.
    The strange shit that they implement like cars / pepsi machines in a fantasy world -_-
    it has nothing to do with not pleasing but its a little strange when playing inside a fantasy world and you see that shit.

    Immersion is what counts when playing games...
    And AA threw it all overboard for their cash shop.

  • AlBQuirkyAlBQuirky Sioux City, IAPosts: 3,828Member


    Originally posted by mcrippins
    Oh short sighted friends.. For those of you posting about immersion breaking due to people's creativity - may not find the sandbox to be the best place. Sandboxes are meant to inspire creativity, allow the players to control the world, and give them the utilities to build whatever it is they choose to build. Unless you're some kind of hardcore RP'er which most of you aren't, then you really have zero room to complain. First off, you haven't even played this game. You saw a couple of screenshots or a video and instantly judged it as if you've earned the right. You haven't. Shut up. There are a billion and one games out there that do not inspire any sort of creativity and will not break your precious 'theme' (which you never cared about before until someone else mentioned it). So please just leave these games to the people that really, really want them, and don't go yelling in our forums to make changes that already exist in other, lesser, games.
    So "creativity" to you means copying things already created?

    Did I NOT see a race car in the video? Did I not see bikinis and swimwear from this 20th century world? I do not need to play a game to make a judgement call from videos like these. Or are you the kind of person who touches the hot stove after your parents tell you it is hot, even though it glows red or has fire coming from it? You do realize that EVERY game maker wants EVERY game player to have your "I must try it first!" attitude? It sells more boxes that way. I do not have to buy a box to make a judgement call on how a game looks for my own personal tastes. I have saved a lot of money doing things *my* way.

    You can have Arch Age. Have fun. I won't be there :)

    - Al

    Personally the only modern MMORPG trend that annoys me is the idea that MMOs need to be designed in a way to attract people who don't actually like MMOs. Which to me makes about as much sense as someone trying to figure out a way to get vegetarians to eat at their steakhouse.
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  • KeksXKeksX NoNeedPosts: 47Member

    Haha, you guys never played korean MMOs before right?

    Stuff like this, where players get real life things in the game, is so common in korea... The only reason you could complain about this is that you just don't inform yourself properly. Yes WoW might not have it and LotRO doesn't have it and maybe ArcheAge EU/NA won't have it. but korean MMOs are full of that stuff because koreans love it.

    So take a deep breath, go beat a wall or something because this stuff is as normal as the "amen in the church".

     
  • mcrippinsmcrippins Dallas, TXPosts: 1,070Member Uncommon
    Originally posted by AlBQuirky

     


    Originally posted by mcrippins
    Oh short sighted friends.. For those of you posting about immersion breaking due to people's creativity - may not find the sandbox to be the best place. Sandboxes are meant to inspire creativity, allow the players to control the world, and give them the utilities to build whatever it is they choose to build. 

     

    Unless you're some kind of hardcore RP'er which most of you aren't, then you really have zero room to complain. First off, you haven't even played this game. You saw a couple of screenshots or a video and instantly judged it as if you've earned the right. You haven't. Shut up. There are a billion and one games out there that do not inspire any sort of creativity and will not break your precious 'theme' (which you never cared about before until someone else mentioned it). So please just leave these games to the people that really, really want them, and don't go yelling in our forums to make changes that already exist in other, lesser, games.


    So "creativity" to you means copying things already created?

     

    Did I NOT see a race car in the video? Did I not see bikinis and swimwear from this 20th century world? I do not need to play a game to make a judgement call from videos like these. Or are you the kind of person who touches the hot stove after your parents tell you it is hot, even though it glows red or has fire coming from it? You do realize that EVERY game maker wants EVERY game player to have your "I must try it first!" attitude? It sells more boxes that way. I do not have to buy a box to make a judgement call on how a game looks for my own personal tastes. I have saved a lot of money doing things *my* way.

    You can have Arch Age. Have fun. I won't be there :)

    Guilty as charged. I am absolutely one of those "I must try it first" types. I believe you learn from experience, not from imagining what it would be like. Luckily they offer beta type programs for those interested in trying before buying. Can't imagine being one of those people who sits back, reads a review, and doesn't try it simply because someone else didn't like it. Judges, Books, and Covers.

  • AlBQuirkyAlBQuirky Sioux City, IAPosts: 3,828Member


    Originally posted by mcrippins
    I am absolutely one of those "I must try it first" types. I believe you learn from experience, not from imagining what it would be like. Luckily they offer beta type programs for those interested in trying before buying. Can't imagine being one of those people who sits back, reads a review, and doesn't try it simply because someone else didn't like it. Judges, Books, and Covers.
    I can understand and appreciate your choice.

    I don't read "a review" as you imply. I read posts from those who play the games, watch videos if my interest in the game is enough, read reviews from many sources and take all that information into my decision.

    Do you automatically try every MMO released based solely on the publishers hype? Or do you do a little research before you decide to try? Why is your research (I am assuming you do research) more valid than mine?

    Betas are definitely getting easier to get into than used to be, especially if a player has money.

    - Al

    Personally the only modern MMORPG trend that annoys me is the idea that MMOs need to be designed in a way to attract people who don't actually like MMOs. Which to me makes about as much sense as someone trying to figure out a way to get vegetarians to eat at their steakhouse.
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  • akiira69akiira69 San Diego, CAPosts: 590Member Uncommon
    Originally posted by LlexX

    Some players just can't handle the sandbox elements and the freedom...

    But no worries, there are tons of WoW clones for them out there. bye.

    Really? Show me these "WoW Clones" cause as far as I know there isnt 1 single game that is a clone of WoW. There are some games that share features, but then again WOW shares the features of the games that came before it. And if sharing features of a game makes it a clone the WOW is a clone of Asheron's Call, Everquest, Ultima Online and Dungeons And Dragons.

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  • TreekodarTreekodar jlkjklPosts: 524Member
    Originally posted by Fendel84M
    All the non in game world relevant stuff breaks immersion for me though, personally. Running up to someones house in a High Fantasy world and seeing a pepsi machine and Scooby Doo paintings on the wall is a little disrupting.

    It's sci-fi.

    Eleanor Rigby.

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