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[Editorial] Rift: Hitting Its Stride in F2P

SBFordSBFord Associate Editor - News ManagerThe Land of AZPosts: 16,581MMORPG.COM Staff Uncommon

Rift has been officially free to play for a couple of weeks now. We've been playing the game as a F2P-er and have some first impressions to offer up about our time in Rift. See what we think and then leave your thoughts in the comments.

What makes Rift’s F2P conversion so amazingly special is the fact that servers are once again packed. Granted, there are fewer servers but that’s a good thing as the populations are consolidated making PvP better, raiding better, rifting better and more.

Read more of Suzie Ford's Rift: Hitting Its Stride in F2P.

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  • blix2006blix2006 interlachen, FLPosts: 300Member
    cant agree more..this has been the best conversion to f2p i have ever experienced.
  • BattlerockBattlerock Youngstown, OHPosts: 1,393Member
    I have a few rules of thumb when it comes to accepting f2p. Rift on the outer layer fits for f2p because of my rule that it is ok for a game to be f2p if it's prime is passed.

    F2p is good for rift too because more people will actually download and check the game out. If they had to sub, well then not many people would bother.

    This leads into ine of my other rules in that f2p is ok if the game just isnt good enough to merit a sub. In this case that is also true. I know thats subjective but for the most part its true. Rift is after all a less fluid wow clone with more realistic graphics that become exhausting to look at after a few days.

  • CRISMICRISMI ARADPosts: 8Member
    Great game.
  • marz.at.playmarz.at.play Mississauga, ONPosts: 912Member
    Loving it all over again!

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  • DMKanoDMKano Gamercentral, AKPosts: 8,496Member Uncommon

    I have had a sub in Rift since launch, and I still have a patron pass. Rift is my #1 themepark game by far, the class system is just pure genius.

    I have to agree with F2P conversion, its been a blast for me as a subscriber.

    Also a note to new or returning players - by all means level up to 48 so you can check out Storm Legion, some amazing events there - Volan encounter is worth experiencing first hand, its epic.

  • Master.RyuMaster.Ryu Death Valley, NCPosts: 52Member
    Originally posted by DMKano

    I have had a sub in Rift since launch, and I still have a patron pass. Rift is my #1 themepark game by far, the class system is just pure genius.

    I have to agree with F2P conversion, its been a blast for me as a subscriber.

     

    Agreed, though I don't do subscriptions, I'm loving it. I am to the point where I wouldn't mind throwing a bit of money to help if I had some though.

  • FreezzoFreezzo EnschedePosts: 235Member

    I really like the F2P conversion. Still subbed and going to stay that way for a while. I'm enjoying playing the game with a lot of people once again.

    Also do note that every item from the shop that's purchaseable in-game can be bought through the cash-shop (so to speak) for in-game currency as well. No need even to look for the right vendor.

    "We need men who can dream of things that never were." - John F. Kennedy
    And for MMORPGs ever so true...

  • Badgered86Badgered86 Denver, COPosts: 175Member

    I haven't played the game since launch, but a few friends decided to pick it up once it went F2P so I redownloaded it to check it out.

    I'm pretty impressed with the huge amount of changes made to the game from the last time I played (River of Souls). My once level-capped mage is a lot of fun to play and the mentoring system is extremely useful for getting new players into the game. I'm looking forward to dungeon crawling with my lower level friends and getting to re-live the early days of the game while preparing them for the new content that none of us have seen.

    Good job Trion.

  • black_isleblack_isle IstanbulPosts: 238Member Uncommon
    Great f2p model but as much as i want to like rift, it's incredibly dull and uninspired zones bores me to tears and i just log off after completing bunch of quests. I mean going through stonefield then that canyon like zone and then scarlet gorge(?) made me just stop playing. Only decent zone in the game so far has been freemarch for me. Checked the guardian side too. Dungeon queues not popping for hours didn't help either. But kudos for being level-headed devs and making a great f2p model.
  • itchmonitchmon west islip, NYPosts: 1,714Member Uncommon

    it's still the best themepark out there IMHO; not bad for a dev company's first attempt :)

    as soon as they put a new starting zone in there for both factions i'll pop back in with my wallet open (i've done each of the current ones 4x and if i start again i want to start a brand new character)

     

    RIP Ribbitribbitt you are missed, kid.

    Currently Playing EVE, DFUW

    Every gun that is made, every warship launched, every rocket fired signifies, in the final sense, a theft from those who hunger and are not fed, those who are cold and not clothed.

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    Henry Rollins

  • FreezzoFreezzo EnschedePosts: 235Member
    Originally posted by itchmon

    it's still the best themepark out there IMHO; not bad for a dev company's first attempt :)

    as soon as they put a new starting zone in there for both factions i'll pop back in with my wallet open (i've done each of the current ones 4x and if i start again i want to start a brand new character)

    First of all you probably know that's never going to happen. Secondly you can level through instant adventures and pvp past the starting zone (assuming you mean Freemarch/Silverwood) really fast now.

    The pure starting zone (mathosia and the defiant one) is reduced to basically nothing and my fastest time there is 12 minutes (defiant zone) :P

    "We need men who can dream of things that never were." - John F. Kennedy
    And for MMORPGs ever so true...

  • MargraveMargrave Knoxville, TNPosts: 633Member Uncommon
    Loving my rifting again.
  • TerranahTerranah Stockton, CAPosts: 3,605Member

    I'm still playing Rift.  I think it's been 4 months now.  I refuse to look at time played because I know I will be embarrassed at how many hours I've played.

     

    I'm still paying a sub.  That could change in the future, but at least for now I'm enjoying the bonuses.  The Rift store is the best f2p store I have seen.  I bought more bank space, more bag space, more wardrobe slots, some clothing, and a mount for a very reasonable price, saving me 1k of in game plat.  Some of that was purchased with money Trion gave me when the game converted to f2p but I dropped $50 into game credits rationalizing it's how much I would pay if I were to buy a full fledged expansion. 

     

    I still have maybe half of those credits left.  I'll probably use them to buy trade skill expansions so I won't have to keep alt hopping.  It will also give me something to do.

     

    One of the other nice features of the f2p system is the loyalty system.  When the game converted I got some freebies like an extra dimension slot which is something I was really wanting, a free dimension, anew mount, bonuses to xp, coin, rep, etc. 

     

    The server I am playing on is very healthy too.  It's nice seeing more people :)

     

    Yup, if you are going to convert to a f2p, this is without a doubt the best conversion I have seen to date.

     

     

  • ThorkuneThorkune Eastern, KYPosts: 1,828Member Uncommon
    Originally posted by blix2006
    cant agree more..this has been the best conversion to f2p i have ever experienced.

    My thoughts exactly. I am thoroughly enjoying myself in Rift!

  • Po_ggPo_gg Twigwarren, WestfarthingPosts: 2,714Member Uncommon

    (a short off: LotRO's f2p wasn't bad at all, especially back at the time and for previous subscribers... in fact with a 1month sub it's still a very decent model)

     

    There was a thread when Rift switched, I wrote in there my very first impressions, and it's pretty much the same after the weeks: it's an awesome model.

    I liked when in the announcement they stabbed a quick one in TOR (with not restricting anything and not jacking up the xp curve :) ), and they're holding up to it. Actually they did the exact opposite approach as EAware, and I think it will serve them better on the long run.

    I mean, both games have a pretty big gap between free and subscribing players. TOR made it in a negative way (subs have the former game, free ones are restricted), Rift did the opposite, free players have the former game, and patrons receive extras like the boosted <everything> (xp, gold, reputation, etc), daily / weekly gifts, and the instant mail / bank / ah (which alone is a huge convenience boost, at least for a hoarder like myself)

    Add to that the REX option, where both free and patron players can further advance the veteran status, and free ones can get store currency with in-game currency - and you get a very friendly f2p model. No wonder that maybe it was the smoothest f2p transition so far, there were almost no bashing on the web :) (probably the gear-in-the-box issue was the only one, calling it pay2win, but even that isn't affecting the game much)

  • TheLizardbonesTheLizardbones Arkham, VAPosts: 10,910Member

    Well, I guess we'll find out if F2P can work without having any actual pay wall barriers to game play.

    I can not remember winning or losing a single debate on the internet.

  • Open-World PvP, hello!

     

    The best part..

    "Chat channels are humming with activity, enough so that I turned of global chat to be able to avoid some of the overly exuberant chatters in the game. " 

  • George_LPGeorge_LP AthensPosts: 20Member
    i joined rift with my friends almost two weeks now and we really enjoy the game it is very nice and we dont need to do any purchace from the store(credits)..the only dissapointment is that some guys spam at chat about wow and wow and wow that must stop :D i cannot ignore all the time xD
  • JorlJorl SunderlandPosts: 257Member
    I started playing again, just dinged to 40 last night on my first defiant character. I like the way they made it so that both Guardian and defiant players can play together and even be in the same guild. I decided to sub to it because the changes they made since I last played at release is just amazing. Well done Trion.
  • ManestreamManestream PrestonPosts: 631Member Uncommon

    I have had a lot of bad experiances with F2P games, most so that I was avoiding them at all costs, reason, eventually forced to use item shop and the cost would be ridiculous and also end up being 3, 4 or 5 times more expensive than a monthly fee used to be. It was also buy to stay in touch or lose out.

    The first game I have actually touched that has been F2P is Neverwinter, I do a lot of grinding and convert items and other things into item store currency. It does take a lot of working, but I only do what I get on my journey.

    Lotro left that when it went F2P, tried it for all of a week in F2P and have never been back since. Account was with codemasters who ran the EU side, I had forgotten my PW and could not log back in, its now changed (I believe) and my account I had and everything has been lost (no e-mail received other than the one from codemasters saying it was moving over). Will I go back, nope, not if it means paying again for what I once already had. There have been many other F2P games I have been in and not been in and a lot of word of mouth to avoid.

    I do not know about Rift as of yet, there must be a catch somewhere, they carnt go from P2P to F2p and not have some sort of catch where you will have to use the item shop eventually?

    Sorry but past experiances say this and it will take time for this sort of thing to become trusted again. In the past its been F2P = grind as much out of players as we can before we finally turn the servers off.

  • itchmonitchmon west islip, NYPosts: 1,714Member Uncommon
    Originally posted by lizardbones

    Well, I guess we'll find out if F2P can work without having any actual pay wall barriers to game play.

    rift isnt the first; aion and L2 also operate this way.

     

    (rift is better than aion though and l2 is a different type of game than rift)

    RIP Ribbitribbitt you are missed, kid.

    Currently Playing EVE, DFUW

    Every gun that is made, every warship launched, every rocket fired signifies, in the final sense, a theft from those who hunger and are not fed, those who are cold and not clothed.

    Dwight D Eisenhower

    My optimism wears heavy boots and is loud.

    Henry Rollins

  • ArthasmArthasm LoznicaPosts: 754Member Uncommon
    Suzzie, one question: Did you feel like you're not in Azeroth anymore? :D
  • WizardryWizardry Ontario, CanadaPosts: 8,424Member Uncommon

    I don't really want to turn this into RIFT good or bad but i was subbed once and couldn't last until the end of the month.I tried pretty hard to like the game but i just kept getting bored very quickly.

    However no matter what i think about the game,the topic is about F2p.

    They did something i highly commend them for the initial entry into the game.You don't need an account,you can trial the game as a guest,which imo is a brilliant idea,surprised nobody else thought of that.Now i do realize there can be a lot of cons to that idea but as a developer trying to get people to try their game,it is a win win.This only lasts 10 levels before you have to register but it is still a good way to get a feel for the game because having played it,i can say it doesn't change much after you begin to add other classes to your arsenal.

     


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  • OzmodanOzmodan Hilliard, OHPosts: 7,181Member Uncommon

    "the frighteningly zone-locked Lord of the Rings Online for horrendous examples of free-to-play transitioning gone bad"

    Come on Suzie, the zone locking in Lotro was easy to remove.  I still find the Lotro implementation to be one of the best moves to  ftp, besides just subbing for a month unlocked a lot of things.  SWTOR is much worse.

    First time I have tried Rift and they did do a good implementation of ftp.  Their IOS security app is broken though.  Fun game.  

  • theWockytheWocky Port ElizabethPosts: 1Member
    Some people have said Rift is not worth subbing too. I disagree. I think the main issue that it isn't worth subbing too as an additional mmo sub per month - if you're a WoW player, you're not going to move - especially if your friends won't, but with the F2P model, you may be enticed to do so and friends may too as their is zero financial risk. It is the only logical way Trion can succeed in my opinion in growing their player base and showing off what an exceptionally polished game it is. Which mmo is better? The one you have most fun playing. The game does appear to be bustling with activity and I do have many YouTube videos on the game in my channel.
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