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ArcheAge's creative freedom

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  • MindTriggerMindTrigger La Quinta, CAPosts: 2,596Member

    Weird, I didn't know about any of this.  It's a lot like Second Life with those tools available.  Second Life isn't a game though, it's much more like a 3D WWW or "America Online" type thing.

    It can be interesting, but I'm not sure Western gamers want this stuff in their games.  This also explains the cars everyone was talking about a few weeks ago.  The Asian version seems very "anything goes".

     

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  • wizyywizyy Novi SadPosts: 629Member

    Well, I expected this to happen way back when I read that you could import any picture on a tabard and ship's sail...

    I like to have a laugh as anyone, but we will see obscenities and whatnot at every corner if this tool get OKayed in western version.

    Some people will enjoy this freedom but ArcheAge will be ridiculed by most, imho.

     

    These shenanigans may attract people from the infamous GOON Squad, though, and when you add the world PvP (ganking), they may come in numbers to AA.

  • ZyromkiruZyromkiru Derby, KSPosts: 7Member
    As cool as this feature is I see many problems with it and I'm sure trion will probably tweak it or not put this in the game. I know that  a lot of people will be putting up images that trion won't approve of.
  • Ngeldu5tNgeldu5t PhoenixPosts: 606Member Uncommon
    I really hope they put restrictions and doesn't allow this to happen on the western version.I like the world of AA and  do not want to see it spoil with IRL pictures.

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  • superscott99superscott99 Benton, ARPosts: 13Member
    Predict it will NOT be included in NA release. Irresponsibilty runs rampant over here, especially on the internet, and a freedom like this would be abused. Sad though, it's probably one of the better tools I've ever seen in a sandbox.
  • coretex666coretex666 PraguePosts: 1,934Member Uncommon
    Originally posted by superscott99
    Predict it will NOT be included in NA release. Irresponsibilty runs rampant over here, especially on the internet, and a freedom like this would be abused. Sad though, it's probably one of the better tools I've ever seen in a sandbox.

    I agree it is a nice feature in a way, but I think it cannot be put in players's hands. You do not log in a fantasy world to see the same commercials and plenty of other stuff you are annoyed with IRL.

     

    Waiting for L2 EU Classic

  • TreekodarTreekodar jlkjklPosts: 524Member
    Originally posted by coretex666
    Originally posted by superscott99
    Predict it will NOT be included in NA release. Irresponsibilty runs rampant over here, especially on the internet, and a freedom like this would be abused. Sad though, it's probably one of the better tools I've ever seen in a sandbox.

    I agree it is a nice feature in a way, but I think it cannot be put in players's hands. You do not log in a fantasy world to see the same commercials and plenty of other stuff you are annoyed with IRL.

     

    Then destroy it?

    Eleanor Rigby.

  • RollieJoeRollieJoe Raleigh, NCPosts: 436Member

    There is absolutely no chance, none, 0% that this feature or anything like it will make it into Trion's AA, or any major Western MMO.   Western players and especially US ones simply aren't mature enough by and large to be able to handle other people's preferences.  Also Western/US laws would never allow this feature to exist without massive oversight by Trion, costing them thousands of man-hours.

     

    It is interesting to read about how this is being used in the Korean version, but again, for better or worse, this will not, under any circumstances, be in Trion's version.

  • coretex666coretex666 PraguePosts: 1,934Member Uncommon
    Originally posted by Treekodar
    Originally posted by coretex666
    Originally posted by superscott99
    Predict it will NOT be included in NA release. Irresponsibilty runs rampant over here, especially on the internet, and a freedom like this would be abused. Sad though, it's probably one of the better tools I've ever seen in a sandbox.

    I agree it is a nice feature in a way, but I think it cannot be put in players's hands. You do not log in a fantasy world to see the same commercials and plenty of other stuff you are annoyed with IRL.

     

    Then destroy it?

    I am not sure you can destroy everything everywhere in the game.

    It would be a full time job destroying this stuff anyway.

    I think RL commercials have no place in fantasy MMOs. Having Haris Pilton NPC in your game is one thing, but having vending machines and commercials all over the place is too much, imo.

    Waiting for L2 EU Classic

  • VincerKadenVincerKaden Edison, NJPosts: 457Member

    On one hand... I can see how this could be used to create controversial imagery and messages. So removing this from the feature set seems like a good idea to prevent abuse.

     

    But on the other hand, by removing this feature the game is guided back towards the same feature set that many other MMOs already have.

     

    In other words, it's a standout feature that's unlike the majority of games in the same market.

     

    In other words, I'm just so tired of MMOs getting cranked out that have pretty much the same features. Keep the darn system in, and let people who like it, play it. And those who don't like it can either ignore it, or find another game to play; one that suits their preferences and style.

     

    Not every MMOs has to appeal to every MMO player.

     

    We're our own worst enemies when it comes to the products being marketed to us.

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  • AbsolemAbsolem Lewiston, MEPosts: 19Member

    Erm, you've been able to do stuff like this in games like Second Life for a while, why not ArcheAge??

     

    Maybe Trion wouldn't do it though.

     

    Also, Rollie, you gonna PM me back yet? Lol.

  • DistopiaDistopia Baltimore, MDPosts: 16,899Member Uncommon
    I could have dealt with the cars and other "steampunk" leanings. But this? Not for me. While I'll say the creations shown are rather well done, they stick out like a sore thumb. I really don't want to pass by a Mcdonalds or disneyland while playing a game like this.

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  • ZornhauZornhau Chesapeake, VAPosts: 25Member
    Originally posted by coretex666
    Originally posted by Treekodar
    Originally posted by coretex666
    Originally posted by superscott99
    Predict it will NOT be included in NA release. Irresponsibilty runs rampant over here, especially on the internet, and a freedom like this would be abused. Sad though, it's probably one of the better tools I've ever seen in a sandbox.

    I agree it is a nice feature in a way, but I think it cannot be put in players's hands. You do not log in a fantasy world to see the same commercials and plenty of other stuff you are annoyed with IRL.

     

    Then destroy it?

    I am not sure you can destroy everything everywhere in the game.

    It would be a full time job destroying this stuff anyway.

    I think RL commercials have no place in fantasy MMOs. Having Haris Pilton NPC in your game is one thing, but having vending machines and commercials all over the place is too much, imo.

    I think if Trion restricted this tool set for use only in the Northern continent where PvPers can destroy any potentially offensive buildings that'll be a cool thing to do :D. May create more politics/drama.

  • julizsjulizs WeingartenPosts: 9Member
    Actually i'm suprised this even made it into the korean version, almost all the pictures you can see are copyright protected, anyone can sue XLGames for a good amount of money.

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  • ApraxisApraxis RegensburgPosts: 1,515Member Uncommon
    Originally posted by julizs
    Actually i'm suprised this even made it into the korean version, almost all the pictures you can see are copyright protected, anyone can sue XLGames for a good amount of money.

    Yeap.. like they have sued youtube. And nevertheless youtube is running and very successful. o.O

  • seldomseen13seldomseen13 Aspen, COPosts: 16Member

    I love it. I have no idea if I will actually play this game, but at least its a step in the direction of nonconformity in mmo's. The more interesting tweaks that the more games have the better. If its in trouble for being too sandboxy, its good for the genre. I get that if you thought AA was the next  promising title and you don't want a pop concert between you and the orcs in your next mmo, it sucks. However, that house linked earlier in the thread is one of the funniest things I have seen in any mmo. There will be funny stuff.

    I sure hope you can destroy property with some degree of ease, because I might spec into vendor machine destruction, or K Pop mayhem clown.

    For those already lamenting the lack of maturity in the gaming community, may I remind you one thing: Its a GAMING community. There will be funny, trolly, immature crap everywhere. That's the deal. Shuffleboard has a much more mature community with way less trolling if that's you cup of tea.

  • HugolinHugolin Capital FederalPosts: 77Member

    this game is rated 18+ so giant penis towers should be ok

    dont let ur kids play it, but anyway if u let them play cod and kill people and u dont let them play games that have tits, u are probably from usa...so...yeah...usa morals, medieval morals lets say, i like asian morals, if u can kill someone u can also fuck him or see their tits...its fair

  • lucas12lucas12 soulthmahxPosts: 4Member
    Originally posted by Kumapon

    For those that don't know ArcheAge has a built in creation tool set. Using this tool set players can import pictures files in the game and then place them on various objects that they have created in game.


    Korean players have created some weird and wild creations.


    Here is an example, a Korean player has created their own Starbucks using the creation tools, and is selling Frabs and Mocha's!


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    Again using the tools you can create anything you want, we will have to see if Trion will have these tool for the Na version.

     

     

     

    black desert are crying now. 

     

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  • InporylemQQInporylemQQ asdasadsPosts: 165Member

    While it's nice players can do such thing it has the bad side too. I can't really link all the stuff I have seen in here since that would get me banned. Go check here and you might get the idea http://drolyag.imgur.com/archeage

    I have a feeling ArcheAge won't be rated as mature in western release they might be dropping the ucc art all together it's too hard to moderate such things. Well not hard, but will require a lot of work hours. Creative art is always nice, but seeing naked males everywhere is kinda turnoff for me.

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  • Default101Default101 Bloomington, ILPosts: 55Member
    So a game hints at giving players total creative freedom and everyone recoils because they might end up seeing something they don't like? And you wonder why we get such watered down, uninspiring, cookie cutter games.

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  • SovrathSovrath Boston Area, MAPosts: 18,451Member Uncommon
    Originally posted by Default101
    So a game hints at giving players total creative freedom and everyone recoils because they might end up seeing something they don't like? And you wonder why we get such watered down, uninspiring, cookie cutter games.

    Yes that's exactly it. You've nailed it.

    Players are recoiling because they might see something that they don't like.

    Has nothing to do with some players being tacky in their choices and turning the game world into an "everything but the kitchen sink" experience.

    I guess you are suggesing that those are our only choices? watered down, uninspiring cookie cutter games or unsuitable, gaudy iconography by players with no sense of wholistic design.

    Heck, maybe some will get clever and reach out to corporate sponsors and offer their services by advertising in game.? What a wondrous world we live in.

     

    well, we'll see what Trion includes as far as player freedoms.

     

  • KilrainKilrain Prineville, ORPosts: 684Member Uncommon
    Originally posted by Sovrath
    Originally posted by Default101
    So a game hints at giving players total creative freedom and everyone recoils because they might end up seeing something they don't like? And you wonder why we get such watered down, uninspiring, cookie cutter games.

    Yes that's exactly it. You've nailed it.

    Players are recoiling because they might see something that they don't like.

    Has nothing to do with some players being tacky in their choices and turning the game world into an "everything but the kitchen sink" experience.

    I guess you are suggesing that those are our only choices? watered down, uninspiring cookie cutter games or unsuitable, gaudy iconography by players with no sense of wholistic design.

    Heck, maybe some will get clever and reach out to corporate sponsors and offer their services by advertising in game.? What a wondrous world we live in.

     

    well, we'll see what Trion includes as far as player freedoms.

     

    would you rather be able to build a startbox or play WoW again? Seriously, answer the question.

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  • KilrainKilrain Prineville, ORPosts: 684Member Uncommon
    Originally posted by Deleted User
    Actually i'm suprised this even made it into the korean version, almost all the pictures you can see are copyright protected, anyone can sue XLGames for a good amount of money.

    Take a closer look.

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  • drakaenadrakaena Posts: 488Member Uncommon
    Trivial.

    This game was built on the foundation of open world PvP, warring player made factions, politics, etc. It is a PvP game by design.

    Hence the forensics, jail system, pirate faction, FFA package looting.

    Then they went and broke it by adding safe zones and spawn points and neutering PvP to the point it is nonexistent and all players left.

    These are the real issues with AA not Starbucks
  • SovrathSovrath Boston Area, MAPosts: 18,451Member Uncommon
    Originally posted by Kilrain
    Originally posted by Sovrath
    Originally posted by Default101
    So a game hints at giving players total creative freedom and everyone recoils because they might end up seeing something they don't like? And you wonder why we get such watered down, uninspiring, cookie cutter games.

    Yes that's exactly it. You've nailed it.

    Players are recoiling because they might see something that they don't like.

    Has nothing to do with some players being tacky in their choices and turning the game world into an "everything but the kitchen sink" experience.

    I guess you are suggesing that those are our only choices? watered down, uninspiring cookie cutter games or unsuitable, gaudy iconography by players with no sense of wholistic design.

    Heck, maybe some will get clever and reach out to corporate sponsors and offer their services by advertising in game.? What a wondrous world we live in.

     

    well, we'll see what Trion includes as far as player freedoms.

     

    would you rather be able to build a startbox or play WoW again? Seriously, answer the question.

    Ok, I'll spell it out for you more clearly,

    Many players just don't have an aesthetic clue. I'd rather play wow than go into a game that is junked up by what "some" players think is neat or cool. I despise "everything but the kitchen sink design".

    So, in this example the game is "supposed" to be cyberpunk (even though the art assets are all over the place as far as "period" and initial information indicated it was a straight fantasy world) and yet it's very possible that we will go through the world and see a taco bell, a renaissance fair and possibly something science fiction (?).

     If the setting of the game was something more akin to "West World" (the movie) then it might be more palatable.but then we would be in a science fiction world where the inhabitants create their own realities for "whatever reason". Same if it was like Jack Chalker's Soul Rider Series where certain people could create their own pocket realities and were essentially gods.

    So yeah, I'd rather play wow. At least the world has a logic that is congruent with itself.

    Or better yet, just play something else all together.

    edit: since this discussion has the potential to become "interesting" I'll add this quote from Stravinsky's  poetics of music:

    My freedom will be so much the greater and more meaningful the more narrowly I limit my field of action and the more I surround myself with obstacles. Whatever diminishes constraint diminishes strength. The more constraints one imposes, the more one frees one's self of the chains that shackle the spirit.

    Had the developers limited the scope of what was possible but allowed the players a greater depth within that scope, this game world could have become something quite amazing.

    There's still time so it's up to Trion.

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