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lots of gamers make sick sarcastic jokes, but one guy is facing 8 years for his comment
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its pure idiocy to lock him up but he made the comment on FACEBOOK - not in a videogame
http://globalnews.ca/news/679742/u-s-teen-jailed-for-terrorist-threats-after-comments-he-made-on-facebook/
18-year-old Justin Carter engaged in an argument on Facebook over the online game “League of Legends” in February when another user started calling him crazy and saying he was “messed up in the head.”
http://www.wetpaint.com/moms/articles/2013-06-28-facebook-comment-teen-prison
19-year-old Justin Carter had just finished a game of League of Legends when he became involved in a conversation with someone on Facebook.
Teen faces 8 years in prison for making a (terrifying) Facebook joke
http://now.msn.com/justin-carter-teen-faces-prison-for-facebook-sarcastic-threat
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The prison system is corrupt in america. "Prisons" and "youth correctional facilities" are run by businesses who become friends with "judges" who when passing sentences make the prison service KERCHING.
first. it is a terrorist threat.
Terroristic Threat Law & Legal Definition
The following is an example of a Texas statute dealing with terroristic threats:
TERRORISTIC THREAT
(a) A person commits an offense if he threatens to commit any offense involving violence to any person or property with intent to:
I'm glad they done this. I'm tired of cyber bullies, trolls and you name it. its time to clamp down on them. I live in the UK and our laws are sickening. A person who commits a murder here will get around that much as that kid is having. I wish our laws were like Texas, at least people here will learn their place.
What a joke. And I can't believe some people are defending this.
How did that Canadian woman find out this guys identity anyway?
OPs link was sloppy reporting
the conversation took place on Facebook
Teen faces 8 years in prison for making a (terrifying) Facebook joke
http://now.msn.com/justin-carter-teen-faces-prison-for-facebook-sarcastic-threat
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So for all of the people who agree that there should be a form of accountability for statements made on the internet, what do you think about the previously mentioned article http://www.theblaze.com/stories/2013/06/27/if-zimmerman-get-off-ima-go-kill-a-white-boy-trayvon-martin-supporters-make-shocking-threats-ahead-of-verdict/ ?
If you think this kid deserves to be jailed / investigated for his comments, how do you feel about the comments made in the article? Should they be treated the same way (arrested and investigated)?
We haven't been the land of the free since the Patriot Act and the implementation of Homeland Security. You can't even speak against the military without being hounded by someone, even your neighbors. Free speech is fast becoming a relic of the past.
Building Evidence, surveillance. Gathering internet conversations. people are not arrested and held on the word of one caller. They could bring him in for questioning. All this makes this article more and more one sided or 100% fake.
Shame they didn't have the same dedication to finding the people behind 9/11.
Er, besides having a 10 year manhunt and violating the borders of a sovereign nation to hunt down and kill the primary organizer and several family members. Even dumped the body at sea so there could be no memorial. Yeah, I think they did a pretty good job of follow through on that one. Israel would have been proud.Back to the OP, I think the story is BS myself, will wait and see if it can be verified.
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its mostly true - except it took place on facebook
http://now.msn.com/justin-carter-teen-faces-prison-for-facebook-sarcastic-threat
google: news teen facebook 8 years
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Living in Texas, I can affirm that strict laws and the death penalty have been absolutely no deterrent from continued misbehavior and murders, including those committed by the lawmakers themselves. We are suffering under a corrupt government that is making every effort to pass laws that control anyone who doesn't think like they do. I despise Governor Rick Perry and his Tea Party cronies.
For those of you thinking this is a hoax, he didn't make the comments on League of Legends. The dumbass made it on Facebook (in an argument about LoL) so it was very easy for the mother and police to track him down and see his threat.
After half a dozen school shootings across the US, police are bound to start taking threats seriously eventually. Don't you think? It's like if someone was slowly killing off your entire family but you waited until a couple dozen were already dead before buying a gun and preemptively shooting the next person that comes at your family with a weapon.
Plenty of people now believe these threats by kids have been the only 'sign' in several cases that somebody was going to shoot up a school. America isn't scared. It's just determining not to take bullshit from stupid kids that think it's funny making it so easy for the insane ones to act on it since the 'warning signs' were played off as a joke, or 'not a big deal' time and time again. Considering the kid already prompted someone else calling him 'insane', there might have been more leading up to the one line threat in the story. If everyone starts to think 'lol jk' is a way to play off any threat, then kids can just start using that now before shooting up a school. The American government and police clearly aren't afraid to take any steps necessary to preemptively attack and detain any possible threat, at the expense of any other law or freedom that can potentially protect someone planning an attack.
I'm not going to argue if that is 'right' or not. It might be crossing the line in many cases according to the constitution, but this isn't a place for that kind of debate. Some of you seem pitifully ignorant or misinformed about the facts above. At least get your shit straight before picking a side.
My only inclination to respond to the story itself was 'lol wtfpwned'. Back when I was in school, this is remarkably similar to that loser that went around talking shit goofing around like an idiot until someone took him seriously and beat the crap out of him. I was the guy watching with the popcorn (technically soda and muffin most of the time) because some of us just aren't that stupid and it was quite entertaining seeing justice delivered. The kid is lucky he didn't end up in the hospital by the parents of past school-shooting victims tracking him down and teaching him a lesson.
Seriously, it's been an illusion for over a decade now. I was never ashamed to be an American until certain events.
I completely support the belief that a person is innocent until proven guilty. Until they can prove beyond a reasonable doubt that he planned on going through with said threat, he does not deserve eight years in prison. While they investigate, he is innocent and should not be painted as a criminal when there is no evidence to support it.
http://rt.com/usa/prison-years-teenager-sarcastic-383/
Justin Carter was only 18 years old when he and a friend got into an online spat over Facebook back in February with another person.
Carter’s trial is expected to begin July 1 in Texas.
Earlier this month, a grand jury in Massachusetts declined to indict an 18-year-old aspiring rapper who was accused of making terrorist threats after posting prose on his Facebook page that referenced the Boston Marathon bombing. Cameron B. D’Ambrosio was detained for one month in jail and stood to serve as much as two decades if convicted.
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http://m.guardian.co.uk/world/2013/jun/28/us-army-blocks-guardian-website-access?CMP=twt_gu
"Network hygiene" is very important. Imagine what would happen if people could read the unfiltered news.
He's charged with making a threat of violence against children. Pretty sure this an open and shut case against him. What is not known by the legion of internet trolls is whether he has a history of violence, a juvenile record, a history of drug abuse or mental health issues. The prosecutor doesn't have to try the case in the public, so that side isn't shown in the PR campaign the family is waging. The simple fact that he has been held without bail is very telling. That means someone convinced a judge that he was a threat to the public.
seriously?
here in Brazil a 17 years old kid can murder/robber whoever he/she wants and will be set free when it complete 18 with the criminal record clean.
i whish my country had a serious jurisdiction like US.
Tell me, for I do not know, who or what was terrorized?
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Making a threat does not justify prison. They have to prove conspiracy. Notes and plans and second or third party witnesses to prove guilt. A crime has to be committed or it didn't happen. At best, they can file a restraining order and keep an eye on him.
thx for this, great post.
he's been in jail for the last 6 months -- awaiting his trial
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2013/06/27/teenager-justin-carter-facebook-comment-jail_n_3512025.html
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That would indicate there is real evidence or there is a travesty taking place all in the name of security.
I will withhold judgement until I know more facts.
Based on just what I read he should not be held or put on trial. However I am sure there is a bit more to the story. Typically a judge would have to see him a few days after the arrest for a bond hearing. Either the bond was revoked or was set so high he could not be bailed out by his parents.
The judge for some reason thought he was an actual danger and did one of those two things. Perhaps this was not the 1st time he was brought before the judge. Perhaps he has made threats in the past. Perhaps the police found evidence that he was a risk for a mass school killing.
I dont know, and neither does anyone else it seems. Follow the trial and see what comes out before rushing to judgement.
Maybe he is being wrongly accused and held, maybe he isnt. Either way the days of making threats to go shoot children are over. Especially on social media sites.
If the kid just made a bad joke then he wont serve any time. The eight years is a maximum sentence I am sure, he will probably get off with a slap on the wrist, unless he actually was a threat and did plan to kill children.
No they don't. Making the threat is enough here.