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What if this game is so popular nobody plays the others?

burdock2burdock2 CanberraPosts: 409Member

Have we considered, that what if this game, the epitome of everquest awesomeness is SO good, that every single subscriber from BOTH EQ and EQ2 stop subbing or playing and the servers dry up as they are all playing EQn?

 

Would SOE close those games down so that this is the only EQ game on the market?

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  • ZinnabunZinnabun Coupeville, WAPosts: 9Member

    Well, yeah... If no one, not a single person, is playing, why would they keep the servers up?

     

  • azzamasinazzamasin Butler, OHPosts: 3,066Member Uncommon
    It'll never happen because people have different tastes.  I'll never understand why people play games like WoW, Rift or FFXIV but then again they say the same about me playing TSW, GW2 and Neverwinter. image

    Sandbox means open world, non-linear gaming PERIOD!

    Subscription Gaming, especially MMO gaming is a Cash grab bigger then the most P2W cash shop!

    Bring Back Exploration and lengthy progression times. RPG's have always been about the Journey not the destination!!!

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  • BatCakezBatCakez None O''ya Business, CAPosts: 127Member
    Originally posted by burdock2

    Have we considered, that what if this game, the epitome of everquest awesomeness is SO good, that every single subscriber from BOTH EQ and EQ2 stop subbing or playing and the servers dry up as they are all playing EQn?

     

    Would SOE close those games down so that this is the only EQ game on the market?

    Don't put all your apples into one basket just yet. Knowing SoE, I doubt they would shut the other games down. They've made it known how extremely greedy they can be. And that was before F2P. EQ2, before it went F2P, had a crap load of micro trans, for everything from pets, house decor, clothing, etc.

  • wizardanimwizardanim Apple Valley, CAPosts: 278Member

    Personally, I have put so much time into EQ that if EQN fills the holes for me, I'd just play EQN going forward.  EQ probably wont be around for all eternity - and this could be the start of the end.  

    With that said, their constant release of new content and expacs will probably pull old players back from time to time ...

    We will see though.

  • ZinnabunZinnabun Coupeville, WAPosts: 9Member

    Originally posted by azzamasin
    It'll never happen because people have different tastes.  I'll never understand why people play games like WoW, Rift or FFXIV but then again they say the same about me playing TSW, GW2 and Neverwinter. image

    Originally posted by BatCakez

    Originally posted by burdock2

    Have we considered, that what if this game, the epitome of everquest awesomeness is SO good, that every single subscriber from BOTH EQ and EQ2 stop subbing or playing and the servers dry up as they are all playing EQn?

     

    Would SOE close those games down so that this is the only EQ game on the market?

    Don't put all your apples into one basket just yet. Knowing SoE, I doubt they would shut the other games down. They've made it known how extremely greedy they can be. And that was before F2P. EQ2, before it went F2P, had a crap load of micro trans, for everything from pets, house decor, clothing, etc.

    OP asked a hypothetical question... Seriously... This is why this forums is overwhelmed with dumb discussions. 

    The HYPOTHETICAL QUESTION he asked was "What if this game is so popular nobody plays the others?"

    If that WERE to happen there is no reason why the servers should be up if NO ONE, as op said, is playing... 

  • BatCakezBatCakez None O''ya Business, CAPosts: 127Member
    Originally posted by Zinnabun

    Originally posted by azzamasin
    It'll never happen because people have different tastes.  I'll never understand why people play games like WoW, Rift or FFXIV but then again they say the same about me playing TSW, GW2 and Neverwinter. image

    Originally posted by BatCakez

    Originally posted by burdock2

    Have we considered, that what if this game, the epitome of everquest awesomeness is SO good, that every single subscriber from BOTH EQ and EQ2 stop subbing or playing and the servers dry up as they are all playing EQn?

     

    Would SOE close those games down so that this is the only EQ game on the market?

    Don't put all your apples into one basket just yet. Knowing SoE, I doubt they would shut the other games down. They've made it known how extremely greedy they can be. And that was before F2P. EQ2, before it went F2P, had a crap load of micro trans, for everything from pets, house decor, clothing, etc.

    OP asked a hypothetical question... Seriously... This is why this forums is overwhelmed with dumb discussions. 

    The HYPOTHETICAL QUESTION he asked was "What if this game is so popular nobody plays the others?"

    If that WERE to happen there is no reason why the servers should be up if NO ONE, as op said, is playing... 

     

  • MibletMiblet BognerPosts: 333Member

    If the player count were to drop too low on EQ and EQ2 then SOE would close the game down, I don't think anyone would doubt that, it wouldn't even require all the players leave just enough to make it unprofitable to run.  No company would continue running a game at a loss, they are in the business to make money.

    However it won't happen.  There are people who will not try out the game (I play EQ atm and there are quite a few who are happy enough with EQ currently, though they are worried about the potential impact of EQN).  I also don't see the game being similar enough to compete for the same customer tastes.  Having said that I can see EQ / EQ2 losing some players from this, regardless of whether or not they remain in EQN.

  • Loke666Loke666 MalmöPosts: 17,975Member Uncommon
    Originally posted by burdock2

    Have we considered, that what if this game, the epitome of everquest awesomeness is SO good, that every single subscriber from BOTH EQ and EQ2 stop subbing or playing and the servers dry up as they are all playing EQn?

    Would SOE close those games down so that this is the only EQ game on the market?

    Eh, if no-one plays those games who would miss them?

    Of course they would, a MMO with no players is just a waste of space. Maybe they would keep a single EQ1 server running just for old times sake....

  • DullahanDullahan Posts: 2,054Member Uncommon
    Originally posted by burdock2

    Have we considered, that what if this game, the epitome of everquest awesomeness is SO good, that every single subscriber from BOTH EQ and EQ2 stop subbing or playing and the servers dry up as they are all playing EQn?

     

    Would SOE close those games down so that this is the only EQ game on the market?

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  • ToxiaToxia Lake Charles, LAPosts: 1,319Member Uncommon

    What if the game is such a fail of epic proportions that everyone across all 3 games becomes so jaded by its very existence they quit playing any of them. Ya think they'll shut down all the games? image

     

     

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  • DoogiehowserDoogiehowser ParisPosts: 1,873Member
    Originally posted by burdock2

    Have we considered, that what if this game, the epitome of everquest awesomeness is SO good, that every single subscriber from BOTH EQ and EQ2 stop subbing or playing and the servers dry up as they are all playing EQn?

     

    Would SOE close those games down so that this is the only EQ game on the market?

    I will never quit playing EQ2, i still play EQ every now and then. 

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  • SuperPanekiSuperPaneki New York, NYPosts: 62Member
    I expect that from Titan, not from EQ. From SOE, I expect a new fail like Galaxies or EQ 2.
  • OG_ZorvanOG_Zorvan Fresno, CAPosts: 615Member
    Originally posted by burdock2

    Have we considered, that what if this game, the epitome of everquest awesomeness is SO good, that every single subscriber from BOTH EQ and EQ2 stop subbing or playing and the servers dry up as they are all playing EQn?

     

    Would SOE close those games down so that this is the only EQ game on the market?

    EQ2 didn't kill EQ and EQNext won't kill EQ or EQ2.

    And just for the record, EQNext won't kill any other game either.

     

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  • CaldrinCaldrin CwmbranPosts: 4,533Member Uncommon
    Originally posted by burdock2

    Have we considered, that what if this game, the epitome of everquest awesomeness is SO good, that every single subscriber from BOTH EQ and EQ2 stop subbing or playing and the servers dry up as they are all playing EQn?

     

    Would SOE close those games down so that this is the only EQ game on the market?

    not everyone is going to like this game or any game for that matter.

     

  • BrucyBonusBrucyBonus londonPosts: 220Member

    Imagine if it sucked in players from every other game as well, and if rather than watching TV or going to the cinema people were just playing EQ Next.  What if people stopped going to work and whole economies shut down.  Public services no longer functioned and the military was taken over by sentient robots?  

    We must stop this game now before it can do any more damage! 

  • SavageHorizonSavageHorizon ParisPosts: 2,073Member Uncommon
    Originally posted by OG_Zorvan
    Originally posted by burdock2

    Have we considered, that what if this game, the epitome of everquest awesomeness is SO good, that every single subscriber from BOTH EQ and EQ2 stop subbing or playing and the servers dry up as they are all playing EQn?

     

    Would SOE close those games down so that this is the only EQ game on the market?

    EQ2 didn't kill EQ and EQNext won't kill EQ or EQ2.

    And just for the record, EQNext won't kill any other game either.

     

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  • ice-vortexice-vortex Xenia, OHPosts: 951Member
    I think EQNext could possibly hurt the sales of games that are going to release soon such as ArcheAge, TESO, and Wildstar if it is released before or near the same time as them.
  • NadiaNadia Canonsburg, PAPosts: 11,866Member Common

    i dont think EQN is even on the radar of most mmo players

     

    theres been practically no press coverage outside of here and joystiq (massively)

     

    when SOE does make a splash on 08/02  -- it will take time for word to spread

     

    even w full info EQN available,

    many gamers are happy w their existing friends in current mmos

     

  • SavageHorizonSavageHorizon ParisPosts: 2,073Member Uncommon
    Originally posted by ice-vortex
    I think EQNext could possibly hurt the sales of games that are going to release soon such as ArcheAge, TESO, and Wildstar if it is released before or near the same time as them.

    Are you drunk lol, really think about what you are saying where TESO is concerned. Now that the game is coming out on consoles you really think that ZeniMax are going to struggle with TESO.

    As for AA, well that all depends on what route EQN goes, if they don't turn EQN into what you want, IE EVE in Norrath then AA will be a great option for the PVPers.

    Wildstar perhaps but TESO, you are joking, right?

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  • hMJemhMJem Marysville, WAPosts: 465Member
    Originally posted by azzamasin
    It'll never happen because people have different tastes.  I'll never understand why people play games like WoW, Rift or FFXIV but then again they say the same about me playing TSW, GW2 and Neverwinter. image

    Neverwinter is an atrocious game, sorry. Pay to win to the core, get rooted during combat.. It's a horrible game and a horrible excuse for end-game "End-game? THROW MORE MOBS AT THE PERSON" Those are such lazy mechanics. "Well, we have no unique ideas.. So lets have boss fights just have MOREEEEE ADDS!"

  • hMJemhMJem Marysville, WAPosts: 465Member
    Originally posted by SavageHorizon
    Originally posted by ice-vortex
    I think EQNext could possibly hurt the sales of games that are going to release soon such as ArcheAge, TESO, and Wildstar if it is released before or near the same time as them.

    Are you drunk lol, really think about what you are saying where TESO is concerned. Now that the game is coming out on consoles you really think that ZeniMax are going to struggle with TESO.

    As for AA, well that all depends on what route EQN goes, if they don't turn EQN into what you want, IE EVE in Norrath then AA will be a great option for the PVPers.

    Wildstar perhaps but TESO, you are joking, right?

    Considering TESO is also likely going box + subscription to play, then Everquest Next can definitely damage those games if they pull off Everquest Next.

     

    I would tell any friend picking between TESO and Everquest Next -- Why not try Everquest Next first, as it's free to play and you wont need to buy the game and subscribe to it hoping you like it? And if you dont like EQN, you can try ESO or another game.

     

    You can essentially have the MMORPG market go through EQN before it gets to ESO.

  • CaldrinCaldrin CwmbranPosts: 4,533Member Uncommon
    Originally posted by SavageHorizon
    Originally posted by ice-vortex
    I think EQNext could possibly hurt the sales of games that are going to release soon such as ArcheAge, TESO, and Wildstar if it is released before or near the same time as them.

    Are you drunk lol, really think about what you are saying where TESO is concerned. Now that the game is coming out on consoles you really think that ZeniMax are going to struggle with TESO.

    As for AA, well that all depends on what route EQN goes, if they don't turn EQN into what you want, IE EVE in Norrath then AA will be a great option for the PVPers.

    Wildstar perhaps but TESO, you are joking, right?

    what makes you think that an MMO on a console is going to do really well?

     

  • OG_ZorvanOG_Zorvan Fresno, CAPosts: 615Member
    Originally posted by Caldrin
    Originally posted by SavageHorizon
    Originally posted by ice-vortex
    I think EQNext could possibly hurt the sales of games that are going to release soon such as ArcheAge, TESO, and Wildstar if it is released before or near the same time as them.

    Are you drunk lol, really think about what you are saying where TESO is concerned. Now that the game is coming out on consoles you really think that ZeniMax are going to struggle with TESO.

    As for AA, well that all depends on what route EQN goes, if they don't turn EQN into what you want, IE EVE in Norrath then AA will be a great option for the PVPers.

    Wildstar perhaps but TESO, you are joking, right?

    what makes you think that an MMO on a console is going to do really well?

     

    Especially since you not only have to pay the fee for the game itself, but also have to pay for PSN+ or XboneLive as they are required to play anything  online for PS4 or XboneDone and I really don't see EQNext or TESO running on PS3/360 hardware.

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  • DMKanoDMKano Gamercentral, AKPosts: 8,536Member Uncommon
    Originally posted by OG_Zorvan
    Originally posted by Caldrin
    Originally posted by SavageHorizon
    Originally posted by ice-vortex
    I think EQNext could possibly hurt the sales of games that are going to release soon such as ArcheAge, TESO, and Wildstar if it is released before or near the same time as them.

    Are you drunk lol, really think about what you are saying where TESO is concerned. Now that the game is coming out on consoles you really think that ZeniMax are going to struggle with TESO.

    As for AA, well that all depends on what route EQN goes, if they don't turn EQN into what you want, IE EVE in Norrath then AA will be a great option for the PVPers.

    Wildstar perhaps but TESO, you are joking, right?

    what makes you think that an MMO on a console is going to do really well?

     

    Especially since you not only have to pay the fee for the game itself, but also have to pay for PSN+ or XboneLive as they are required to play anything  online for PS4 or XboneDone and I really don't see EQNext or TESO running on PS3/360 hardware.

    Some online console games have managed to do away with online service fees - Defiance on Xbox 360, online play does not require XboxLive gold membership, zero additional fees, even though the client still connects through Microsoft's Live service.

     

     

     

  • OG_ZorvanOG_Zorvan Fresno, CAPosts: 615Member
    Originally posted by DMKano
    Originally posted by OG_Zorvan
    Originally posted by Caldrin
    Originally posted by SavageHorizon
    Originally posted by ice-vortex
    I think EQNext could possibly hurt the sales of games that are going to release soon such as ArcheAge, TESO, and Wildstar if it is released before or near the same time as them.

    Are you drunk lol, really think about what you are saying where TESO is concerned. Now that the game is coming out on consoles you really think that ZeniMax are going to struggle with TESO.

    As for AA, well that all depends on what route EQN goes, if they don't turn EQN into what you want, IE EVE in Norrath then AA will be a great option for the PVPers.

    Wildstar perhaps but TESO, you are joking, right?

    what makes you think that an MMO on a console is going to do really well?

     

    Especially since you not only have to pay the fee for the game itself, but also have to pay for PSN+ or XboneLive as they are required to play anything  online for PS4 or XboneDone and I really don't see EQNext or TESO running on PS3/360 hardware.

    Some online console games have managed to do away with online service fees - Defiance on Xbox 360, online play does not require XboxLive gold membership, zero additional fees, even though the client still connects through Microsoft's Live service.

     

     

     

    PS3 does not require PSN+ for online play at all. 360 does not require Xbox live gold for every game.

    PS4 and Xbone both require those services for ANY online play.

    Will they make exceptions? Maybe. But given what i've seen of the "next gen" so far, i doubt it.

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