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Originally posted by Lienhart Originally posted by DamonVile Originally posted by Lienhart I've clocked an absurdly high amount of hours into MMOs from WoW to Final Fantasy XI. After recently switching to a much more expensive hobby (supersport track days), I'm feeling the need to slap my face for wasting so much time on a hobby that amounts to having nothing to show for in the real world. Anyone else ever feel the same way?
I don't understand why kids do it....but as someone that's older it's a nice hobby you can do and be around the house.
I did all my motorcycle/ski and snowboard racing as a younger person. They all hurt too much now
They're a waste of time but so is everything else. As long as you're having fun it's all good...but.... if you do all your old person hobbies as a kid you'll wish you did more kid hobbies when you get old. So yes....games are a waste of your youth.
Really? I can't imagine how riding or track racing could EVER become old or something I'd give up. But then again, everyone that's older has who used to ride told me they sold their bikes once the kids came in: I guess the solution is to avoid kids lol
That stuff is hard on your joints... running and jogging is not good. Brisk walking is what you should be training for. Maybe you could compete in the brisk walk competition held in Michael Jackson's "Neverland" ranch. I hear they got candy for prizes.
I don't feel that MMO's are a waste of time at all as long as I am getting enjoyment from it.
Originally posted by CalmOceans Not really. There's other things that are a much bigger waste of time I think, like going to bars getting drunk, watching television, gambling, bowling, watching horse races, watching sports. You name it. At least when I play MMO I am increasing my typing speed and thinking of strategies and learning my English.
Bowling with people from your work, including your boss, for a better team building? Raises your chances to climb up a ladder
Watching sports and talk about it to your boss? Raises your chances to climb up a ladder. So far, I've never met a person who plays MMOs and could be of interest to get a better job.
Going to bars and getting drunk? I've made the experience that this way you can establish contacts (of course you habe to go to the right places, preferably where potential business partners are).
Trust me, your english would have become even better if you had done it in a course, on a regular basis.
only EVE is real MMO...but I am impressive with TSW
I dont understand the concept of "wasted time". How does that work? How can you waste time?
And: are you trolling Car-Forums with threads how you think cars are a waste of time too?
I agree with the OP - computer games are a waste of life.
However, working hard to make your mark isn't exactly a barrel of laughs.
The ultimate solution would be to find a cure for ageing so that we have a near-infinate amount of time to have fun and do things that are worthwhile.
Originally posted by Lienhart Anyone else feel that MMOs are a HUGE waste of time?
That's what they're supposed to do, consume leisure hours.
So, yeah, they are.
Self-pity imprisons us in the walls of our own self-absorption. The whole world shrinks down to the size of our problem, and the more we dwell on it, the smaller we are and the larger the problem seems to grow.
Originally posted by Lienhart I've clocked an absurdly high amount of hours into MMOs from WoW to Final Fantasy XI. After recently switching to a much more expensive hobby (supersport track days), I'm feeling the need to slap my face for wasting so much time on a hobby that amounts to having nothing to show for in the real world. Anyone else ever feel the same way?
Yes they waste my time, something I have in abundance, and need to waste.
I have other hobbies, but as you mentioned they can get expensive. My "main-alt-hobby"? Tabletop wargaming, which puts my $20 a month time wasting budget in a sad sad sad place, so I stick with MMOs.
I am heading back to school this fall which should waste tons of my time, and have positive "real-world-results".
Yeah, it is a waste of time. There's no doubt about that. But it's something I enjoy.
But suppose I did something else with my free time, like my uncle the toy train guy who converted his entire garage into a miniature world. When he died, they just boxed up all the trains and tore apart the little mountain valley and town he'd made.
Then there is a old art teacher. She was a still life painter. Her work was amazing but she didn't sell any of it. She had the paintings all over the house and in one room from floor to ceiling. When she died of breast cancer, her husband collected all her paintings and through them into the trash. I guess looking at them reminded him too much of her....trying to give him the benefit of the doubt.
I had an uncle that liked to work on cars for a hobby. He was killed walking across the street.
My point is, all these people had other hobbies besides gaming, and as far I can tell the world could care less. It's the enjoyment they got out of it that mattered at the time.
Originally posted by LienhartI've clocked an absurdly high amount of hours into MMOs from WoW to Final Fantasy XI. After recently switching to a much more expensive hobby (supersport track days), I'm feeling the need to slap my face for wasting so much time on a hobby that amounts to having nothing to show for in the real world.Anyone else ever feel the same way?
I can not remember winning or losing a single debate on the internet.
I love people who think they've found something meaningful between birth and death.
Look, do what you enjoy, because when you're on your deathbed, you'll realize that nothing you ever did had any value, because you still are going to die.
Even if you've "changed the world" through medicine or engineering or whatever, it still doesn't matter. Because all people will eventually die. Our lives are about as valuable as a cows - we just have brains that tell us how important we are.
And funnily enough, I'm not giving up gaming, yet tomorrow I wake up bright and early at 4am to go on a track day. Yet when I get home in the evening, I will have not gained anything of real value. But I will have enjoyed myself thoroughly.
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Damn the spammer that dragged this sad plee for validation back up from the depths of hell last night.
There isn't a "right" or "wrong" way to play, if you want to use a screwdriver to put nails into wood, have at it, simply don't complain when the guy next to you with the hammer is doing it much better and easier. - Allein"Graphics are often supplied by Engines that (some) MMORPG's are built in" - Spuffyre
All entertaiment activities are time waster. You may try to change your approach to make money on them, but then it's a job and not entertaiment.
MMORPGs feel like ultimate time waster nowadays not worth putting your time into because they became shallow skinner boxes cross-breed with malls. They're on same level as gambling dens, telemarketting or DSMAX / Cydcor / other outdoor slavery scams. That's why they feel like such time waste now.
Well, here's my take on this.
Perhaps you have been a consumer of entertainment so long, or in such large quantities that you know yearn for something to give your life more meaning.
I put it to you that you have a creative streak that needs to be expressed.
I found myself in a similar mind a few years back & decided to start writing, doesn't matter if I ever finish what I'm doing let alone ever get it published, that's not important to me as I'm in no need of affirmation, I do it to have a creative outlet & I found that really helped with this kind of issue.
Essentially all games, entertainment, is a waste of time if you are passively consuming them, they are there to provide a way to pass time enjoyably, I'm sure if all the hours you spent playing MMO's had instead been spent watching grass grow or paint dry you'd be feeling you'd wasted your life to a much worse degree.
Originally posted by Lienhart Originally posted by vindir I suppose the same slap in the face coudl be applied for anyone who spends countless hours of T.V, movies, facebook, etc. At least with gaming (or mmo's in this case) I can gain problem sovling, learn and apply basic monetary lessons, hand-to-eye coordination, develop social skills, time managment, team work skills and probebly some other somewhat (if not useful) cerebral skills that can be applied to real world scenarios.
Get out a little bit more and you'll understand what I mean. You have some valid points but to throw Facebook, development of social skills, time management and team work skills into there...just hell no (and I'd argue against hte monetary lessons but I can see how that would work).
It depends on the person's view and not yours or mine. Let me ask you a question....Suppose there is a guy playing an mmo who happens to be in a wheel chair , would that be considered time wasted if he played mmo's and got social interaction that he might not normally enjoy out there. There are many , many reason why people play mmo's, yes some of you are young people, some are grandmother and grandfathers that enjoy playing...what seems a waste to you is not in anothers point of view.
I used gaming to get away from alcohol abuse, so no mmo's have not been a waste to me. So you see, it depends on the person and you must never judge them yourself.
Originally posted by Loktofeit Damn the spammer that dragged this sad plee for validation back up from the depths of hell last night.