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Ressurection of Richard's Garriott Tabula Rasa

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  • KyleranKyleran Paradise City, FLMember Posts: 22,792 Epic
    Originally posted by TilenFirman
    It was their dirty tricks that lead to such sad ending of the game.  Perhapsh they didnt forget 28 mil $ - thats for sure.  But what would it cost them if , they put it back F2P and see the effect ?  It it brings income and there is no outcome ( only servers maintaing for starters ) thats pure profit.  Any idiot would see math in this. But the problem by NC is their pride , arrogance and foolishness.

    Perhaps if you read some of the commentary in this old thread you'd get a better understanding of the many challenges this title faced (in the opinion of some of the players) and then see why if only a fraction of them are true why NCSoft might not be so eager to resurrect this title, even as a F2P.

    http://www.mmorpg.com/discussion2.cfm/thread/227896/What-was-so-bad-about-this-game.html

    I think the short answer is, this game still needs much more work and just isn't up to the standards they as a company wish games associated with their name to provide.

    It isn't always a question of making "some money," as you stated, pride and ownership do play a part and this title is not one they are proud of in terms of how it all turned out.

    So good luck with the petition, but not likely to happen. 

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  • YaevinduskYaevindusk Ul''dah, CAMember Posts: 1,746 Uncommon
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    I personally have the collector's edition of this game.  The paper based "security card" is still sitting on my desk of miscellaneous gaming items and I'm looking at it right now.  While I wouldn't consider myself qualified to rate it, I definitely wouldn't rate it within my top 25 MMO games.  This is probably because I don't like shooter games, and the fact I only leveled and unlocked powers through exploration without partaking in any of the dungeons.  Eventually I quit the game without paying monthly for it, as it just wasn't impressive to me at all.

     

    But that's okay, that's one person's experience and opinion.  It's not like I'm claiming it's the worst thing in the world, but it's okay for me to say I didn't like it on a post regarding it.  You're welcome to what you want to say as well, of course.  But I do have certain expectations of maturity when it comes to thread creators, and outright condemning people for disagreeing with you and claiming they never played a game because of this is not something that meets this qualification in my eyes.

     

    We all can tend to get passionate about the games we enjoyed at times, and say things perhaps we shouldn't.  But still we must remember the above in whole and try to apply it each time we create posts of our very own.  In closing, I would support the reopening of a closed MMO so that those who enjoyed it can do so again.  It would be nice to see happen if it could maintain itself.

  • spookydomspookydom BristolMember Posts: 1,782 Uncommon
    Signed. 719 now :)

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  • JaknifeJaknife Bexhill-On-SeaMember Posts: 51

    Still won't happen though.

    Been going since 18th May, and still only got 719 signatures on it.

    Until there is a huge amount on there, nothing will happen.

    It's been 20 days already, and got less than 1k.

    And that is with now 4 threads on here, trying to get names on there.

     

  • mrrshann618mrrshann618 Waseca, MNMember Posts: 278 Uncommon

    I only just heard about it a while ago. I followed Infinite Rasa and somehow this slipped under my radar. Now that it is being posted about, and it is getting face time I've noticed my 206 from like 3 days ago has one up tremendously.

     

    On a side note. I did not use xfire, chances are you are not gonna find me on any of those lists and I would love to see this back.

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  • MMOman101MMOman101 Member Posts: 1,372 Uncommon
    This is a game I wanted to try and never did. Since I missed out on trying it I have made it a point to try any MMO that I think might be interesting. They close to quick sometimes.
  • huskie77huskie77 Nowhere, NEMember Posts: 354

    I played and loved the game despite it's problems. I signed the petition because I dream of it returning(even though the entire game is dated, gameplay, systems, graphics, etc). I know there is ZERO chance of this coming back but I support the efforts to keep it's memory alive. I also think it would be a miracle if this petition garnered even 10k signatures. It might have been a mistake to make the goal 100k, but in the end it doesn't matter. There are legal injunctions in place against the game assets. The code may actually be lost and finally, it wouldn't be profitable. The market is already over saturated with MMORPG's and especially SCI-Fi ones.

     

    And finally, you can't tell people not to express their negative opinions in this thread. You do not own this thread. The only control you have is the power over the original post(lock thread, edit your words, etc). The thread belongs to MMORPG and is policed by it's moderators. Furthermore, by definition, a forum is "a medium (as a newspaper or online service) of open discussion or expression of ideas"(Merriam-Webster). If you want to control the flow of discussion you need to create your own website or forum and host this conversation there.

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  • ClawhammerClawhammer ArosMember Posts: 16

    Petitioin count as of Wed. 12. June 2013 CET: 12:20. Signed -->>  1146

     

  • BrucyBonusBrucyBonus londonMember Posts: 220
    I enjoyed this game at the time and was surprised when it was prematurely shut down; but I don't know if I would go back to it now; there are just better alternatives out there.  
  • ClawhammerClawhammer ArosMember Posts: 16
    Originally posted by BrucyBonus
    I enjoyed this game at the time and was surprised when it was prematurely shut down; but I don't know if I would go back to it now; there are just better alternatives out there.  

    LOL what alternatives are there ???

     

    go the trekkie way ?? 

    all i have seen is nothing to compare the feeling that you are a human survivor going to be a soldier with Eloh super powers.

     

    and stil the graphics are still great.

     

     

     

  • BetaguyBetaguy Halifax, NSMember Posts: 2,588 Uncommon
    I pray this gets enough.  I would love to play again.  The PvP was fun and the game had many cool puzzles and challenges.  I could also log on and out with little time spent and feel like I made progress or accomplishments.  I can't wait and will be praying this flys. Still got my Collectors Edition too.

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  • Sk1ppeRSk1ppeR PlovdivMember Posts: 511
    Made a personal server myself just to check the game few years back. I dig :) Got lazy and deleted the sources so this time I'm supporting the petition ^_^ 
  • BetaguyBetaguy Halifax, NSMember Posts: 2,588 Uncommon
    Originally posted by huskie77
    I played and loved the game despite it's problems. I signed the petition because I dream of it returning(even though the entire game is dated, gameplay, systems, graphics, etc). I know there is ZERO chance of this coming back but I support the efforts to keep it's memory alive. I also think it would be a miracle if this petition garnered even 10k signatures. It might have been a mistake to make the goal 100k, but in the end it doesn't matter. There are legal injunctions in place against the game assets. The code may actually be lost and finally, it wouldn't be profitable. The market is already over saturated with MMORPG's and especially SCI-Fi ones.   And finally, you can't tell people not to express their negative opinions in this thread. You do not own this thread. The only control you have is the power over the original post(lock thread, edit your words, etc). The thread belongs to MMORPG and is policed by it's moderators. Furthermore, by definition, a forum is "a medium (as a newspaper or online service) of open discussion or expression of ideas"(Merriam-Webster). If you want to control the flow of discussion you need to create your own website or forum and host this conversation there.

     That is crazy talk, dated? It has more and cooler features than half the crap released in the last year.

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  • Sk1ppeRSk1ppeR PlovdivMember Posts: 511

    https://github.com/InfiniteRasa 

     

    ^_^ - this is not my source though. I take no credit in making this :U 

  • ClawhammerClawhammer ArosMember Posts: 16

    Now the count is 1200, Keep the signings flowing In.

     

    Great to see players still havent forgotten this great game, s we need MORE. Still though tell all you know to sign up this petition, i have done it.

     

     

  • TheScavengerTheScavenger Matrix, NYMember Posts: 1,054 Uncommon

    I loved Tabula Rasa. It was way more dynamic than any other supposed dynamic MMO that has since been released.

     

    The AI actually had...AI...the only MMO that actually had AI

     

    The AI would take over towns, players would have to fight them back. If they failed, they'd have to retake the town. It wouldn't despawn or anything stupid. It was sorta zerg-like if I recall, but the AI would zerg as well...so that balanced it out.

     

    The AI would fly in from ships, and not jump out by the hundreds out of a tiny car or house.

     

    Far better than any other MMO that has been released recently (at least ones that focus on PvE), and WAY more dynamic as mentioned. The supposed dynamic MMOs are just on a timer, that people set and then all gather up at whatever boss they are fighting.

     

    Plus the best AI of any MMO.


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  • BroomyBroomy New York, NYMember Posts: 484 Uncommon

    TR definitely had its moments that made me stop and just gape at what I was seeing, in particular the game AI.  Brilliant.  I remember trying to sneak up on a strider, I was well out of range.  Its eye swinging around and seeing me, and then it started to backtrack and chase me.  Only Ryzom had such intelligent AI implemented in its mob, TR was similar. 

     

    But that being said, lets remember, the game had no ENDGAME to speak of.  The dungeons were generic crapola, and the itemization was terrible.  But...if it did come back F2P, with a cool store for cosmetic items and vehicles Id check it out for old times sake.  That game had some amazing concepts.  And the best soundtrack!  :)

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  • MagnetiaMagnetia SydneyMember Posts: 1,012 Uncommon
    Yeah...no.

    Play for fun. Play to win. Play for perfection. Play with friends. Play in another world. Why do you play?

  • JacobinJacobin Toronto, ONMember Posts: 805 Uncommon

    /signed

     

    TR was one of the early games with Dynamic events, and TBH they were a lot cooler than most modern games including GW2. It did an amazing job of actually making a zone feel like a real war. The dungeon instances were actually pretty cool as well.

     

    That said it still had massive negatives:

    - Ultra linear

    - Very few class skills

    - Very grindy

    - 0 endgame

  • SpiiderSpiider BinzMember Posts: 564 Uncommon

    If this was such a great fame why did it shut down?

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  • ClawhammerClawhammer ArosMember Posts: 16
    Originally posted by Spiider
    If this was such a great fame why did it shut down?

    Well there is a lot of indications.

     

    1. The crisis

    2. Not enough subs ( TR did not make red figures in the account books !! )

    3. They sacked Richard Garriott when he was in space quarantine, and he won the court trial and got 24million $, they apealed and he won the secound time and was gived further 4 million $.

    4.. ncsoft still had Dungen Runner online for further 2 years after TR was shut down and it was a F2P game ?

    5. some say that Guild Wars developer arenanet had so many shares that they obstruckted TR, and RG so they where the only us based at that time development team. ????

     

    Either way or in my term, I dont rive a shit. ncsoft let other games keep up despite they where not giving any revenue at all, and TR did.

    ALL I CARE ABOUT IS GETTING TR BACK end of story.

     

    TR IS FOREVER BABY.

     

     

     

     

     

     

     

     

  • ClawhammerClawhammer ArosMember Posts: 16
    Originally posted by Nihilist
    /signed That said it still had massive negatives: - Very grindy - 0 endgame

    Hmm

     

    very grindy ??? funny you have said that, i still can remember a french guy not doing any missions at all he just went on and shot mobs.

     

    Here you can see it : http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4p5_NFQinNc

    well its because you do not know that they actually had plans for exansions for TR. there are a mothership orbiting all 3 planets we played on right ?

    goal 1 free the planet, then take out the mothership.

    If you dont remember that the story starts up telling you that the BANE have enslaves and tanken countless planets, so you can count on that endgame was not the 50 levels that we had.

    Do you remember the EPIC banes around what was the highest level they had ?

  • ClawhammerClawhammer ArosMember Posts: 16

    Now the count is u at over 1300..

     

    to all THANKS, keep up the signing flow, and keep up telling everyone about the Petition.....

     

     

     

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