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[Column] Final Fantasy XIV: A Realm Reborn: Five Good Things

SBFordSBFord Former Associate EditorMember LegendaryPosts: 33,129

Now that the NDA is partially lifted, we have much to say about Square Enix's Final Fantasy XIV: A Realm Reborn. During our time in game, we discovered five great things about FFXIV: ARR. See what they are and then leave your ideas in the comments.

In its initial form, MMO's tended to be one character playing one class.  That single class often filled a single role.  In the modern form, classes and roles are a lot more fluid and FFXIV:ARR is no exception.  They have retained the armory system from 1.0, in armory you change your class simply by changing your weapon.  Running Gladiator but your party needs a Conjurer?  Put on a staff and, assuming you took the time to level up the conjurer class, you are now the party's conjurer.

Read more of Ryahl Smith's Eorzea Reborn: Five Good Things.

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  • ironhelixironhelix Member Posts: 448
    The game is SO good, that I stopped playing the beta early on so that I didn't experience too much content before I got to keep my character. It did not take long to see that this was going to be a quality game.
  • ScivaSciva Member UncommonPosts: 298
    Originally posted by ironhelix
    The game is SO good, that I stopped playing the beta early on so that I didn't experience too much content before I got to keep my character. It did not take long to see that this was going to be a quality game.

    I did the exact same thing, i did report some bugs so my slot wasn't wasted else i'd feel bad.

  • RandomCasualtyRandomCasualty Member UncommonPosts: 327

    Funny, me three!

    A little help with it being only on weekends (my play time is during the week), but this is shaping up really well compared to 1.0

    Looking for ward to a pay to play game

  • RohnRohn Member UncommonPosts: 3,730

    The game is more of the same.  Nothing really new to the genre: "kill X of Y" questing, slow tab-targetting combat, etc.

    It's not terrible, but it's also nothing special - another clone in a sea of clones.

    Hell hath no fury like an MMORPG player scorned.

  • QSatuQSatu Member UncommonPosts: 1,795
    The game definitely is somehow outdated in some aspects but I guess many people miss those elements in newer games, especially on this forum full of nostalgia. =p
  • Anfere31Anfere31 Member UncommonPosts: 48

    I can't agree more with this review. The game is just mind blowing. I love OldSchool MMO's with the level of polish and innovation of a 2013 MMO. The story is very well done, the class/job system is pretty awsome and everything is pretty good.

    Can't wait for the release, this game is the best i played in the last couple of years.

  • ElirionLothElirionLoth Member UncommonPosts: 308
    Originally posted by Lobotomist
    [mod edit]

     

    Lol, that is the best argument ever. 

     

    I guess I've never played an MMO before and come from 2001.  Wow, I didn't even realize that until you told me.

     

    Just to blow your theory out of the water, here are my stats:

     

    1)  Only played one FF title before this ie not a FF fanboy.

    2)  No one has ever payed me to post anything (I am accepting offers though).

    3)  Never taken a crazy pill that I know of.

    4)  I've played a lot of MMOs before this one.  My favorites are sand box not theme park.

    5)  I was alive in 2001 but did not come here directly from 2001 (I assume this is what you are insinuating).

     

    AND I like this game.  Go figure.

     

  • MardukkMardukk Member RarePosts: 2,222
    My guess is that there are a lot of FF fans out there making them more tolerant of this unoriginal/overused design.  Also the game appears to be highly polished and the graphics are nice which may be all some people want from a new release.
  • RohnRohn Member UncommonPosts: 3,730
    Originally posted by QSatu
    The game definitely is somehow outdated in some aspects but I guess many people miss those elements in newer games, especially on this forum full of nostalgia. =p

     

    It's not really hearkening back to an older time, given it has the "streamlining" systems that have made most modern themeparks the overly-simplified garbage they have become, like quest-helper circles on the (horrible) map, easy fast travel/teleporting all over the place, simple combat, tiny linear zones, lots of instancing, etc.

    Hell hath no fury like an MMORPG player scorned.

  • SeariasSearias Member UncommonPosts: 743

    I found myself enjoying Final Fantasy 14 ARR a lot. It brought back my memories as a kid playing all those other final fantasy games. I hear that, "Yoshi-P has stated in the past that he would like to add famous and recognizable bosses from past FF titles into the game as Fate monsters", which is going to be extremely cool.

    It doesn't really matter to me what others say. All I can say is that I enjoy the game and will continue to enjoy it as long as possible. And the payment model doesn't bother me one bit, I work and can afford it :).

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  • TiconzTiconz Member UncommonPosts: 120

    I got over the nostalgia pretty quick.  Been a long time fan of the Final Fantasy series and a huge fan of XI but I can't seem to get over how slow the combat feels.  No off GCD abilities and a very boring GCD combat system.  I do like the fact that they finally have chocobos as mounts.  It was very annoying to be playing 1.0 and seeing all the stables but no mounts.  Going to have to pass on the game for it has become too westernized for my tastes.  Wish the best of Squares Enix though... I grew up playing Squaresoft games.  

    +1 for the community though!  <3


  • YaevinduskYaevindusk Member RarePosts: 2,094

     

    This is a fairly good write up.  Kudos to the writer.

    Due to frequent travel in my youth, English isn't something I consider my primary language (and thus I obtained quirky ways of writing).  German and French were always easier for me despite my family being U.S. citizens for over a century.  Spanish I learned as a requirement in school, Japanese and Korean I acquired for my youthful desire of anime and gaming (and also work now).  I only debate in English to help me work with it (and limit things).  In addition, I'm not smart enough to remain fluent in everything and typically need exposure to get in the groove of things again if I haven't heard it in a while.  If you understand Mandarin, I know a little, but it has actually been a challenge and could use some help.

    Also, I thoroughly enjoy debates and have accounts on over a dozen sites for this.  If you wish to engage in such, please put effort in a post and provide sources -- I will then do the same with what I already wrote (if I didn't) as well as with my responses to your own.  Expanding my information on a subject makes my stance either change or strengthen the next time I speak of it or write a thesis.  Allow me to thank you sincerely for your time.
  • RaxeonRaxeon Member UncommonPosts: 2,283
    Originally posted by Rohn

    The game is more of the same.  Nothing really new to the genre: "kill X of Y" questing, slow tab-targetting combat, etc.

    It's not terrible, but it's also nothing special - another clone in a sea of clones.

    you do run out the kill x and y quest after your first class or 2 then you have to do the other content

  • YaevinduskYaevindusk Member RarePosts: 2,094
    Originally posted by Rohn

    The game is more of the same.  Nothing really new to the genre: "kill X of Y" questing, slow tab-targetting combat, etc.

    It's not terrible, but it's also nothing special - another clone in a sea of clones.

     

    I'd just like to note that "Kill X of Y" quests pretty much stop before level 5.  They go out of their way to try and make every quest a little different (be it side quest or main story) from ones they've already done.  It's just that one Combat Guild quest the requires you to show you have what it takes to join them.

     

    Due to frequent travel in my youth, English isn't something I consider my primary language (and thus I obtained quirky ways of writing).  German and French were always easier for me despite my family being U.S. citizens for over a century.  Spanish I learned as a requirement in school, Japanese and Korean I acquired for my youthful desire of anime and gaming (and also work now).  I only debate in English to help me work with it (and limit things).  In addition, I'm not smart enough to remain fluent in everything and typically need exposure to get in the groove of things again if I haven't heard it in a while.  If you understand Mandarin, I know a little, but it has actually been a challenge and could use some help.

    Also, I thoroughly enjoy debates and have accounts on over a dozen sites for this.  If you wish to engage in such, please put effort in a post and provide sources -- I will then do the same with what I already wrote (if I didn't) as well as with my responses to your own.  Expanding my information on a subject makes my stance either change or strengthen the next time I speak of it or write a thesis.  Allow me to thank you sincerely for your time.
  • RaxeonRaxeon Member UncommonPosts: 2,283
    but the game isnt for everyone some people cant stand the tba target anymore but i havent been able to get into a action mmo yet
  • RaxeonRaxeon Member UncommonPosts: 2,283
    Originally posted by Rohn
    Originally posted by QSatu
    The game definitely is somehow outdated in some aspects but I guess many people miss those elements in newer games, especially on this forum full of nostalgia. =p

     

    It's not really hearkening back to an older time, given it has the "streamlining" systems that have made most modern themeparks the overly-simplified garbage they have become, like quest-helper circles on the (horrible) map, easy fast travel/teleporting all over the place, simple combat, tiny linear zones, lots of instancing, etc.

     

    the thing you dont seem to be understanding the combat STARTS out simple then it gets more COMPLEX as you get more skills form other classes its intended this way to ease newer mmos players into the game

  • jazz.bejazz.be Member UncommonPosts: 962

    5.

    Wow, there really is a mental challenge? That sounds interesting

  • CoolitCoolit Member UncommonPosts: 661

    I've been enjoying the betas and find the Final Fantasy setting quite refreshing and very unique. I think SE has done a remarkable job going from 1.0 to ARR and I'll definitely be checking it out at launch.

     

    Ryahl that was an interesting article, please feel free to write some more :)

  • faiyofaiyo Member Posts: 123
    I really want to play the beta and I'm pretty sure I'm going to have fun/like the game, but people are going to hurt this game by hyping it up so much. 
  • deviltheorydeviltheory Member Posts: 33
    I was in the beta but forgot my logon id lol.  I tried to retrieve it but the system they had set up was so frustrating I gave up.  Just gonna wait for open beta and make a new account now.
  • OzivoisOzivois Member UncommonPosts: 598

    Sounds like a great game but the one-character-fits-all class system kinda worries me. No one is unique and to me being unique is something I can hang my hat on; being just another player you can expect alot of back-seat driving from other players who "know better than you". Expect being relegated to dps role in PUGs and being bullied into playing roles you don't prefer.

    This argument is just like arguing politics, to me this class-by-equipment deal is akin to socialism, and not in a good way. 

  • KhebelnKhebeln Member UncommonPosts: 794
    Originally posted by Ozivois

    Sounds like a great game but the one-character-fits-all class system kinda worries me. No one is unique and to me being unique is something I can hang my hat on; being just another player you can expect alot of back-seat driving from other players who "know better than you". Expect being relegated to dps role in PUGs and being bullied into playing roles you don't prefer.

    This argument is just like arguing politics, to me this class-by-equipment deal is akin to socialism, and not in a good way. 

    Thats lame argument, there are lots of mmos with similar system, or open system. Just  take your pick. Rifit, Tsw, Eve from newer ones Ultima Online from older ones ?

    For me this is one of the best things about the game as i hate alts and the moment i roll one i quit the game.

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  • gessekai332gessekai332 Member UncommonPosts: 861
    Originally posted by Ozivois

    Sounds like a great game but the one-character-fits-all class system kinda worries me. No one is unique and to me being unique is something I can hang my hat on; being just another player you can expect alot of back-seat driving from other players who "know better than you". Expect being relegated to dps role in PUGs and being bullied into playing roles you don't prefer.

    This argument is just like arguing politics, to me this class-by-equipment deal is akin to socialism, and not in a good way. 

    you can't be bullied into a role if you dont have it leveled up yet. no one is going to expect you to heal when your healer lvl is 5 and your warrior main is lvl 30. all the system does is to make you attached to your character since you dont need to make alts, you just keep everything on the same character.

    Most memorable games: AoC(Tryanny PvP), RIFT, GW, GW2, Ragnarok Online, Aion, FFXI, FFXIV, Secret World, League of Legends (Silver II rank)

  • YaevinduskYaevindusk Member RarePosts: 2,094
    Originally posted by ElirionLoth
    Originally posted by Lobotomist
    [mod edit]

     

    Lol, that is the best argument ever. 

     I guess I've never played an MMO before and come from 2001.  Wow, I didn't even realize that until you told me.

     Just to blow your theory out of the water, here are my stats:

     

    1)  Only played one FF title before this ie not a FF fanboy.

    2)  No one has ever payed me to post anything (I am accepting offers though).

    3)  Never taken a crazy pill that I know of.

    4)  I've played a lot of MMOs before this one.  My favorites are sand box not theme park.

    5)  I was alive in 2001 but did not come here directly from 2001 (I assume this is what you are insinuating).

     

    AND I like this game.  Go figure.

     

     

    Yeah, there was a lot wrong with his post in my opinion.

    1)  He called others crazy for not having the same tastes as he does (or shills)

    2) He admitted to uninstalling the game quickly, which shows he doesn't have any real experience with the game and just uses the "been around the block" argument and "played one mmo, played them" mentality.

    3) He makes assertions that the only people who can like it have never played a MMO or are from "2001" (What does that even mean?).

     

    I've been playing MMOs since Ultima Online, and I really only got sold on this game by level 15 when I saw the real soul of the game through it's continuously unlocked features, difficulty / party play and many other features.  It's just sad today there there are people who don't have patience; MMOs tend to yield to said people just to cater to them.  There are so many posts asking to nerf the 15+ difficulty on the forums that it's getting kind've depressing.

     

    :(

    Due to frequent travel in my youth, English isn't something I consider my primary language (and thus I obtained quirky ways of writing).  German and French were always easier for me despite my family being U.S. citizens for over a century.  Spanish I learned as a requirement in school, Japanese and Korean I acquired for my youthful desire of anime and gaming (and also work now).  I only debate in English to help me work with it (and limit things).  In addition, I'm not smart enough to remain fluent in everything and typically need exposure to get in the groove of things again if I haven't heard it in a while.  If you understand Mandarin, I know a little, but it has actually been a challenge and could use some help.

    Also, I thoroughly enjoy debates and have accounts on over a dozen sites for this.  If you wish to engage in such, please put effort in a post and provide sources -- I will then do the same with what I already wrote (if I didn't) as well as with my responses to your own.  Expanding my information on a subject makes my stance either change or strengthen the next time I speak of it or write a thesis.  Allow me to thank you sincerely for your time.
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