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[Interview] Warhammer 40.000: Eternal Crusade: There Is Only WAR

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  • WelshyJTWelshyJT LLANELLIPosts: 28Member Uncommon

    Take a look at the studios former work....

    Movie shovelware and generally horrendous games...

    UH OH, my beloved 40k will be butchered once again

  • orionblackorionblack Wichita Falls, TXPosts: 474Member Uncommon
    Originally posted by Vlacke

    The fact that you have to pay in order to play a Space Marine in a WH40k "free to play" MMO is somewhat hilarious.

    Ork Boyz, seriously?

    Well It kinda makes sense , because the Orks are treated as a horde army in the table top version. AND being a space marine is kinda an elite thing. But yeah funny way to represent that, that being said sign me up for a sub!!!

  • greywolf2002greywolf2002 ViveiroPosts: 17Member

    Well, i laughted at the "free players will always outnumber the premium players so let's give them some utility and make them be the ork mob mass", that was hilarous as hell.

     

    Other than that: freemium MMO and W40K license. This game will fail enormously. Don't get me wrong, i love W40K, but Warhammer games never do well, i don't know why they bother anymore.

  • hfztthfztt GlostrupPosts: 840Member Uncommon
    Originally posted by WelshyJT

    Take a look at the studios former work....

    Movie shovelware and generally horrendous games...

    UH OH, my beloved 40k will be butchered once again

    Yeah, my first thought as well. But it seems they ahve been doing some hiring of laid of MMO developers (which are abundant at this time sadly), so it might turn out ok after all.

    For now they are getting the benifit of the doubt.

  • TsaboHavocTsaboHavoc PinheiralPosts: 351Member

    as much as i hate to admit, the F2P idea allied with the lore was effing brilliant, buuuuuuuuuut, charging for each faction in separated ways.. hmmm.. i dont know, im curious to know how much would cost to unlock all all game versus the market price of one AAA game in all plataforms. ALSO

    dreaded cash shops? (no, pls no)

    separated servers for each plataform?

     
  • SevalaSevala K, NYPosts: 134Member

    Owwwwww.....my 40k.....this isn't good news. Everything about this has ~EPIC FAIL~ written all over it. Its blatant pay-to-win and isn't even trying to attempt to pretend its f2p.

    It doesn't even matter if the game is good, thats enough alone to kill it. 1 pay player = 5 f2p players....that means 1 decent p2w player = 10-15 f2p payers in the real world.

    *Sigh*....I Agree with the previous posters who said "I don't thing we'll ever see another good 40k game" except I expand that to the entire Warhammer Ip....40k or Fantasy.

    ~I am Many~

  • GorweGorwe Ald'RuhnPosts: 2,474Member Uncommon

    [mod edit]

    Now, I am sure that Orks will have mob bonuses and that will bring them on par with other races. It isn't the best payment option(I'd much more prefer that troop choices were f2p and everything else purchasable), but it MAKES SENSE. Orks are a mob. F2P unwashed masses are a mob. Connect the dots?

    Anyway. Nothing is fair like ever and "balance" is unattainable.

    It seems these ex Funcom guys actually care about lore and fun more than the previous guys who put Mythic "balance" and payment on the pedestal.

    [mod edit]
     
  • bigcrackerbigcracker Philadelphia, PAPosts: 49Member Uncommon

    pay money to kill hordes of f2pers as a dark angel space marine......

     

    SHUT UP AND TAKE MY MONEY!

  • Ngeldu5tNgeldu5t PhoenixPosts: 606Member Uncommon
    Oh,guess what?another company trying to make an MMO from the Warhammer IP.

    In the land of Predators,the lion does not fear the jackals...

  • steamtanksteamtank Rochester, NYPosts: 385Member

    i would have payed a box price and sub to just have a BALANCED game.

    this went from my most anticipated to... not even going to bother installing... in a what... 24 hour span.....

     

    I thought they were going to learn from WAR's biggest flaw (2 factions)  a 5 faction war for superiority would have been AMAZING.  instead its pay-2-win garbage.

     

    what a waste of an amazing IP

  • orbitxoorbitxo fort lauderdale, FLPosts: 1,410Member Uncommon

    Miguel Caron has bombarded us with so much info about the game- iam speechless!

    the fact the a Wk40 mmo is in the works again is still trying to sink in here!!!!

     

    Mr. Caron (Funcom-Conan!?)- If its as spectacular as  TSW = COUNT ME IN!!!!!

    the one thing that stuck to mind here 'orc only  free playable race and will take 5 orcs to take down a space marine due to more free gamers = GENIOUS!!!

     

    2015 cant come soon enough- WWAAAAAAAAAAAAGH!!!!!!!!!!!

  • ZilegoZilego Huntersville, NCPosts: 8Member Uncommon
    So this is going to be another pay to win game? If it takes 5 f2p players to take down one p2p guy, how in the hell is that going to be fun? What if you don't pay and you come across a squad of 4 people who do pay. Does it take a whole raid group to kill them? If you play an orc, your just going to be a bag of meat who just dies over and over and never gets a kill. I don't see people willing to play like that.
  • soundsonicsoundsonic BudapestPosts: 15Member
    Dark eldar rulz :))  and you've got a favorite faction?
  • HellidolHellidol TACOMA, WAPosts: 405Member Uncommon
    The F2P model is a joke, there is little reason to want to play a game using these tactics. If it isnt a hybrid model then it wont fly. I can say I am glad they told us this at the start so I dont even have to try to track this game now, thanks!

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  • GrumpyMel2GrumpyMel2 Catskills, NYPosts: 1,832Member

    Sounds potentialy interesting but we'll have to see what the combat system is liked. To represent the feel of fire-arms/futuristic ranged weapons well you really need a mouse-aiming system not tabbed-targeting and I REALLY dislike 3rd person view when dealing with modern/sci-fi warfare and ranged weaponry. If it doesn't give at least the option of a 1st person view I might have to give a pass.

    Yeah I know...most MMO'ers live and die by 3rd person......but  "bang-bang" is supposed to have a fundementaly different feel/experience then hacking something from 2 feet away.

    IMO if they are really doing it right they'll switch from 1st to 3rd depending upon what type of weapon is equiped and let the players choose to turn it off and handle thier preferences manualy if they like as well.

     

  • jdnycjdnyc Long Island City, NYPosts: 1,696Member

    People thinking that this model will fail are grossly underestimating the fandom that WH40k holds.

     

  • waynejr2waynejr2 West Toluca Lake, CAPosts: 4,479Member Uncommon

    Let's look at 40k the miniatures games.  You purchased a core set of rules and perhaps the starter box.  The rest of the game was purchased bit by bit.  You want a different army?  Buy a set of rules plus various miniatures.  Want that leader figure?  Be prepared to spend a lot of money.  This is their business model. 

    Check out the prices at  http://www.games-workshop.com/gws/home.jsp?setLocale=en_US&gclid=CKTml4SE37cCFUThQgod5B0Aig

    $115.00 for a wraithknight miniature:  http://www.games-workshop.com/gws/catalog/productDetail.jsp?prodId=prod2060062a

     

  • steamtanksteamtank Rochester, NYPosts: 385Member
    Originally posted by waynejr2

    Let's look at 40k the miniatures games.  You purchased a core set of rules and perhaps the starter box.  The rest of the game was purchased bit by bit.  You want a different army?  Buy a set of rules plus various miniatures.  Want that leader figure?  Be prepared to spend a lot of money.  This is their business model. 

    Check out the prices at  http://www.games-workshop.com/gws/home.jsp?setLocale=en_US&gclid=CKTml4SE37cCFUThQgod5B0Aig

    $115.00 for a wraithknight miniature:  http://www.games-workshop.com/gws/catalog/productDetail.jsp?prodId=prod2060062a

     

    I own at least a 6000 point wood elf army and a 12000 point greenskin army....

    the cost means nothing to me.

     

    the fairness of the game means something to me.  I for one dont see any amusement in killing off 3-4 free players without breaking a sweat. 

    I would much rather it be a DAOC like game with 4 playable factions and 1 wildcard faction.  If they want to represent unit size, have an ork players model be 3-5 ork boys that travel together.

     

    the game already reeks of pay-to-win, that isnt competitive, its boring.

     

  • faxnadufaxnadu HelsinkiPosts: 940Member Uncommon
    Originally posted by VassagoMael
    As soon as I read free to play I lost interest. I want a game that is designed around being fun, not designed around ways to nickle and dime me. Or in the case of NWO, try and become a millionaire by selling lemonade for $1000 a cup.

    empty wish since online games are all going to be f2p from now on with tricky cash shop.

  • TotemicDruidTotemicDruid WiganPosts: 2Member

    Guys I am hopeful! A game which appears to mirror Planetside, but with the Rich Lore of WH:40K is a fantastic idea, plus it has the added PvE content. 

    With regards to the F2P model, people have to get that life isnt free and things cost money. Do they seriously think the programmers are doing this out of the goodness of their hearts??

    A single Ork couldnt take a Space Marine, so lets not get into the idiotic calls for balance, simply because you dont want to sub/pay for a better gaming experience. If any of you know even the slightest bit about the lore of this game its that balance is there, so I dont want to see something similar to "Dude! The emperor  just got wasted by an Eldar Guardian"".

    I played SWG for years and even up to its end, to make way for SWTOR, it never went free to play; which is something SWTOR didnt last 6 months doing. In short if its good pay for it, if you arent that interested, but enjoy a zerg here and there, take advantage of the F2P model?

    With that said I agree with the above comments that limiting the F2P race may be a tad restrictive. Of the races indicated Imperial Guard, Guardians and Heretics are all an obvious F2P meat-shield replacement :)

  • BunnykingBunnyking NowherePosts: 114Member Uncommon

    Only able to play orcs with the f2p option?

     

    Pass. 

    Who's retarded idea was that?

  • RazeeksterRazeekster Solon, MEPosts: 2,201Member Uncommon
    Originally posted by TotemicDruid

    Guys I am hopeful! A game which appears to mirror Planetside, but with the Rich Lore of WH:40K is a fantastic idea, plus it has the added PvE content. 

    With regards to the F2P model, people have to get that life isnt free and things cost money. Do they seriously think the programmers are doing this out of the goodness of their hearts??

    A single Ork couldnt take a Space Marine, so lets not get into the idiotic calls for balance, simply because you dont want to sub/pay for a better gaming experience. If any of you know even the slightest bit about the lore of this game its that balance is there, so I dont want to see something similar to "Dude! The emperor  just got wasted by an Eldar Guardian"".

    I played SWG for years and even up to its end, to make way for SWTOR, it never went free to play; which is something SWTOR didnt last 6 months doing. In short if its good pay for it, if you arent that interested, but enjoy a zerg here and there, take advantage of the F2P model?

    With that said I agree with the above comments that limiting the F2P race may be a tad restrictive. Of the races indicated Imperial Guard, Guardians and Heretics are all an obvious F2P meat-shield replacement :)

    Dude! The emperor just got wasted by an Eldar Guardian!

     

    No, but seriously, if you actually think that barring certain classes in what they're calling a "F2P game" is acceptable then I don't think you understand the difference between F2P and P2P. The company either needs to have a balanced F2P with a fair cash shop (cosmetics only) or it needs to be subscription based.

     

    This thing with being on the rails with what their pay model really is, isn't acceptable.

     

    Smile

  • imran_tayabimran_tayab londonPosts: 5Member
    No Tau? :(
  • HatefullHatefull Posts: 774Member Uncommon
    Its been in production for years at this point.  Anyway, Looks like a good idea, hopefully it is done well and with good graphics.  It will be interesting to see how this plays out.

    If you want a new idea, go read an old book.

  • GorweGorwe Ald'RuhnPosts: 2,474Member Uncommon
    Ok, would you like my model then?

    You get Scouts, boyz(shoota+slugga), Guardians and heretics as f2p.

    Would that satisfy you?
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